Oh, I have M Coupes. Much shorter than all of those. lol
Starting the garage plan, what should I include?
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Oh, I have M Coupes. Much shorter than all of those. lol
That is the classic mistake - building for what you have right now and not looking forward.
If you think building a shop is expensive, imagine how expensive it will be to create more space when a hobby changes. The increment now is as cheap as it will ever get.
I never figured I would have a CNC table, I didn't expect to store a couple small boats in the off season, I have been lucky to be able to use some space at my parents for the enclosed snowmobile trailer since they now keep the RV south year round. That won't last forever.
If you think building a shop is expensive, imagine how expensive it will be to create more space when a hobby changes. The increment now is as cheap as it will ever get.
I never figured I would have a CNC table, I didn't expect to store a couple small boats in the off season, I have been lucky to be able to use some space at my parents for the enclosed snowmobile trailer since they now keep the RV south year round. That won't last forever.
njk4o5
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conventional framing with a ridge beam supporting the roof gets you tons of ceiling height compared to trusses. costs less too
Can I do that with a 30+ foot span?
Scissor Trusses get you most of that volume and will typically be cheaper than ridge beam for 30'+ and all the dimensional lumber and labor to put it all together. You also have to lift that beam into place which will be a crane truck $$ in most cases. Trusses are often delivered to the top plate if you have your walls up.
You can span anything (within reason) It is just a matter of how big of a beam, beam depends on load scenario required locally.
You can span anything (within reason) It is just a matter of how big of a beam, beam depends on load scenario required locally.
Ak Jim
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Cool. Just didn’t want you to build it and have them not fit. That’s something I’d probably do.
Hi friend.
Late to your garage thread, I'm also in the planning stages for shop/storage space for my (much smaller) Mcoupe collection. I've got a 28x40 plan in the works. Attic trusses and "clean storage" as well. with a 12ft interior ceiling and 2 4 posts lifts have you considered stacking the Coupes in lieu of tandum. Up is cheaper than out to get the most out of your square footage.
Late to your garage thread, I'm also in the planning stages for shop/storage space for my (much smaller) Mcoupe collection. I've got a 28x40 plan in the works. Attic trusses and "clean storage" as well. with a 12ft interior ceiling and 2 4 posts lifts have you considered stacking the Coupes in lieu of tandum. Up is cheaper than out to get the most out of your square footage.
I'm trying to stretch my budget as far as I can, but with materials costs so high, I have to pick and choose. I have to choose a drain rough-in instead of a bathroom. The bonus room will be simply attic storage, and at this point I will be building for potential expansion instead in several ways that have minimal expense to the overall cost.
I can't afford to pay someone to build a million dollar house, so I'm subbing out the stuff I'm bad at.
Slab, blockwork, and roofing are all not something I want to tackle, simply from a time perspective.
If I can pay subs to get the box dried in, then I can start tackling the rest at my own speed.
CraigStu
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My friend had a total of 5 guys to put his these trusses. We were all in our 60s.
IMG_20131102_154951_304 by craig stuard, on Flickr
All up in about 5 hours. We first put them up upside down. Then we made several different length pusher pieces of 2x4s. Just a simple Y on the end. The short pusher got started raising the peak of the truss until the pusher was vertical and we set the other end on the floor. Then the next longer pusher until it was vertical and it's end was on the floor. This way we could flip the truss in steps and any time we had a problem we just set the pusher against the floor to give us time to fix the problem. If the pusher wasn't full vertical yet, a couple of us stood against it so it wouldn't slide. I was really dreading this but was surprised how easy it turned out to be.
IMG_20131102_154951_304 by craig stuard, on FlickrAll up in about 5 hours. We first put them up upside down. Then we made several different length pusher pieces of 2x4s. Just a simple Y on the end. The short pusher got started raising the peak of the truss until the pusher was vertical and we set the other end on the floor. Then the next longer pusher until it was vertical and it's end was on the floor. This way we could flip the truss in steps and any time we had a problem we just set the pusher against the floor to give us time to fix the problem. If the pusher wasn't full vertical yet, a couple of us stood against it so it wouldn't slide. I was really dreading this but was surprised how easy it turned out to be.
This looks great. How high are the ceilings? You went with the cambered trusses? How wide are the trusses and about how much were they each?
I'm coming to the realization that I need to draft up my plans. I haven't drafted anything in 20 years. Ironically, I have a useless degree in Architecture so I should probably be able to draw something suitable. The garage doesn't bother me, its the house that I know needs to have proper drawings so the toilets don't end up in the middle of the kitchen.
CraigStu
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This was a friends garage not mine. As best I remember the walls were 12ft. you can see that the truss style got him another 4-5ft of ceiling height in the center of the truss. The depth of the garage was in the 26ft area.
3 years ago we had our retirement house built. We found a contractor we liked and looked at his standard models and chose one. I got a design program from HGTV and used that to modify the plans. Actually all that we used were the outside wall layout. Lots of emails asking would this work w/ a part of the plan attached. The program had me placing things in 2D but also had a 3D option so we could virtually walk around in the house. I used the programs stock furniture pieces which I could modify the dimensions and color. So I made up all our furniture pieces so we could place them to see how they would fit. We got to our final version and I sent it to him so his draftsman could make official drawings from mine. later I asked the draftsman how it had gone using my drawings. He said it was fine after he moved the staircase a little. I had it placed about 6 inches different in the first floor layout compared to the second floor layout. I am sure there are other design programs but this one worked well for a complete novice and yet had everything I needed.
Cairo94507
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I would not have garage without a sink.
05snopro440
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One thing I've found in my garage is that I really love having big windows. My last garage had no windows and I didn't realize how much I missed it, but when I go out to work in the garage on a sunny day summer or winter, it instantly brings a smile to my face that there's sunshine in the house and I can see out into the yard. There's a balance between light and security, but I love it.