Snap-on's New Cordless Ratchet Lineup

[V70R]

Just got the word today from my dealer that the Micro Lithium-Ion 14.4V Cordless Ratchets will soon be available....Here are a few pics of the brochures soon to be passed out....Really looking forward to this. The third image represents a 1:1 scale of its size, roughly 9.5'' in length. THLF72 ratchet taken next to it.

 

[silviaboy89]

nice these should compete with the Milwaukee cordless ratchets that are so popular.

 

[braol]

I didnt realize these are going to be so small, very cool. I asked my dealer about them yesterday, he had no idea what I was talking about. He said sometimes they release new items in just one part of the country and then release it to the rest of the country later.

 

[bobcatdan]

I have the short lived 12 v ratchet and use it daily. This is just a guess, but I bet a lot of guys striped the head out. I had mine rebuilt once.

 

[wannab20hatch]

The price and warranty would have to be pretty reasonable to compete with the Milwaukee.

 

[firebox40dash5]

The price and warranty would have to be pretty reasonable to compete with the Milwaukee.

While I generally dislike any "adaptable" tools, I wonder why neither of them made cordless ratchets, which seem about identical except for the heads, with interchangeable 1/4" and 3/8" heads. Seems like the ideal application to me.

I can only imagine what these are gonna cost, and I have a feeling I wouldn't want to have to buy a kit AND a bare tool. Hell, I've got plenty of M12 stuff now, and I have little interest in spending $210 to get both ratchets. Probably doesn't help that's more than I spent on both my air ratchets, which I rarely use.

 

[TheGrooveking]

Give....come to daddy....oh yes you will be mine...

TheGrooveking

 

[amlv20]

I know I saw it Those flyers Thursday two days after I just bought a Milwaukee ratchet.great.my dealer said it was going to be in the $350 range. I like my Milwaukee so far, so we'll see maybe ill hold off on buying the snap on.

 

[GSteg]

For the price, the milwaukee is hard to beat, especially since the M12 platform is so diverse. It'll be interesting to see how the SO does against it, but I suppose Snap On is not too worried about Milwaukee.

 

[Skin]

For the price, the milwaukee is hard to beat, especially since the M12 platform is so diverse. It'll be interesting to see how the SO does against it, but I suppose Snap On is not too worried about Milwaukee.

Milwaukee's cordless ratchet is nearly a foot long. That's why I was never interested in them. These Snap-Ons seem to be about 9-3/8" if the scale with the ratchet is right. If they're really that small i'll get one if I can find the right price.

 

[Marion3]

Any idea of how many ft.lbs?

 

[86k10]

Any idea of how many ft.lbs?

In another thread it was reported of 30 ft lbs and 150 manual break torque of 150 lbs on the 3/8.

EDIT: It is in the first pic on the right side.

 

[Twiggss]

While I generally dislike any "adaptable" tools, I wonder why neither of them made cordless ratchets, which seem about identical except for the heads, with interchangeable 1/4" and 3/8" heads. Seems like the ideal application to me.

I can only imagine what these are gonna cost, and I have a feeling I wouldn't want to have to buy a kit AND a bare tool. Hell, I've got plenty of M12 stuff now, and I have little interest in spending $210 to get both ratchets. Probably doesn't help that's more than I spent on both my air ratchets, which I rarely use.

Bottom line is they can get more money out of you buy buying a whole seperate tool.

 

[RCP]

Power ratchets are always so damn weak..

 

[firebox40dash5]

Bottom line is they can get more money out of you buy buying a whole seperate tool.

Hey, I was trying to not be jaded for once. Yeah, I know that plays a part.

I'd think this would be a great application for it, though, and help sell more tools. Outwardly identical, save for the drive tang. I sure can't justify to myself buying two such tools for that one tiny difference, especially when my air ratchets are much smaller to boot. I can weasel an air hose into a lot of spaces, but plastic handle and battery pack are much less flexible.

 

[MattPersman]

Battery pack seems to be too obtrusive compared to the Milwaukee that could make quite a diffrence right there

 

[sdguy55]

I'm impressed by how small it is

 

[ianguilly]

My dealer had one to show us about the upcoming line. He sold it in one day. Never got to see it , but he said when he did have it one of the techs use the 3/8 to break some lugs on an 00 Durango! Sais the tech bought it on the spot. I'll have to see this to believe that story.

 

[RCP]

No way in hell i can see it breaking lugs without doing it manually. Even then with how small it is its gonna take some muscle and probably wont like the abuse. I dont like how the batt sticks out compared to the Milwaukee but its still pretty damn small.

All that said i dont see needing a very low powered ratchet very often in my line of work. It could be useful under the dash but there isnt a lot my CT661 won't fit to with some extension/adapters. I dont know what the price point is but my guess its to high for how much it'll be worth. 30ft/lbs of working torque is next to nothing. If I'm using a power ratchet its gotta have some balls or else what is the point of a power tool

I bought my CT661 before the M12 fuels debuted and I kinda regret it. The SO is a fairly better design with a lot less power that cost quite a bit more. The M12 line is so diverse and interchange able. Between the high torque guns the heated jacket radios chargers ect ect i cant see spending more money for less options and having more batterys to go with snap on. Especially when they have less power.

Snap on has a better design though there is no doubt. Im in the process of going from air to electric and even though ive started down SO path, im struggling to maintain it with Milwaukee's lineups

 

[SGASA204A.MASTER]

At my last field group meeting, during the introduction of the new cordless ratchets, I was told; the new 14.4 Lithium ratchet battery (CTB7172) is compatable with the current line of 7.2V Lithium powered products.

 

[jfcasey]

Power ratchets are always so damn weak..

I see them as more useful to just run bolts down to snug then finish tightening them manually instead of having to spin fasteners the whole way by hand. Pretty useful for interior work and some engine work when theres no room around the motor in the car for anything else.

 

[TheGrooveking]

Even though they can't loosen a Peterbilt's lug nuts (satire intended) what I find with air/cordless tools, primarily ratchets is the time they save. Remember pennies make dollars = seconds make minutes and minutes make hours, and if you are paid by the job or the hour then seconds equals dollars.

TheGrooveking

 

[RCP]

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of it because i have yet to own one, but the main thing i wonder is; is a high priced (high quality) tool like this really negate the time it saves? How many seconds of flat rate really add up to I'll speculate a 300$ tool?

 

[RCP]

At my last field group meeting, during the introduction of the new cordless ratchets, I was told; the new 14.4 Lithium ratchet battery (CTB7172) is compatable with the current line of 7.2V Lithium powered products.

So I can use my CT661 batt in the ratchet and slim it down still? Will it have less TQ?

 

[jfcasey]

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of it because i have yet to own one, but the main thing i wonder is; is a high priced (high quality) tool like this really negate the time it saves? How many seconds of flat rate really add up to I'll speculate a 300$ tool?

The factor you are overlooking is anything that takes stress off your body is beneficial. Its the repetitive movements that destroy your body and if a tool means less wrist flicking then it could be worth it. Not saying it makes the Snap On worth it, but in general if a tool means my body might just last a little longer I'm way more likely to consider it.

 

[Skin]

No way in hell i can see it breaking lugs without doing it manually. Even then with how small it is its gonna take some muscle and probably wont like the abuse. I dont like how the batt sticks out compared to the Milwaukee but its still pretty damn small.

All that said i dont see needing a very low powered ratchet very often in my line of work. It could be useful under the dash but there isnt a lot my CT661 won't fit to with some extension/adapters. I dont know what the price point is but my guess its to high for how much it'll be worth. 30ft/lbs of working torque is next to nothing. If I'm using a power ratchet its gotta have some balls or else what is the point of a power tool

I bought my CT661 before the M12 fuels debuted and I kinda regret it. The SO is a fairly better design with a lot less power that cost quite a bit more. The M12 line is so diverse and interchange able. Between the high torque guns the heated jacket radios chargers ect ect i cant see spending more money for less options and having more batterys to go with snap on. Especially when they have less power.

Snap on has a better design though there is no doubt. Im in the process of going from air to electric and even though ive started down SO path, im struggling to maintain it with Milwaukee's lineups

I haven't used the M12 3/8" impact but when I compared the CT661 to a recently purchased 12V Makita they were pretty damn close in power. I've used my CT661 a lot since I got it some months back. Its a handy little tool. Oddly enough my favorite feature is the rocker trigger they use for Fwd/Reverse. Hardly anyone uses that anymore. I'm forever bumping those directional switches above the trigger into neutral/lock on my screw gun.

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of it because i have yet to own one, but the main thing i wonder is; is a high priced (high quality) tool like this really negate the time it saves? How many seconds of flat rate really add up to I'll speculate a 300$ tool?

First, i'd only consider the 1/4" version. Just my 2 cents. I personally wouldn't try to manually break loose anything that would be torqued beyond 50 foot pounds with a ~10" long tool. Second, consider it only if you use an air ratchet. If you own one but never find yourself using it, then you probably wont use this. As far as time, power tools, air or electric, can make a world of difference. For someone in flat rate its not really a question of if they'll get their money back in time savings, but simply how long it will take.

 

[amlv20]

iwork on diesel pick ups, mainly fords. i pretty much have to lay ontop of the grill and radiator to do work, im tired of the air hose geting caught on the bumper or grill/headlights as im trying to reach the back of the engines or lower parts of the engine bay.i always have to reach it over and losen it or pull it up if it gets caught behind the tire when i pull it up its irritating,ive tried everything from flexzilla hose to zilla whips and even hanging the hose above me.ive had the ct661 and the cts661 i use both on top of engine but still have to use air ratchet for some things. with the milwaukee i can do so much more on top and on the sides including the valve covers with out touching or fighting an air hose.also working under the dash in spaces that are already cramped trying to get to a blend door or what not then having to fight an air ratchet with hose also, the milwaukee feels so increasingly effortless to use and also makes working out side or at home without a compressor so much faster and easier.

 

[SGASA204A.MASTER]

So I can use my CT661 batt in the ratchet and slim it down still? Will it have less TQ?

Yes and Yes.

Although, when handling the the new cordless ratchets; my impressions were:
-this ratchet is very slim & light, even with the 14.4 battery.
-the ratchet head is the one used on our FAR7000 (compact)
-variable speed trigger is 'top-notch'
-ratchet is very fast (350 RPM)
-interchangeable batteries are nice.
-Also, I've been told to expect more power tools from this line.

 

[RCP]

Yes and Yes.

Although, when handling the the new cordless ratchets; my impressions were:
-this ratchet is very slim & light, even with the 14.4 battery.
-the ratchet head is the one used on our FAR7000 (compact)
-variable speed trigger is 'top-notch'
-ratchet is very fast (350 RPM)
-interchangeable batteries are nice.
-Also, I've been told to expect more power tools from this line.

Edit: can I put a14.4v batt on my CT661??

 

[blacK20]

The factor you are overlooking is anything that takes stress off your body is beneficial. Its the repetitive movements that destroy your body and if a tool means less wrist flicking then it could be worth it. Not saying it makes the Snap On worth it, but in general if a tool means my body might just last a little longer I'm way more likely to consider it.

I like your thinking!

 

[papshadalac]

Edit: can I put a14.4v batt on my CT661??

What he said...

 

[SGASA204A.MASTER]

Edit: can I put a14.4v batt on my CT661??

Yes, You can, more power and it is compatible. 14.4 battery part #CTB7172. Battery is in the system, but no price yet and not available yet, next couple of weeks I'm told.

 

[pipsters]

I use a 1/4" air ratchet at home w/ swivel sockets almost exclusively when working under the hood. With the larger bolts sometimes I have to get a 3/8" and crack the nut but most times I use the ratcheting action of the air ratchet to break stuff lose. I estimate the ft-lbs of my el cheapo but quiet 1/4" HF Earthquake air ratchet to be in the 15# range. Not strong at all, but perfect for running stuff in and out.

Here are 2 pictures, one is removing the starter and the other removing transmission bellhousing bolts. Imagine how long (look at those threads) it would take to do that by hand. I suppose you could do it with an impact too in some cases but the small 1/4" air ratchets really fit into some tight areas that an impact doesn't. Plus you can crank on them to break the nut/bolt free unlike an impact.

 

[RCP]

My snap on guy knew nothing about these. I did notice that the CT661 I bought a month or so ago is 100$ off now thought. Haha

 

[braol]

Anybody got one of these yet?

 

[Nanashi]

I got one. The battery does nothing for the 661 3/8" lithium impact and the 7.2v doesn't fit in the ratchet.

I got the 1/4" last week. IV only used it a few times but so far I love it. The size is a little big compared to my far25, buy I'm more willing to grab this because there is no hose also if this is to big I figure I probably wasn't getting the far 25 in there either this is practically the same size as the far once you attach the hose.

Anyway no more hose to get snagged on anything plus is faster to grab and it spins faster. I am loving cordless right now.

 

[ahayes09]

Not to bring back a dead thread, but I'd rather do that than open a new redundant thread. I just ordered the CT761 cordless 3/8 impact yesterday. Anyone try one of those out yet? Can't find much on them at all...hoping it's a good investment.

 

[SteveMorris]

you will not be disapointed it is very powerful to be so small

 

[Toolhorder]

I've had mine awhile and it's nice I just used it before I left just to run in some bolts on an A/C compressor on the side of the engine. I love having no cord in the way. Is it as powerful as Snappy's regular air 3/8 ratchet? No but it gets the bolt ran down fast and then I just follow up with a hand ratchet to snug the bolts. Still faster than manual ratchet alone.
Only problem I had with mine was the battery clips broke off pretty fast and then the battery would just drop out the bottom of the tool while using it. Snap On has since updated the clips and my dealer swapped out the clips no charge under warranty on my batteries and so far so good.

 

[Dust Devil]

I love my 1/4" so much I am buying a 3/8" this week.

I have been using the hell out of the CTR725A for the last couple months and it is awesome. Saves me so much time and energy and wear and tear on my body.