Snap On quick release

[SC-AW11]

Hey guys, I've always preferred quick release button on my ratchets. seems like it just makes things easier. A long time ago I had one without a Q/R and I had a hard time getting just a regular socket off the ratchet because the ratchet and I were oily and slippery. (with an extension on It seems like u can just pull the extension/socket off easy, but have a hard time when only a short socket is on) Couldn't get it off, used a flat blade screwdriver.

Well I just got my first Snap On ratchets, f80 and fx80. No quick release. After a week or 2 of using them, I have finally encountered the same problem. Oily/ slippery and couldn't get the socket off fast or easy. crasftman socket so instead of risking marring anything up with a flat blade I jus grabbed the socket with needle nose.

Do you guys that prefer non Q/R (95% of snap on users lol) encounter the same problem? Whats your solution!? Kinda thinking of trying a Q/R Snap On

Thanks guys! I appreciate the help

 

[TimDaToolMan]

I've always wondered if that snap-on literally meant that. Their sockets "snap-on" to the ratchet, and are a PAIN to remove. I used them in HS and hated them. Often I had to use pliers to remove them, and I'm no weakling.

 

[Subyroo651]

I think most either use the screwdriver trick or have a QR ratchet in their box.
I have a mix of both but mostly Non-QR. I have two of the Snap-On quick releases and I love them. Most times than not, you wont be that oily that you cant get the sockets off. Since I have both kinds, I just vary them depending on the job.

 

[redline380]

I've always wondered if that snap-on literally meant that. Their sockets "snap-on" to the ratchet, and are a PAIN to remove. I used them in HS and hated them. Often I had to use pliers to remove them, and I'm no weakling.

um, yeah actually. thats how they came up with the name.

some manufacturers, like mac, have knurled sockets which way help. another thing that helps is keeping a rag in your back pocket and using that to get a better grip. in time though, the ratchet will wear and allow sockets to be pulled off easier

 

[DodgeMech]

i use impact sockets 99% of the time, and they will just pull right off a "snap on" snapon ratchet

 

[refried]

I usually use deep sockets because they're easier to take off.

 

[SC-AW11]

Haha ya, like someone mentioned thats how they got their name. sockets and some sort of handle (breaker bar or maybe a ratchet, Im sure someone knows) were their first tools.

Have both kinds, good idea. QR for the oily jobs, I think I need one now lol.

Knurled sockets hmm that would seem to help. I love my 2 Snap On knurled extensions. O very nice! Im in mechanic school and I came up with the idea to make a habit of always having a rag in my back pocket. Even when I don't necessarily need it, just so I can get used to it being there, and used to grabbing if need be. Sometimes I dont think I need it and something pops up where I do so I get happy that I had it lol. I can't remember if I used the rag between the socket and needle nose. If I did, I shuda tried pulling it with jus the rag and my fingers lol. Hmm the wear theory sounds pretty good, I look forward to that.

Impacts, hmm very nice. I was kinda thinking the same thing, if different sockets pulled off easier. (example I was thinking was I wondered if Snap On chromes would pull off easier than my Craftsman chromes, but I have no idea lol)

 

[SC-AW11]

deeps, hmm. Ya I kinda thought they would be. My question was more so directed towards short regular sockets. they seem to be the PITA's lol. for the time being I guess I shud try using deeps more lol ^_^

 

[CWP1616L]

Well I just got my first Snap On ratchets, f80 and fx80. No quick release.

Snap-on has some 3/8 drive ratchets available in quick release. They the FHR80, FHRLF80, FR80, and FRLF80.

 

[SC-AW11]

Ya I know lol, But no one seems to have them so I kinda dismissed the problem I had with a different ratchet, and thought Snap On must be doing something different if everyone prefers non-QR. Do you have any QR?

 

[Subyroo651]

(example I was thinking was I wondered if Snap On chromes would pull off easier than my Craftsman chromes, but I have no idea lol)

IMO I have found this to be true. My older Craftsman sockets have double detents that make putting on and removing even harder. The Snap on Chromes have more of a dimple and not a full notch like the Cman's

 

[CWP1616L]

Ya I know lol, But no one seems to have them so I kinda dismissed the problem I had with a different ratchet, and thought Snap On must be doing something different if everyone prefers non-QR. Do you have any QR?

No one seems to have them? You can order them online and they'll be on your front porch in about 3 days.

 

[SC-AW11]

IMO I have found this to be true. My older Craftsman sockets have double detents that make putting on and removing even harder. The Snap on Chromes have more of a dimple and not a full notch like the Cman's

Oh really? Your comment is gold! I noticed the detents on the Cmans looked a bit tricky and wondered if Snap On were better. Now I now! Now I want/need S-O sockets even more lol. Really tho as much as I love S-O, I should own their first tool they ever made lol

No one seems to have them? You can order them online and they'll be on your front porch in about 3 days.

Idk whats up your ****. I sensed a bit of tude in your first comment, you made it seem like I don't know anything, but I chalked it up to me jus usually taking things the wrong way. I played it nice and even asked you nicely if you had any. You didn't answer my question, you jus gave a smartass reply. Go look in the show your toolbox and ratchet threads and tell me how many QR S-O you see. not very many compared to non-QR, only a handful. I know I can order them no problem and indeed have it in about 3 days. Done it before and just did it a couple days ago. My order just shipped today actually. A few things including an SDDD41 and a PWCS7CF

 

[SKAutomotive]

Never have this problem and all my ratchets are non-quick-release. I turn wrenches for 10+ hours a day, 5 days a week. I don't understand how you guys get so oily on your hands and tools. Rags and nitrile gloves are your friend.

 

[SC-AW11]

Well I was dissembling an old school pushrod v8. I can't remember exactly how my hands and tool got all oily but they did lol. Your hands dont get slippery dealing with greasy parts or doing oil changes? I have rags and Snap On gloves. I dont think I was wearing my gloves cus I knew I was gonna get oily. I should try nirtile gloves! Thanks man!

 

[SKAutomotive]

Well I was dissembling an old school pushrod v8. I can't remember exactly how my hands and tool got all oily but they did lol. Your hands dont get slippery dealing with greasy parts or doing oil changes? Ah! I have rags and Snap On gloves. I dont think I was wearing my gloves cus I knew I was gonna get oily. I should try nirtile gloves! Thanks man!

I just swap gloves when they get too dirty. As for oil changes, no, don't get oil on my hands, or tools. I crack the plug with the tool then spin it off quick and let it fall right into the drain bucket never actually touching the oil.

I wipe oil off my gloves and or hands immediately to maximize my work efficiency.

 

[CWP1616L]

Idk whats up your ****. I sensed a bit of tude in your first comment, you made it seem like I don't know anything, but I chalked it up to me jus usually taking things the wrong way. I played it nice and even asked you nicely if you had any. You didn't answer my question, you jus gave a smartass reply. Go look in the show your toolbox and ratchet threads and tell me how many QR S-O you see. not very many compared to non-QR, only a handful. I know I can order them no problem and indeed have it in about 3 days. Done it before and just did it a couple days ago. My order just shipped today actually. A few things including an SDDD41 and a PWCS7CF

I don't know how you perceived my posts as being smart-assed, but if you did, I'm sorry about that. To answer your question: no I don't have any quick release ratchets; but that shouldn't matter, what's important is what features that YOU need on your ratchets...

 

[ChevyEFI]

Decades of SK round head ratchet use.

No complaints adding some SO round head ratchets to the mix.

I've used some QR stuff too and don't care to go with them over the spring load ball retention.

 

[jmm]

I noticed the detents on the Cmans looked a bit tricky and wondered if Snap On were better. Now I now! Now I want/need S-O sockets even more lol. Really tho as much as I love S-O, I should own their first tool they ever made lol

Most of my sockets at work are Snap On. I have a little set of 3/8 Craftsman Industrial hex bit sockets that I use daily though, and I'll tell you they are a LOT harder to pull off. Snap On rat + Snap On socket = perfect fit: no play, not loose, not difficult to remove. On the other hand, put a Craftsman on and it gets tricky. If my hands are greasy/sweaty it's not uncommon for me to resort a rag or impromptu prying to get the damn things off. If I'm in the middle of a project with lots of socket changes it can be a headache, but I deal with it -- those Craftsman sockets are very nice.

 

[KEH]

It's not just Snap on sockets that are hard to remove. I have 1/2 Proto, well used, that dosen't release sockets easily. Don't notice as much trouble with SK or Wright. Oddly enough, the 3/8 drive Protos are easy to remove.

Anyway, I have been a fan of pushbutton releases since Craftsman came out with them in the middle 60s. I recently purchased a new SO 1/2 drive pushbutton ratchet and really like it. I don't think SO is encouraging the sale of pushbutton Ratchets.

KEH

 

[SC-AW11]

SK - O ok nice. But I didnt have nitrile's on so I couldn't jus swap my hands lol. washing them wouldn't have done much either, ratchet and socket were pretty oily. When you say let it fall in the drain bucket never actually touching the oil, you mean you spin the plug off with your hand, and then the oil goes in bucket while holding the plug so nothing touches oil? or you let the plug fall in too? I really like and respect how you say you wipe off immediately to maximize inefficiency. Thank you!

CW - Alright cool. Like I said sometimes I take things the wrong way. hard to tell demeanor or tone through a computer lol. Just made me feel like I was clueless when I take pride in the fact that I'm not lol. Like my buddy at school asked what tools I got and I started shooting out part numbers and he goes "speak english!" haha So I apologize as well. Yaa, I tend to ask people with more experience or knowledge than I, what tools or features they like or prefer. But I also got to remember that w/e Im asking about, is for me and me only. Get what I like, want, or need. Features that I feel are most important. Thank you!

jmm - "Snap On rat + Snap On socket = perfect fit: no play, not loose, not difficult to remove. On the other hand, put a Craftsman on and it gets tricky." That is gold sir! I like how I thought the same without even touching a S-O socket. I just felt like it should be easier on and off than it is. Thank you!

 

[SKAutomotive]

I spin it quick with one finger and just let it fall into the bucket.

 

[SC-AW11]

O so you do let the plug fall in? You don't get oily fishing for it in the drain bucket? or you have some sort of strainer you pour into? Thank you man!

 

[SKAutomotive]

O so you do let the plug fall in? You don't get oily fishing for it in the drain bucket? or you have some sort of strainer you pour into? Thank you man!

The bucket has it's own strainer.

 

[SC-AW11]

hmm very nice. I need one of those lol. If you want to provide a link to something like the one you have I would appreciate it!

 

[SKAutomotive]

Here is the exact one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002SR7TM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Subyroo651]

A Pickup magnet tool fishes the bolt out of a normal cheap drain pan with no fuss too

 

[SC-AW11]

Nice! Thank You! unfortunately I dont have a lift at home nor am I at a shop yet, so I have to use the smaller round black pans for now. A little oily but not too bad. I try to push in the plug as I spin it out so when its about 1/2 or 1/4 from coming off it wont start dripping. then spin it all the way still pushing a little bit to seal, then I pull it away fast and hope to not get oily lol. My trick that I've developed lol. Works pretty decent lol. Now I need a strained pan like you, when I can use it, and a trick for oil filters lol. I always seem to get dirty from those. Thank you man!

 

[SC-AW11]

A Pickup magnet tool fishes the bolt out of a normal cheap drain pan with no fuss too

Ya thats a good idea too! simple and I have a few lying around. Just got a green Snap On but id use my chrome or orange one from autozone lol. Thanks man! I love little simple tricks like that and the strainer. I think my "trick" is pretty decent too, jus a bit slower.

 

[SKAutomotive]

Depends on the oil filter location, but I usually can get those off with very little if any oil on me.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054WI7CW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[SC-AW11]

Ya I was thinking it was jus cus mine is at a 90 degree angle to the block so its impossible for it not to leak down. But I jus did a buddies camry, his filter was vertical. I thought perfect but it still spilled over, all over my hands. Have you ever timed yourself doing an oil change? flat rate is .3 so I figured I need to be a little under 20 minutes. I went pretty fast, even swapping filters I had to wait for oil to finish draining. filling up took a bit too cus I start it up with about 3 1/2 qts in to circulate it and into the filter, then finish topping off. First time I was ever timed and i did it in 22 minutes and 30 something seconds

and I like that tool! what, you crack it loose with a wrench and then use that? looks like it has a hex shape V to turn the bolt?

 

[SKAutomotive]

Yes, crack it with a ratchet and then put the tool on, it is a hex shaped V.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A59LC8K/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[SKAutomotive]

For vertical filters I use this:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item..._ID=648943&group_ID=675601&store=&dir=catalog

I get it to just start loosening and then give it a quick finger spin and let it just drip out into the bucket. After a few times you get a feel for it and never get dirty again.

I can do a LOF and rotate in 12 minutes.

 

[SC-AW11]

Very nice. I jus read someones review and ya they say they start with a ratchet and then finish off with that tool. Very nice I want one!

Form a funnel? lol

 

[DodgeMech]

Impacts, hmm very nice. I was kinda thinking the same thing, if different sockets pulled off easier. (example I was thinking was I wondered if Snap On chromes would pull off easier than my Craftsman chromes, but I have no idea lol)

my theory on that is the black coating on the impact sockets doesn't look as slippery when oily as the chrome does, so it isn't as slippery...haha

For vertical filters I use this:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item..._ID=648943&group_ID=675601&store=&dir=catalog

I get it to just start loosening and then give it a quick finger spin and let it just drip out into the bucket. After a few times you get a feel for it and never get dirty again.

I can do a LOF and rotate in 12 minutes.

on a 3/4 ton diesel pickup or a chevy cobalt?

 

[SKAutomotive]

my theory on that is the black coating on the impact sockets doesn't look as slippery when oily as the chrome does, so it isn't as slippery...haha



on a 3/4 ton diesel pickup or a chevy cobalt?

What does it matter? I have never seen a filter on a car or light truck that has a filter that tool cannot grab a hold of.

 

[SC-AW11]

For vertical filters I use this:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item..._ID=648943&group_ID=675601&store=&dir=catalog

I get it to just start loosening and then give it a quick finger spin and let it just drip out into the bucket. After a few times you get a feel for it and never get dirty again.

I can do a LOF and rotate in 12 minutes.

I just got that! I used it finally on that camry and I loved it. worked perfect. so jus let it drain a little before I remove? Ok cool, I look forward to acquiring that feel for it.

LOF? oil change and rotate in 12 minutes, you're insane haha. You're a machine lol how the hell? theres some things that are just impossible to speed up like the draining and filling right? I guess you got filling down. Do you put X amount in and then start it up to circulate, then top up? or jus all in at once?

 

[SC-AW11]

What does it matter? I have never seen a filter on a car or light truck that has a filter that tool cannot grab a hold of.

Glooorious Looks like I will love it even more every time I use it!

 

[SKAutomotive]

I just got that! I used it finally on that camry and I loved it. worked perfect. so jus let it drain a little before I remove? Ok cool, I look forward to acquiring that feel for it.

LOF? oil change and rotate in 12 minutes, you're insane haha. You're a machine lol how the hell? theres some things that are just impossible to speed up like the draining and filling right? I guess you got filling down. Do you put X amount in and then start it up to circulate, then top up? or jus all in at once?

Car goes into the air. I pull the drain plug and loosen the filter and let it drain down, positioning the drain bucket in place so that it can capture both. I then fill each tire to the proper pressures, then zip off the lug nuts, take one of the front wheels and move it back on the same side and put it on the ground. Then I grab the opposing rear tire and rotate it up to where I just took the tire, then follow my pattern until all tires are rotated. At each tire I finger start the nuts after I rotate it. Then I grab my torque stick and zap all the tires down. Grab my now waiting filter and crush gasket from the parts counter and put it on my work cart. Take the old filter down and any remaining oil that comes out I use to lubricate the tip of my finger and onto the new filter, wipe the filter housing down quick and spin the new one on. Put the plug and new gasket back in and snug it down and then drop the car. I dial in how much oil I need from the shop overhead system and pump it in and then start the engine, turn it off, check the level and done.

While I wait on answers from any recommendations I made, I get my next car in, but it is very rare for me to be doing oil changes anymore, that goes to the new kid, the rest of us only pick up the slack when he gets hammered.

 

[SC-AW11]

Very Nice man, I really appreciate you giving me a step by step. I see a couple things that could save me some time. I guess I shud try putting in as much oil as possible in the fill. Like if it says capacity is 4 1/8 Ill try to put 4 in rather than jus 3 or 3 1/2. or shud I try for 4 1/8 with the readings on the oil bottles? I also really like your idea of using the oil dripping (from oil filter flange or oil pan?) to lubricate the new filters o ring. I crack open a new bottle for that so that could save some good time there. torque stick! I like those. When I start building my air tool collection I will for sure have those. and you mentioned a crush gasket? For the pan bolt? If so, very nice. I rarely change mine but the last oil change I did.

Ya I know oil change is pretty basic but I wanna learn how to turn a 30 minute driveway/jack change into a 15....or 12 minute shop/lift change and rotation. I shaved off 7/8 minutes my driveway/jack change so not too bad lol