Spreading the Bonney affliction!
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The only patent I saw granted to Leavens as inventor was for a saw set. (Baker also had two saw set patents.) Maybe someone else besides them was the inventor on the patent you saw. I had some difficulty filtering by assignee and manufacturer last night on my iOS device, so I may have missed something.
The clue you gave about it having to do with selling out to Stanley might help, but I haven’t seen it yet. One thing caught my attention: he seems to have sold vises to Stanley Tool, and transitional planes to Stanley Level before they merged, so this might be double the trouble to research.
The clue you gave about it having to do with selling out to Stanley might help, but I haven’t seen it yet. One thing caught my attention: he seems to have sold vises to Stanley Tool, and transitional planes to Stanley Level before they merged, so this might be double the trouble to research.
akasrick
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Snippet from one of the people who write about Stanley tools As to attribution
Stanley began selling vises in 1911 after it purchased the Philip J. Leavens "Jersey" vise business in Vineland, New Jersey1 The Leavens vises were small, bench vises with jaw widths of 1½ inches to 3 inches. Jersey vises were more of a mechanics-style vise than a woodworker's vise.
In the late 1920s, Stanley saw a need for a small woodworker's vise that was light and portable, allowing a carpenter to carry it from job to job. The Stanley Model Shop was charged with the mission to create such a vise. Christian Bodmer, one of Stanley's mechanical engineers with many tool patents, filed a patent with the United States Patent Office on December 17, 1927, for the woodworker's vise that would become no. …
Thanks to Lugz I see where I got the a in the patent
https://patents.google.com/patent/US877695A/en
Where I read that Leavens applied that patent to include all similar, I'm at a loss. Me saying "cleared the sale to Stanley" is my reading between the lines.
akasrick
Always nice to have a shorty extension - along with some longer ones - around. And the 1/2" Bonney stuff ain't that easy to get. Good score!
Provincial
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Oooooh, liking that double ratcheting flare wrench! Can you give us close-ups of both sides?
Provincial
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I'll do that.
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Private Lugnutz
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I'm more curious about the "U-M-S". It's not a CAM-LOC licensee that I familiar with (The Kramer Fabrication Company, Swage-Lok, Snap-on, and Bonney is what I have in my notes...), and I'm trying to decipher what it would expand to. United Machinery Systems?
EDIT: Have any of you fellow CAM-LOC aficionados ever found the drive plug insert that converts a 1/2" CAM-LOC wrench into a 3/8-inch drive ratchet? I keep looking. So far, no luck.
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According to my research, Lugz, U-M-S stands for "United Motor Service" which was founded in 1917. This link might help you out some.
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hcc/2016/07/Delco-Electronics/3749839.html
And I've not seen the drive plug in the wild, only in photo's.
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Thanks, sir! I was hoping it would have a different inscription entirely - just to add to the mix!
The small one you have is the hardest of the doubles C.L. to find. Great score!
Provincial
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It was the first C.L. I have seen, and was only $3.00. The seller likes to spray everything with silver paint, which makes it look flashy. A quick swipe with a brass bottle brush cleaned the overspray out of the workings, and it works fine.
Private Lugnutz
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Sorry it was a LONG read. And the pertinent entry was buried about half way through the story.
Yeah, many of the ones I find have sticky mechanisms, and I just soak each end in Marvel Mystery Oil for a day and blow it out with air. I don't want to be poking around in there with a dental pick.
Now that yours is working freely, give it a whirl. I'm betting you'll be amazed at how nice they are for repetitive jobs, easy grip, and not rounding off soft fasteners.
Sometimes Bonney advertisements torn from Popular Mechanics, Aviation Monthly (or some such) pop up on eBay. Today, while checking out Big Chicken Barn Books & Antiques in Ellsworth ME (Mrs LS wants to see Acadia, but it’s been pouring rain), I searched through some Motor Service Magazine issues from the late 1930s to the early 1950s. The aviation/railway section is in the same spot as automotive, but there were only flying magazines from the 1980s there. Looks like Bonney advertised in most MSM issues, usually on p3. I was really thinking of buying a couple (my favorite is the fly-fisherman, which I found but didn’t photograph), but the super cool all-color sports-themed ads were only gray in this mag.
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3baygarage
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Cool ads.
Anybody know the Bonney 2550? Looks like the Craftsman Pocket Socket idea. Ran across this yesterday while emptying an old box, completely forgot about it.
Anybody know the Bonney 2550? Looks like the Craftsman Pocket Socket idea. Ran across this yesterday while emptying an old box, completely forgot about it.
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Nope. Never seen a Bonney socket like that.
The skinny font looks old though.
P.S. Here's the patent. Issued 1924.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US1554963A/en?oq=1554963
The skinny font looks old though.
P.S. Here's the patent. Issued 1924.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US1554963A/en?oq=1554963
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Private Lugnutz
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Nice, 3eeb! Can't believe you had that gem squirreled away in your enter-at-your-own-risk garage. 
3baygarage
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Yeah, I could ‘t believe it was there either. Found a few surprises in a this box that was buried behind things for years.
Cool, Bman. I don’t see anything on that other #.
Cool, Bman. I don’t see anything on that other #.
The part number 2550 doesn't ring a bell, either. Only other 25xx anything close to a socket is their 1/2" stub remover (2591) which also has a moving part, listed as early as 1947 as a 'specialty socket'. I might be out on a limb here but the 25xx sockets might all be a specialty category.
I'll have to do some more digging. Very different socket to be sure.
Private Lugnutz
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All the 25XX part numbers are special wrenches in the 1930's catalogs. The 1932 cat has a 2549 (Ford special rear main bearing adjustment wrench) and a 2552 (Miscellaneous special wire wheel spoke ****** wrench). That indicates they had assigned 2550 to something (not listed in the catalog) in their stocking system, and we know what it was from 3bay's specimen. It was either discontinued or special order and not listed in catalogs.
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Private Lugnutz
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That's a nice find, Don, and far from home!
Debcrow
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Found this early Bonney this morning at a garage sale. Reading here and on Alloy Artifacts I am a little confused (not hard to do) about the date of manufacture. It has a cast in CP (1923?), CV in a circle (later?), B in a shield on the body and B in a shield in the center Bonney on the end. Please excuse the pictures, I did not bother cleaning it up and most were taken inside (yellow tint)
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"CV" is in reference to "Chrome-Vanadium".
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3baygarage
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The part number 2550 doesn't ring a bell, either. Only other 25xx anything close to a socket is their 1/2" stub remover (2591) which also has a moving part, listed as early as 1947 as a 'specialty socket'. I might be out on a limb here but the 25xx sockets might all be a specialty category.
I'll have to do some more digging. Very different socket to be sure.
Looks like 7/8 Bman. A few more pictures.
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I know this is the BONNEY thread, but I picked up a nice little Stanley Victor screwdriver that is further evidence (if there need be any) of the common source of Stanley and Bonney screwdrivers.
Also got a P22 bumping hammer (weighed in at at 13oz; no model number stamped on it, all measurements about halfway between a P22 16oz and a P23 9oz, so I conclude the handle will make up the missing ounces).
And a 1-5/16” CV service wrench
And a D19 and a MT9 socket.
Also got a P22 bumping hammer (weighed in at at 13oz; no model number stamped on it, all measurements about halfway between a P22 16oz and a P23 9oz, so I conclude the handle will make up the missing ounces).
And a 1-5/16” CV service wrench
And a D19 and a MT9 socket.
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Cool!
Seems like those jaws would also work with square fasteners. Perhaps it's a drain plug socket? Have one in the toolbox, able to remove multiple sizes?
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Very funny. I have to remember thatYou might have to get a sticky set up for your stickers, Mike.
I did get a 2628 Hacksaw from eBay today. I still have other things ordered and they are on the way from eBay.
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r_olson_06
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Not much of a Bonney person but I picked up this fridge set from the flea. It appears to be complete minus a ratchet. Does anyone have a set list for this? It is CV generation.
Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
Not much of a Bonney person but I picked up this fridge set from the flea. It appears to be complete minus a ratchet. Does anyone have a set list for this? It is CV generation.
Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
Nice little group!
That's the thing about Bonney. There are those that like em, and those that don't. And those that don't like em can sell them to me!
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I too have fallen victim to the ebay decals. Just stuck one to my fridge set as the original was disintegrating. Coincidentally this is possibly the ratchet roys set would have had.
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Haha,Nice little group!
That's the thing about Bonney. There are those that like em, and those that don't. And those that don't like em can sell them to me!
Its not that I don't care for them just trying avoid shiney objects that will lead down to another rabbit hole. I bought it trade off or sell.
What time era is this set? 1930s?
Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061