Spreading the Bonney affliction!

[coal oven pizza]

I believe Bonney is Utica Bonney. I have tried to collect these for years. Mostly found at a local thriftstore for pocket change

 

[bonneyman]

Wow, that angle wrench set is da bomb!

 

[LesserSon]

Hey, a first post!
Welcome aboard, coal oven pizza!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Great set! I was watching that one but missed end of auction.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

Lovely set. Congrats!


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[swshawaii]

Not mine, just a heads up. Will edit or delete when all are sold.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_od...ksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=bonney&_sacat=0

 

[outofbounds]

Not mine, just a heads up. Will edit or delete when all are sold.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_od...ksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=bonney&_sacat=0

That definitely qualifies as dirt cheap!

 

[JjKk40]

Found this 3/8" stubby BonECon ZT708 ratchet on the bay! Finally I can measure the length of the spring I need and try to find a place to make custom for me. The 1/16" springs are a tad too fat and too soft for this ratchet. Anyway heres some pics...

 

[LesserSon]

Found this 3/8" stubby BonECon ZT708 ratchet on the bay!

Really nice ratchet. I was looking at it, but you must have bought it before I could add it to my watchlist!
What does the end of the handle look like? Chrome? Convex? Flat?
I didn’t find that model number in the 1960 or 1963 catalog pdfs.

BTW, it’s NOT a ZT708, which would have a B-hexagon logo. It’s a T708 (I’d prefer to believe TT708), c1963 or earlier (pat pending).From the backplate (first appearing in 1957),

I think it will have an identical mechanism (Hare’s first relevant patent was applied for Sep1957 granted Oct1960, but I think this is Hare’s second relevant patent applied for Apr1960 granted Feb1962),

but wouldn’t be shocked if it is a bit different. The B-hex/Z- tools were a continuation of the Bon-E-Con value line.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

My tt707 aa707 are both pat pending. Very smooth ratchets. Nice stubby 708.

 

[JjKk40]

Oh yes thats correct it is a T708 opposed to a ZT. My mistake. I do not have it in hand yet, should be here in a few days. I am wondering if the seller made a mistake and listed it as 3/8 instead of 1/2? My 3/8 ZT707 does not have that same heart shape divet that the pawl rides in on the back plate that the 1/2 has. His photo shows that. Ill see when it arrives. Im sure I can find a spring in another Bonney with the same mechanism. Im on the lookout for a beat up one so I can use the spring from it on my ZT707.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Just look for the c clip in the back, as some of them are sealed!

 

[JjKk40]

Yeah I've already had them apart and cleaned up. C clip comes right out. I see a lot more of the totally non serviceable ones that are sealed so I might pick one up.

 

[LesserSon]

JjKk40 - The “T” is the part of the model number that indicates 3/8dr.

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This partial V set came today. The 1x2-3/4x6-3/4” box looks like it was sat on and received a hasty red repaint decades ago. Not yet sure whether it is originally Bonney or just had some Bonney in it. The little dimples on the sidewalls of the lid seem so symmetrical and serve the function of keeping the two halves from collapsing together, I think they are original.
Contents all marked “Made in USA”: CV-marked V17 sliding Tee, VS8, VS10, younger-looking V8, V9, V10, younger-looking V12, V14.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That is a feature of sk boxes

 

[LesserSon]

Thanks, OTG.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have a few of those old bonney boxes I will check tonight if they are also like that

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I agree with OTG. All my SK, Brazil, and Carb-O-Mang midget boxes have those pressure indents. My Bonney boxes do not, and the socket divider goes all the way across. I posted a V-51 set in a baby sh*t brown crackled finish box on page 3, post #51, on this thread. Unaiu, I, and OTG also posted Bonney midget sets on the midget thread, on pages 3 (#56), 7 (#125), and 19 (#380) respectively.

 

[d42jeep]

That is a feature of sk boxes

I agree as well. Probably early war or wartime S-K. The color traces on the interior match as well
-Don

 

[JjKk40]

Got that set of wrenches in. Love them! Really sweet set. They're nice and thin, smooth, and well made! The case is pretty beat up and dry rotted so ill just keep them in the drawer for now. Did Bonney make a metric set like these?

 

[JjKk40]

Here's a few pics of that stubby ratchet I just got. I took a few of the end of the handle for you Lesserson. And I compared the pawl and back plate between the regular length 3/8 & the stubby. The stubby has the little dowl that rides in that heart shape groove, exactly like the 1/2" one i have, unlike the regular length 3/8 ratchet. It must have been a design upgrade or something? Here's the pics tho.

 

[Mikeske]

Got that set of wrenches in. Love them! Really sweet set. They're nice and thin, smooth, and well made! The case is pretty beat up and dry rotted so ill just keep them in the drawer for now. Did Bonney make a metric set like these?

I am not sure that Bonney made metric on the angle wrenches, I would think that someplace I seen them and I have to check my catalogs and see. When I bought my mechanics set in 1983 I passed on the angle wrenches as they were even then almost never used and I had never used angle wrenches when I was a vehicle mechanic in the Air Force.


EDIT. Checking the 1967, 1977, 1981, and 1986 catalogs I have stored in my computer there was no listings for the offset wrenches in metric

 

[JjKk40]

Thanks for taking a look for those metric ones Mikeske.

 

[bonneyman]

Though not listed in any of the catalogs Bonney did make angle wrenches in metric. 9 thru 19 mm. I have a set but missing the 9mm.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

No 9mm! Darn thats the one I always am looking for.

 

[LesserSon]

Ran into a puzzling 14” all-metal Bonney Stillson today. I didn’t buy it, because I have one already, though it is obviously of a different era.
At first, I didn’t think it was Bonney, because of the round size markings and the “guaranteed” marking, which reminds me of some other brand. Lakeside? Hmm.
But there is an embedded-shield stamp on the shank. Later than the one I already have, with the forged-in B-shield, I think.

EDIT - mystery solved (I think) at a different antique co-op today. The familiar-looking “guaranteed” mark appears on these Erie Tool Works Stillson wrenches, and the round forged-in sizes on one of them (along with the bellied-out style grip; green, no less). Conclusion: Bonney contracted with Erie for some Stillsons at some point, probably in the 1920s.

 

[JjKk40]

Nice set of metrics Bonneyman!

 

[bonneyman]

Nice set of metrics Bonneyman!

Thank you, sir!

Truth be told the metrics are way harder to find in the wild. I still come across SAE angles here and there - but I've never seen a metric Bonney since buying this set years ago.

 

[Provincial]

Maybe they figured that you would use the 5/16, so they didn't have to make an 8mm?

 

[bonneyman]

Some more additions to the Bonney stockpile. A pair of 6" 3/8 extensions, along with a 3" extension and a 5/8" x 11/16" DBE.

Just love that Bonney chrome! $20 for all.

 

[bonneyman]

Maybe they figured that you would use the 5/16, so they didn't have to make an 8mm?

Yeah, if I had a metric set missing the 19mm combo I'd stick a 3/4" in the there in a heartbeat.

 

[JjKk40]

New editions to the Bonney metric family! Gotta clean up the glue residue from the duct tape that was used in the packing and they should shine up ok!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Those look pretty ohio

 

[Shelbylex]

This look great, JjKk40! Nice find!

 

[PSCo1867]

First off: a huge shout to Mr Bonneyman!

I finally threw all of my Bonneys together for a family photo. Included are (from top to bottom)484, 1176, 1176, 1174, 373, RF55, 756C, 554A, RF54, RF55A, 276A, 274A, 269A, 271D, 275A, 825C, 1731B

 

[bonneyman]

First off: a huge shout to Mr Bonneyman!

I finally threw all of my Bonneys together for a family photo. Included are (from top to bottom)484, 1176, 1176, 1174, 373, RF55, 756C, 554A, RF54, RF55A, 276A, 274A, 269A, 271D, 275A, 825C, 1731B

Thanks - I think?

Really liking your old style double flare ends. Really handy for soft fittings. Keep an eye out for RF-57 - rare and quite useful on 13/16" fittings!

 

[JjKk40]

Another quality piece!

 

[bonneyman]

Another quality piece!

Very clean example, Jj!

 

[LesserSon]

I’ll ask: what size is that Stillson? I cannot make it out, if in fact it is forged into the dynamic jaw, and not just a trick of the light. 12”?

 

[JjKk40]

LesserSon, it must be the pic playing tri
cks! Lol! Here's the size open, and closed.





The brand is imprinted into the handle, not raised. Would that mean it was stamped after the forging or are there examples of forging like this?