Spreading the Bonney affliction!

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice start to a collection. If you are having fun then it is a good thing!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That late 40's 50's era stack is from 2014. GJ member egnorant. He hasn't been around in awhile. I wonder how he's doing on his collection since the wrench and the stack?

 

[JjKk40]

I'd say that is an excellent start Bruce!

 

[PSCo1867]

BTW, the related “A” through “E” wrenches are S-shaped. I was crowing and grousing about them a few posts back.

LesserSon, your post just solved the mystery of my "E" wrench. It's indeed a Bonney 15/16" X 1-1/8" per your brochure. Here I'm all excited, while my gf is shaking her head as if I have no life!

 

[JjKk40]

Guys just wanted to spread the love here, I hope this is ok to do. I have absolutely no connection to this. I came across it searching as I have no life and constantly am looking for Bonney stuff to buy! Lol.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313409581573

 

[bonneyman]

Guys just wanted to spread the love here, I hope this is ok to do. I have absolutely no connection to this. I came across it searching as I have no life and constantly am looking for Bonney stuff to buy! Lol.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313409581573

Well, they don't call me the Bonneyman for nothing!

Though I am a little less frantic now that my sets are fairly complete.

 

[Farmer J.]

Well, they don't call me the Bonneyman for nothing!

Though I am a little less frantic now that my sets are fairly complete.

Yea, it's great that you all share and post what you have found, I'm always looking at this thread just to see what has come up next! Bonney tools very rare here so interesting to see. And my Grandfather had a lovely heavy working horse called Bonney, so the name has pleasant personal connotations. I sometimes find her huge old shoes in the fields.

 

[JjKk40]

Cleaned some boney stuff up yesterday a little. Its a mix of BonECon with the "B Shield" and other BonECon until I can complete each set.







remove duplicates from string

 

[LesserSon]

I did not know Bon-E-Con sockets acquired lobed broaching. My understanding was they were made more economical than the Bonney line by offering older technology. Maybe the age of those means the Loc-Rite patent had passed?

 

[Mikeske]

I did not know Bon-E-Con sockets acquired lobed broaching. My understanding was they were made more economical than the Bonney line by offering older technology. Maybe the age of those means the Loc-Rite patent had passed?

I seen a few with the lobed broaching that were marked Bon-E-Con but they are few and far between.

 

[LesserSon]

eBay local pickup today (bottom of first photo). 6” Stillson. Had me at PHILA, but now I notice intriguing placement of the leaf spring. Larger Stillsons have two leaf springs that more or less balance each other. 6” Stillsons usually have just one, but in the opposite position, and there’s no hole where a rivet could have been.
There is the slightest ghost of forged-in letters on the one side...of course my phone refuses to focus on it.
The other side is stamped “STILLSON PATTERN WRENCH MFD BY BONNEY VISE & TOOL WKS. INC. [PHI]LA PA.” The abbreviation of Philadelphia is very faint (and again, poorly focused), so I’m not 100% if it’s PHILA or PHILADA.
In addition to the place of manufacture, there are some design differences from Allentown-made Stillsons: the dynamic jaw is a bit longer and more gracile, the adjustment frame is narrower.

 

[outofbounds]

Cam-Loc? Or Cam-Lock? I'm not sure where the "K" came from.......

 

[bonneyman]

Cam-Loc? Or Cam-Lock? I'm not sure where the "K" came from.......

I've got wrenches marked both ways. Seems like all the Cam-Lock (with a k) tools I've seen were later Bonney-marked stuff.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Snagged this PH-2 (3-1/2 oz.) gasket hammer this morning at the flea. Wartime or earlier marking, faint but legible. Always love this era branding with the skinny font and the serifs. Classy.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Also picked up a most unusual TuHex No. 167 (7/8") TuType (Bonney branding for "combination") wrench. See Pics 1, 2, & 3. The TuHex line was an economy line (see catalog excerpt in Pic 5), which was probably just fine with Wright Aeronautical. They used them for turning rocker hub nuts and bolts on the Wright Cyclone 205A engine (see Pic 6). Date code is illegible (see Pic 4), but this is a wartime wrench.

 

[bonneyman]

The broaching on the box end looks crisp, Lugz! They sure used good steel on those old tools.

 

[Provincial]

Wright Cyclone GR-1820-205A was used on the Brewster Buffalo B-339-23, built for the Netherlands East Indies Air Force, but all delivered to the Royal Australian Air Force, with some going to the U.S. Army Air Force.

The British operated some Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters using this engine. The first was called the Martlet MKI, which was diverted from a French order after the Fall of France. Later, they operated the upgraded Mk IV, and bought General Motors FM-1 (Mk V and VI) Wildcats, a license-built version of the F4F. In between, they operated some Grumman versions with Pratt & Whitney engines. All the British-operated aircraft were Navy fighters.

Which leads to the question, was the wrench supplied for the Brewster, Grumman, or GM aircraft?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Which leads to the question, was the wrench supplied for the Brewster, Grumman, or GM aircraft?

Sorry. I'm not at liberty to discuss those details with you.

 

[LesserSon]

Two really nice finds, Lugz!
That date code is vague, but if I had to guess, I’d say FR (June 1940).

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The broaching on the box end looks crisp, Lugz! They sure used good steel on those old tools.

They sure did. I took the excerpt from the 1939 cat, proclaiming Chrome-Alloy, because there are no TuHex tools in the back of the 1941 cat, but the wartime Wright and "Alloy Steel" markings indicate "New Emergency" triple-alloy (which was low dose nickel-chro-moly) formulas that became the 86xx and 87xx AISI classes.

Two really nice finds, Lugz!

Thanks, LS.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

On the date code, I was thinking "R", too, but that's early for ALLOY STEEL.

 

[LesserSon]

Well, well, well! Not Prentiss prices, but for an exposed-screw model, commendable!

Garage Vise sold on eBay

It is the larger (model 840) of the two sizes (3” & 4”) offered in the 1923 catalog. The 1919 catalog shows a different design for the tower and a lever instead of a wingnut for anchoring to the bench. I wish no one else had spotted it!

 

[Old Radar]

That baby's been used a long time without the stationary jaw.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

An ujoint and a sliding t, look pretty old

 

[bonneyman]

Shoot Oldtool, those pieces are nice!

Raised letters on the logo is definitely an eye catcher.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks bman. Ujoint is still pretty tight. Don't usually find them with raised lettering.

 

[Farmer J.]

Thanks bman. Ujoint is still pretty tight. Don't usually find them with raised lettering.

Yea, that looks good. It's nice to have high quality and unusual items like that in a collection.

 

[LesserSon]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Bonney CV socket or adapter with forged-in lettering. Maybe a fixed Tee.
That looks to have an AT (Jan1928) date code, partially milled away.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

The t and the ujoint appear in this add

 

[LesserSon]

I actually meant this one - doesn’t slide.

Today I confirmed the identity of this 2-1/4” No3 Bonney swivel-jaw vise...missing the swivel jaw, of course.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Bonney CV socket or adapter with forged-in lettering.

!!!!!

I'll have to dig through stuff to double check, but I don't think so. Highly unusual.

Cool find, Otg.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I think I have a no slider somewhere. Have to check but I don't think it had raised lettering.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here it is. A 4082 cv no date code. Just stamped.

 

[RTM]

Hey gang, while sorting through last weeks socket extravaganza find, I think I may have a different one for the type study guys.

LesserSon started it here, Lugz chimed in, and then LS again.


This socket seems to hit a weird gap, as it has the weak knurling of the later models, but the big BY and smaller ONNE, but it has MADE IN U.S.A. under the Bonney, no CV, and a T10 not shown. I think its after Lugz's type 5, but around LS's type 5 & 6. And no triangle under the Y of Bonney.

Just another data point, anyone have any clues where it fits? Its a stray to me, if anyone needs it.

 

[LesserSon]

Yes, a thorough type study would be nice to have available, but variants still pop up. I’d opine your 3/8dr example shows that the characteristics changed at different rates for the different drive sizes. One thing that seems consistent is the change from “MADE IN U.S.A.” to “U.S.A.” to “USA”.
Here are some variants of the A19 within my “type 4A”; you can see that there are still differences among them.

 

[JjKk40]

Finally picked up another one of these 3/8 ratchets and it is in working order. Still looking for a suitable spring for my other one!

 

[LesserSon]

Dang it! I spotted this on eBay, noticed the belled-out end and early CV logo, but didn’t pounce.
Today, I was perusing DATAMP, and recognized it from the Durham patent illustration.
Anyone on this thread the new owner? ANYone have one like it?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I just posted that one above. Post 3464

 

[LesserSon]

Ha-ha on me! I was so focused on the universal, I barely registered the tee. Thanks!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That ujoint is distracting