Snap On is cheating us?

[Skin]

Go look at a new Hazet ratchet.

my ratchets are new, just got them a few months ago. you're the one with the cold war era stuff maybe you should buy something more recent. .

Who cares about what some random person from snap-on "taiwan branch" said? Snap-On is US based, people have taken factory tours and seen the parts being manufactured and assembled, USA is coming back to the ratchets, the packaging has always listed the COO, its USA. End of discussion. Now i dont know why you're hell bent on spreading mis-information but if it makes you feel any better snap-on has a very large amount of taiwan sourced products, but its in their blue-point line.

 

[Alfajuj]

I stand corrected.
I just stumbled across this thread while looking at google images of Hazet ratchets:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63841
It gives a plausible explanation why the COO is missing from the blue handled 916SP ratchet.

Now if we just had a plausible explanation why my Snap-On F80 (year 2011 production) is missing its COO.
I'll be very releived when it reappears.

 

[johnachak]

If you are really that concerned, Why not get on Snapons' site, contact them and ask? I would be kind of interested in the answer. Not that much though, I am pretty much set on tools and I am leaning towards Armstrong / Wright stuff now. Better price point for USA quality in my opinion.

 

[Skin]

If you are really that concerned, Why not get on Snapons' site, contact them and ask?

People have, many times, and posted the answers, many times, our two resident snap-on dealers have also posted pictures of the retail packaging of ratchets and sets stating quite plainly that contents are of USA manufacture. These silly threads just never stop coming though.

 

[lennoxlennox]

People have, many times, and posted the answers, many times, our two resident snap-on dealers have also posted pictures of the retail packaging of ratchets and sets stating quite plainly that contents are of USA manufacture. These silly threads just never stop coming though.

yup, it's like Elvis sightings and 911 conspiracy theories

doesn't require 1 stitch of supporting evidence

 

[William Payne]

You could go on a tour of a USA snap-on plant and see the stuff being made and see the american workers and these thread would still show up.

I mean damn I have met people who think everything comes from some big super factory and they just change the names for all the different brands.

I would like to know the mental reasoning behind this almost paranoia like viewpoints on this topic.

I mean snap-ons country of origin debate is as big a conspiracy as the moon landing, I mean you could move hubble and have it take a photo of the apollo landing site and prove we landed there and people would still say the photos were faked and that its all a lie. The same goes for these threads.

I mean lets face it no matter what snap-on does people will just say its all a big fake front to hide some secret asian factory or something.

The fact is some people edon't like snap-on if its not the price that people argue about it is where the tools are made.

Personally my snap-on has usa on it the tools are good and I will continue to use them.

 

[Boost Creep]

I mean damn I have met people who think everything comes from some big super factory and they just change the names for all the different brands.

i actually work for a place that does exactally that. not saying thats the case here by any means. just there are places that are like that. we produce things where it will all be exactally the same product, run at the same time, with the only difference being the labels put on it.

 

[Monte]

There's a member who is an industry insider in Taichung who used to work at Hi-Five Products Developing Company and he specifically told me that the Hazet ratcheting combination wrenches were made by Lea Way.

ratcheting wrenches are a different topic

 

[V70R]

What's with all the hostility? I really don't appreciate being called a "troll". I love Snap-On and I love Hazet.

• There's a member who is an industry insider in Taichung who used to work at Hi-Five Products Developing Company and he specifically told me that the Hazet ratcheting combination wrenches were made by Lea Way
  
  • I personally contacted the Snap-On Taiwan Branch and asked them If any Snap-on components including ratchet internals were made in Taiwan and they said yes.
  • At my work, one of our OEM clients is Virax France, which is a sister company to Facom. One of the managers had just come over to Virax from Facom. In our meetings I had plenty of opportunity to ask him about Facom. He told me that most Facom tools are now made in Taiwan.

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  Snap-on would not would risk COO fines if in fact this was true. For all the general assumptions that are said around here, I am glad there is an "ignore user" feature.

 

[CWP1616L]

I think SNAPON has ceased to be a honest manufacturer. I've noticed that most tools do not say USA like before. Why?

The answer to that is because Snap-on needs to market their products to countries all over the world, not just the United States. About 10 years ago, the Unites States was a very unpopular country is the eyes of other people around the world; this was having a negative impact on Snap-on's business, so the decision was made to drop the USA stamp from the tools. The tools however at the time were being made at the Elisabethton Tennessee factory and still are today.

 

[t100]

The answer to that is because Snap-on needs to market their products to countries all over the world, not just the United States. About 10 years ago, the Unites States was a very unpopular country is the eyes of other people around the world; this was having a negative impact on Snap-on's business, so the decision was made to drop the USA stamp from the tools. The tools however at the time were being made at the Elisabethton Tennessee factory and still are today.

that, is just lame.

many many companies have been selling products in different countries for hundred of years, it's not something Snap On just invented.

put "USA" on products targeting the U.S. market and don't put it on there for whatever the market is for, just that simple. it didn't cost Snap ON a dime to keep the USA marking on these ratchets because they've already made the tooling.

 

[CWP1616L]

that, is just lame.

You gotta better explanation?

 

[t100]

You gotta better explanation?

did you missed the third paragraph?

keep the USA on the ratchets being sold to the markets which are "American Friendly", nothing needs to be changed. Snap ON already had the toolings.

for these ratchets being sold to the enemies of America, sell them these without "USA" marking.

is it hard to understand?

further more, let me ask you this, how do ratchets work? well, they work with sockets to turn nuts 'n bolts. without sockets, ratchet is pretty much a mule **** useless, right?

but why all Snap On sockets still have "USA" on them?

 

[CWP1616L]

did you missed the third paragraph?

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Why should they stop production to change the tooling around just to put the USA stamp on ratchets sold in the USA? Every time they stop and make adjustments to the tooling, that costs them money. They market their tools all over the world, why should they cater to the U.S. market?

 

[purplezr2]

that, is just lame.

many many companies have been selling products in different countries for hundred of years, it's not something Snap On just invented.

put "USA" on products targeting the U.S. market and don't put it on there for whatever the market is for, just that simple. it didn't cost Snap ON a dime to keep the USA marking on these ratchets because they've already made the tooling.

This is not uncommon. I know for a fact that several companies I have worked for removed the USA stickers from their products due to selling global. Some only mark US bound products with made in the USA. As for tooling who knows maybe they save time, or have less defects due to not stamping USA on the ratchets.

 

[t100]

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? ......why should they cater to the U.S. market?

wow.....really?

Snap On has both with and without USA stamping toolings.

they worn out, they don't last forever, they need to be replaced and adjusted on regular bases.

again, why didn't remove the USA stamping on the sockets?

btw, according to Chadster, the corporate management who in charge of making the fucked up decisions were fired.

 

[CWP1616L]

again, why didn't remove the USA stamping on the sockets?

I'm guessing because the stamp on the sockets is nowhere near as noticeable as the larger USA stamp on the F80 ratchet.

 

[Skin]

I'm guessing because the stamp on the sockets is nowhere near as noticeable as the larger USA stamp on the F80 ratchet.

If i remember correctly the USA on dual 80s was moved from the head to the handle so it was pretty discrete to begin with.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

let me get this straight so I understand. in order for a tool to say USA on it the entire tool needs to be made in the USA? 100% of the raw materials needs to be from the US and the entire tool needs to be machined and assembled in the USA?

 

[chadster1]

btw, according to Chadster, the corporate management who in charge of making the fucked up decisions were fired.

Really? I said that? Can you find the post where I said that?

How many more of your posts contain statements that are just completely made up like this one.

Next time you you want to quote me, use the quote function of this forum instead of making **** up.

 

[4x4gearhead]

Im surprised to see this thread resurface months later, lets get off it boys, this **** is trivial.

 

[t100]

Really? I said that? Can you find the post where I said that?

How many more of your posts contain statements that are just completely made up like this one.

Next time you you want to quote me, use the quote function of this forum instead of making **** up.

ooops, sorry I will try to find the quote, probably by someone else.