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Machineman84

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Bonney ratchet collection is growing. Finally all three, the 1/4” drive with cross hair selector took a few years to locate. I did find some with the rectangle selector in the process.
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Family photo including the sweetheart ratchets. Still have not located the 1/4” sweetheart. Does it exist. EEA21ADB-19EE-4529-84E0-C6999907DD3E.jpeg

I haven't located any either in the Bonney series or the B Shield series. I haven't seen any 3/4 either. I m wondering if they couldn't make it in 1/4. The pawl spring is sososo small for the 3/8 (I mic'd it but forgot the measurement), it probably wouldn't hold up any smaller for 1/4", but who knows.
 

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The 1960 catalog (section1 page5) shows both the V701 (crosshair) and a patent-pending V707 (sweetheart) ratchet (promising notice when available, like the 3/8 & 1/2 models), but the 1963 catalog does not show a VV707. Instead it just shows a V701, even though the TT707 and AA707 are shown. I think that lends plausibility to JjKk40’s idea that there was a problem with manufacturing a 707 in 1/4dr, or they just didn’t perform as well in the workplace as in the “exhaustive tests.”
In 1967, the 702K family replaced both the 701 and 707 families. I don’t admire the 702Ks’ generic looks, but they do feel more robust.
I have neither the illustrated V707 nor the hypothetical VV707, though I wish I did.
 
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I'm so impressed by you guys whose Bonney collecting and prowess extends from early vintage to modern vintage eras. Even if I had a collecting interest I don't think I would be able to keep all that class-of-airframe-ish looking greek straight. Of course, now I'm wondering how many "sweetheart" (a term I had heretofore lodged exclusively in the Stanley bucket in my small cranial cavity!) ratchets I've left behind when passing up modern vintage Bonney. Who knew it was a desirable thing? "Not I!" said the blind collector with poor flipping business sense. Perhaps it's time for me to bone up.
 
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I did recently add another just pre- or early wartime era tool - a 'T9 BONNEY (CV) MADE IN U.S.A.' speeder with a natural steel finish - to my need for a TD2 box! This was part of my Sunday morning small haul (Pic 1) from the flea that I have been too pre-occupied with midget hinge handle spring-loaded detent balls to get to. New group shot (Pic 2). Markings (Pic 3).
 

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They're very unusual. Or at least to me, after handling so many WWII era GMTK boxes. The liftout tray is very deep and sits on very deep tray supports. That's kind of neat - almost like they want you to put most of your tools in there, as if they intended it to be a truck/ trouble box, and they're pretty much saying you need to do most of your work out of the liftout tray. And they gave the tray handle alot of air under it for that reason. Unfortunately, that makes the main compartment very shallow. You'll see what I mean as soon as you see it, and especially when you start loading it up.
 

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Nice box. Only one I’ve seen like that was in Lugz’s trunk!
Finding any Bonney-branded box is a remarkable experience to me. The first one I saw was just outside Aurora NY, during the Rt90 50-mile yardsale years ago. It was a crinkle red top box with some welded PO mods. Foolishly, I figured (back then) that I’d see a better one some day. But I haven’t even seen a worse one.
Congratulations!
 
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@JjKk40 I saw that box (or another one) on marketplace recently. I had to stop myself from pulling the trigger on it. I'm glad to see it went to a good home. (y)


Same here I passed on it a few times before this morning when I finally said to myself I had to have it!!!! Lol! Sometimes Marketplace has some cool stuff to find!
 

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Thanks Lugs and LesserSon! Do you guys think this is a wartime box? And do you guys think the # 115 stenciled on it is significant to anything? Like a truck or fleet or something?
 

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I was wondering about that with respect to the box color timeline (prewar black to wartime camo brown to postwar red) we were talking about and the potential for transition overlaps. As I pointed out when I got mine, the decal is wartime, the red is postwar, but it sure seems to fall in a transition 'grey' area.
 

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I picked up this partial refrigeration set several weeks ago and haven’t really looked at it until tonight. What is here is in pristine condition. Not sure what is missing yet but I’ll figure it out. No Bonney label on the box but it seems to have the characteristics of a genuine Bonney tin.
 

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From the nameplate, I’d place it in the early 1970s. Maybe someone who recognizes the OEM could tell more from the construction details.
 

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Bought this little bonney set recently

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Today’s finds, the stubby driver is Unidentified . No size markings on the small doe, any info about it welcome.
 

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Private Lugnutz

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Nice acquisition, OTB!

What is in the yellow cardboard boxes?

I haven't done a one-for-one comparison (although that would be interesting...), but I am pretty sure that's the postwar version of my black 9/32-drive ES5 (Extra Small No.5) set! Same number of pieces. It went 1/4-drive in 1941 and they changed the set number to VS55 (Very Small No. 55), which also had the same number of pieces. I see that by 1950 Bonney had toned down their bold touting of it as "the most compact, most complete set of small and miniature tools ever assembled by any manufacturer." They might be right, though, even in 1950! :thumbup:

Re-posting some pics for context.
 

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Private Lugnutz

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interesting assortment of small tools.
Indeed. With the hammers, screwdrivers, feelers, and pickerupper, it probably was unprecedented. I am missing a couple punches as I recall. It's just neat that they stuck with the same concept and kept knocking it out year after year.

What is the long thing with the knurled handle and looks like a black rubberized tip?

It's neat that yours still has the butcher paper to help protect the tools.
 

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It is a screw holder. Was surprised packing paper still there. I don't think this set has been used.
 

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Very nice set! It’s especially interesting to me to see the knurl on the sockets associated with the sticker logo and the other tool styles. Helps to establish the style-changes timeline I’ve been picking at, though I’ve mostly relied on 1/2dr sockets.
 

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From the nameplate, I’d place it in the early 1970s. Maybe someone who recognizes the OEM could tell more from the construction details.
I may not have appreciated how long that logo style persisted…I still see it in the 1986 catalog.
 

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There is another one of the Bonney tool boxes I just bought on FB Marketplace. Its close to what I paid. Not sure if he's open to offers as I did not contact the guy. FB ***** for links so here's some screenshots. You should be able to find the add from the info in these pics...

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