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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Subterranean Two Car Garage

Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
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Miter saw bench came out great. I see you joined the "dark side" of no miter fence. I like your stop block solution as well. I think you should rename your thread the 4 Gang Outlet Shop. Seriously though I am a little jealous at how many outlets you have.

Bret

Yeah, some of those miter fences look really cool, But I find the t-track in the bench top to be way more practical and flexible for my needs.

LOL, The outlets took on a life of their own, But I really wanted to avoid ever needing extension cords if at all possible.

I also love your garage thread, its a great mix of wood working/turning, and car restoration. I think having a mix of hobbies keeps it fresh. Your layout is very functional, well thought out. Down the road I may convert some of bench cabinets to drawers like you have but at this point I needed to wrap up the garage so I can build something other than my garage, lol.

Also, I need to reclaim the other half of garage for my car now that winter is coming. right now the car side is a sea of scrap wood, sheet goods, saw horses, and all my tools begging for cabinets to go into.
 
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That’s a great miter bench and stop block design. I’m currently building a Paulk table that will double as an outfeed table, but a new miter stand is right behind that.

I have the same Bosch saw fitted with a Diablo blade - love that thing!
 
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That’s a great miter bench and stop block design. I’m currently building a Paulk table that will double as an outfeed table, but a new miter stand is right behind that.

I have the same Bosch saw fitted with a Diablo blade - love that thing!

I really dig the Paulk design. I have sort of a precursor to that concept of light weight/torsion design. I have a modified version of Norms assembly table from the New Yankee workshop I use for my outfeed/assembly table.

Where in Mass are you?
 

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I really dig the Paulk design. I have sort of a precursor to that concept of light weight/torsion design. I have a modified version of Norms assembly table from the New Yankee workshop I use for my outfeed/assembly table.

Where in Mass are you?

Concord, near the Acton line. My wife grew up in Marshfield and her parents still live there.
 
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Concord, near the Acton line. My wife grew up in Marshfield and her parents still live there.

You must be a special guy to get a south shore girl to move all the way up there lol. Concord is a beautiful area with a ton of cool revolutionary history. I am from Narragansett Rhode Island myself, moved to MA about 17 years ago.
 

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You must be a special guy to get a south shore girl to move all the way up there lol. Concord is a beautiful area with a ton of cool revolutionary history. I am from Narragansett Rhode Island myself, moved to MA about 17 years ago.
Yeah - I’m definitely the lucky one in the relationship!
 
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More updates

Some updates.

I re purposed cabinets I tore out of kitchen. I debated building from scratch but with a bit of clamping back together and reinforcing these were usable as carcasses and save me a bunch of time and money
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After reinforcing and straightening them out, I attached them together on the floor so they were a single unit and then mounted them on the wall above miter bench. U can see charger in middle cabinet where i had pre-installed one of my outlet boxes.
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I installed a face frame with sliding door tracks, then added luan sides and door to complete cabinet renovation
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doors and cabinets got two coats of the wall color paint
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Added my architect lamp to dust hood, added more wrenches to peg board, the box end ratchets are USA craftsman I have had for a bit.
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Next was installing cabinet doors. I used 4" galvanized dock cleats for door handles, and added a couple coats of wall color paint.
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here you can see air compressor in its cabinet, there is of course a 4 square outlet box in there too. added 25" coiled poly air hose. Certainly nice for most jobs when in the shop having air ready and not dealing with coiling hose. I have a 50' goodyear hose on top of compressor for when i need it
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Had been using a few old puzzle mats from kids play room, and they make a big difference after a few hour on your knees/back. Not to mention the flip/flop eva foam material is quite durable. So i spent about $50 on puzzle mats, and covered my main work area where I do majority of standing. why i didn't do this before I don't know, but I am a believer now.
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It fascinates me how fast i can make a mess. Garage was clean before I started installing face vise on assembly table....
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This was a bit of the seat of the pants install as bench was not originally designed for vise and as such i had to improvise. The bench is a modified Norm Abrams assembly table with torsion box top. The top layer of bench is 3/4 starboard HDPE, i got this from a sign company 10 years back, amazing stuff, flat, wont hurt woodworking tools, wears like iron. The vise is a shop fox 9" quick release. I made jaws out of poplar I had lying around

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So main garage construction is finally finished!
Next step is dump run to clean out other half of garage so i can park my car and give a proper finished shop tour/pictures.
 

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Nice work on the cabinets and the vise install. I am a believer in mats as well. I got all mine from work they were going in the trash. They actually are made to go in the checkstands for the checkers who stand all day in one spot.

Looking forward to the whole shop tour.

Bret
 
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Nice work on the cabinets and the vise install. I am a believer in mats as well. I got all mine from work they were going in the trash. They actually are made to go in the checkstands for the checkers who stand all day in one spot.

Looking forward to the whole shop tour.

Bret

Thanks, its been a journey with everything else going on in life. I like your idea of logging shop time, I think if I could see I hadn't been out there in a while I would prioritize getting out there.

I also dig the legos. My son went through a few year phase where he had built several citi buildings like police station, fire station etc. He and his sister played with them a lot and invariably the "disassembled"

I swear if I could invent a lego sorter so you could go back to numbered bags for reconstruction after a major disaster I would be rich. I do not have the patience to inventory the pieces once all mixed up. I often wanted to "Kragle" them together, but they have built some pretty cool freestyle stuff from all the sets so I am glad I did not.

Ps, sorry about your dog, the bond your form with a close canine is like no other.
 
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Lumber storage:

After a lot of thought on my past shop, and seeing some of the garages here, I have determined I have no desire/need to store any lumber in my garage. Most of the lumber in my old shop was scrap, with a few good pieces mixed in. Mostly it collected dust and consumed space. In most cases I buy lumber specifically for my projects. The old lumber I already have is used sparingly for shop projects etc since I don't normally have enough leftovers to build anything of significance.

With that in mind, and a desire to keep this shop neater I decided to store what lumber I do keep in my 12'x8'shed which is only a few steps away from my garage. I built a sheetgood swing out rack, made from a single sheet of plywood, a couple 2x8, a couple strap hinges and a 3" fixed caster. This design holds 10 3/4 sheets of plywood, more than I would ever store. I also added a 1' scrap of hardboard across the bottom of the stud cavities to store small off cuts. Above the sheet goods is a 8' shelf for heavier long stock. In the rafters I added multiple levels of stringers to store thin long stock/molding etc as well as shovel and rakes.

In total all this lumber storage only consumes a 9" wide strip of floor space in the shed.

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ok, I hit flickr limit :| Had to switch to using google photos, i could only see them when logged into google, should work now.
 

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I was way over the Flickr limit. I went pro as my entire thread would have lost all pictures. I use google as a backup as well. Curious how you get the google pics to work on the thread?

Bret
 
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Wow! What a transformation! Looks great!

Thanks, its been a journey. I really dig your checkerboard floor and clean garage. I do some car work in my garage but its 85% woodworking, so I opted for everything sawdust color to match all my sawdust, lol.
 
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I was way over the Flickr limit. I went pro as my entire thread would have lost all pictures. I use google as a backup as well. Curious how you get the google pics to work on the thread?

Bret

So it took few experiment's but here is how I do it...

  • In Google photos select photos you want to share, and add them to your shared album(s)
  • Go into the shared album and click on the picture you want link to so you are viewing the pics on the black background in single picture mode
  • right click on the picture and selct copy
  • in your post on garage journal click the picture icon, right click and paste, at the end of the pasted link type the following:
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  • in your post in edit mode it should look like....
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Thanks, As with many of the folks on here, much of the ideas and designs are results of the garages we see on this forum.
Shop is looking great! I need a dust collection system like that, I might steal some ideas from yours. Already have the wood storage idea "borrowed" from somewhere else.

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So it took few experiment's but here is how I do it...

  • In Google photos select photos you want to share, and add them to your shared album(s)
  • Go into the shared album and click on the picture you want link to so you are viewing the pics on the black background in single picture mode
  • right click on the picture and selct copy
  • in your post on garage journal click the picture icon, right click and paste, at the end of the pasted link type the following:
    -tmp.jpg
  • in your post in edit mode it should look like....
    "
    "

Thanks alot. I am going to give it a try.

Bret
 
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So the garage is done, and major cleaning is done, and car can come into garage, although I generally only park it in here when its dry, before a snow storm, etc. I try to keep cement dry to limit amount of salty water I have pooled on the floor. For me this space is a shop first garage second, so tools come before the car since the car was designed to be in the weather and the tools were not.

Everything is "behind closed doors" and generally where it will go, but I have a long way to go organizing it all, but I wanted to takes some pics while its neat at least.

here is a shot from each corner near garage door

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Here is my pegboard, this is the only thing truly organized so far in shop, I thought awhile about tools I use a lot that, and ones that are a pain to dig for in drawers. After a few different tries these were the guys who made it onto pegboard. I made the custom racks out of maple and L-hooks on back to hang them on pegboard.

The tool chest is a craftsman middle chest, I got it last week for $80, 50% off, as I was cruising sears, pretty sad in the store, but time has passed their business model by unfortunately. I slapped a piece of left over butcher block on top. Its is pretty thin compared to my old Proto 5 drawer, but its really for smaller stuff i use a lot for general tinkering anyway.

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here we can see how sewer pipe makes for great clamp storage
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Pennants are up. My kids are so spolied, they dont remember how bad the Pats sucked, or the curse of the Bambino, its been a pretty crazy run sports wise last 15 years.
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front to back
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shot from the front corners
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Shots from outside
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Shots with the car in garage
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that's updates for now. next stop organize tools chest and cabinets to optimize space
 

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Shop looks fantastic. I really like how you were picky about what went on the pegboard. That is similar to how I have been organizing my stuff. What do I use the most and how can I make it more efficient to grab it.

My boss would love every one of your pennants. He is originally from Boston.

Man those angled corners on your garage doors would drive me nuts. There are a lot of houses around here built like that in the 80's when that was popular.

Looking forward to your updates.

Bret
 
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Shop looks fantastic. I really like how you were picky about what went on the pegboard. That is similar to how I have been organizing my stuff. What do I use the most and how can I make it more efficient to grab it.

My boss would love every one of your pennants. He is originally from Boston.

Man those angled corners on your garage doors would drive me nuts. There are a lot of houses around here built like that in the 80's when that was popular.

Looking forward to your updates.

Bret

Thanks, I am buying into the whole first order of retrieval idea. That plus I always hear my grandfather in my head “if you don’t know where it is you might as well not even own it.”

I debated changing the opening when I had the doors done, but because my garage is on the side of the house and the house style in general visually they work.
 
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The benefit of being under house and underground, got into my car this am, it was 38 degrees, that’s with no heat in garage. Outside temp was 2, windchill of -20.

When I do want heat house came with separate zone and registers in the adjoining laundry room, I can heat garage to 65 in about 15 minutes.
 
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Quick Project: Keg stool

Quick project. I have been meaning to build a shop stool out of an old empty keg I have been dragging around for years, and finally got it done.

The first challenge was finding foam that was dense enough, most shop stool i sit on and the foam bottoms out. I went to fabric store and found vinyl remnant to cover seat for $3, and I tried all the foam they had there, even the densest foam was not all that dense, and it was not cheap either.

So I left, and searched on for the right type of padding, after squeezing everything i could find i bought a thick yoga mat from Joblot for $10, and cut it into 4 section i glued together to get me about 2.5 inches thick. I used spray glue to glue the 4 sections together after i rough cut them.

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once glue setup, i used keg as a template and cut out foam about 1/2 wider than keg, jig saw worked well for this

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Next i cut out plywood to fit keg
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I then cut some 2x3 and fit them to bottom of plywood for a tight friction fit with keg
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then I glued foam to seat
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While that setup I decided to clean up keg a bit, I peeled off stickers and sanded it with 80grit pads on random orbit sander

Here it is before
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Half way done
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Finished. I was shooting for a brushed look, not perfect, but 100% better for about 30 minutes of sanding
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Next i let vinyl warm in sun, then stretched and stapled it to the seat
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Here is finished product, perfect height for 37 inch benches like i have. Seat is firm enough for the largest of large guys while still being comfortable. Total cost since keg was free and wood was scrap was about $15
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