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Socket size overlap 1/4 - 3/8 - 1/2

flippin

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Happy New Year!!

In light of the recent thread providing us with an organizational spreadsheet (thank you) for our sockets, I would be curious to see what your thoughts are on the size ranges for each of the most common socket drives (1/4 - 3/8 - 1/2). Though I certainly fall into the category of believing too much is just enough, what do you feel is the practical range for each size taking into consideration both the torque limits of each drive size and real world experience which you might be able to share. I have noticed (myself included) that there are a lot of new faces here at GJ and we are all fascinated by the amount of collective expertise that is available to each of us. That said many of us are feverishly building our tool sets given that the GJ kool-aid has taken effect but it would be reassuring to have you identify what would be a comprehensive set and what sizes are beyond necessary especially if there is overlap. I doubt for example there would ever be a real need for a 1/4" drive 3/4" socket; where the compactness of the 1/4 drive tools are required to work on a fastener that large.

For example;

(1/4"); 5/32 - ?


Many thanks to you all in advance, I am aware that this has been discussed in the past but thought that a fresh thread to correspond with the new spreadsheet may prove useful to the freshmen of Garage Journal.
 
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Mr Ratchet

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See Hansen trays and my inability not to have all the pegs full. It just depends on what is being worked on that dictates the socket size/type, drive size as well as the drive tool.
 

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It all depends on what you are doing.
My 1/4" drive set runs up to 12mm IIRC, and my 1/2" drive set starts at 10mm, so my entire 3/8" drive set overlaps with one or the other, and I'm happy with that.
 

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I somehow missed the organizational spreadsheet and think it could be very usefull. I have searched, however I never get good results with the internal search feature. Could someone possibly post a link to the spreadsheet.

Thanks

On a side note about the search feature, I often use search while logged on to GJ and do not find good results, lots of posts not really related to search, however if I use google search I find stuff linked back to GJ with the info I want. seams screwy to me!
 
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I guess after having spent some time filling out the spreadsheet provided by Joe B. it became apparent that what the "standard" size ranges are. I was just curious for example at what point do you switch to the next drive size space permitting of course. At 3/4" do you switch to 1/2" drive because the forces are now creeping towards the limits of the 3/8 drive size even though many of us may have bigger 3/8" sockets. It just seems that there is so much overlap that is redundant especially on the "low" sizes of the drive. I have a pretty comprehensive set and my 1/2" drive includes a 3/8" socket, why? I suppose that if we only had one torque wrench (1/2") this would enable us to use it on the broadest range of fasteners....

I am trying to put together the perfect mobile tool set and I am the worst for packing light. I always seem to justify the rationale/need for more stuff, always too much. I need your help to identify practical ranges. That said we are on Garage Journal, we don't need to talk crazy!! I don't want someone to recommend a big *** adjustable. I want/need to carry all three drive sizes and your wisdom will help me select the most useful sizes with the right amount of overlap. I think this will also help some of the guys who are buying their snap-on tools individually and need to be budget conscious.
 
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MN Falcon

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http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180785

Maybe talking about this awesome spreadsheet by Outlawmws in post 11 in this thread?

I used his example to redo my spreadsheet inventory lists so that I know where to fill in sockets. Much easier to read than my previous inventory and can get through it easily on my phone. I added duplicates to the list though so that I can easily see what I have available for trade.
 

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For me it all depends on now much the torque specs are for the bolt im working on. I have a torque wrench built into my elbow and wrist that will give me 3 ftlbs/inch leverage snug, and 4ftlbs/inch leverage tight. Of course, i can generate more or less force, but the internal torque wrench goes out of its accuracy range. ;) Since my 1/4 ratchets are about 5" long, that's for jobs that are 15-20 ft lbs, my 3/8 ratchets range from 5"-11", so that gives me a range of 15-44 ftlbs, and my 1/2 drive goes from 10-15" giving me 30-60 ftlbs. :)
 

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Best reason I have found for overlap is my 13mm uses.
Headbolts on my ****** are 13mm and I would not use anything less than my 1/2 drive impact socket. I have broken 2 sockets and one ratchet working on these with 3/8.
13mm 1/4 drive gets used for space considerations and some light stuff!

Bruce
 

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It depends on how long you have been reading posts on GJ. If you just found this site, a basic 3/8 socket set is all you need. After about 60 days, you will find that you need 1/4"(duh) and 1/2" and matching wrenches. After 90 days you will definately need a larger selection of wrenches in all sizes. Between 90 days and 6 months you will need to learn about brands you didn't know existed like Proto, SnapOn and Wera. You will also learn about flex heads and extra long handles and wonder how you ever did without. Then there are "hard handles", "soft handles", and "Lotsa colors" to match your "box". Eventually when you tools that you have never even used you will know that you have a pretty good handle on it.
 
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On a side note about the search feature, I often use search while logged on to GJ and do not find good results, lots of posts not really related to search, however if I use google search I find stuff linked back to GJ with the info I want. seams screwy to me!

Try this with Google.
 

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I think on here there is some truth to the fact that owning too many tools is
just not quite enough, but for me, as well the aforementioned sentence, it's
all about finesse.

My 1/4" set finishes at 14mm and my 1/2" set starts at 8mm, so my 3/8" drive
set is, for all intents and purposes, completely redundant, however it is the
set I use for probably 70% of the jobs I do on my car.

Sometimes I need to delicately nip up a 14mm fastener, so to help me not over
do it I will use my 1/4" drive, sometimes there is a 14mm fastener that I really
need to muscle to undo, or tighten so I will use my 1/2" drive to help me....

Most times though, a 14mm fastener is just right for a 3/8" drive set. It's all
about the help a certain drive size can give you to put just the right amount
of torque on a fastener.

To put it another way, you could use grenade to get rid of a spider... or you
could use the bottom of a shoe... or you could use a glass and a piece of
card and put it outside. All three will get rid of the spider... Which way feels
the right way..? Well, I guess we all figure that out for ourselves... :D
 
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