Tap and die set

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

I ordered the Irwin 26317 metric for 99.99. Hope I did well on the price and variety...

 

[Kenskip1]

Well it is now all said and done,I placed my order with Amazon. Should be here Friday, Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, Ken

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JBNGZM8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[JAKE-THE-TOOL-MAN]

Irwin master set will serve you well

 

[flushcut]

Flushcut, Exactly which set are you referring to? They have a set for around $85 and a set around $39. Now is this statement being made from personal experience or simply word of mouth. It is odd that watching videos on the tube that many are very well satisfied.When did you use this set last if at all?
I am interested in this set however I require some sort of proof when someone makes a statement such as yours. Have you used the set by Astro?How about Kobalt?Texton?Sir, unless you are able to show some documented proof I will simply have to ignore your comment.In closing sir,if I had a unlimited budget then yes I would seek out a better quality set. However, conditions as they are I am carefully looking for a set that is within my budget.Yes this might include the $88 from Harbor Freight. Ken

It was the more expensive set. It is now residing in a land fill been there for several years now. I wanna say I bought the set 9-10 years ago at a guess.
The Kobalt set is ok for A36 steel but harder grades of steel they just don't cut it. I still use the Kobalt set but have replaced several of the smaller taps with Irwin and Norseman, the dies however I have had no issues with.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Hope I like mine! I didn't go with the big kit because I want to buy better drill bits. I'd also like a smaller case to bring to my work. And right now metric seems to be all I need so I saved the 100+ dollars.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

For anybody who's curious, this is my new Irwin set compared to my grandfather's bluepoint Irwin set.

 

[6PTsocket]

I have this set from Snap On.

https://store.snapon.com/Metric-Set-41-pc-Metric-Tap-and-Die-Set-P630632.aspx



I am 99% sure it is a rebranded Irwin set. I did not pay full retail for it. Along with my Craftman rethread kit, I am covered for most situations encountered in modern cars. I also have a set of Lisle tap sockets.



I would like to buy an add-on kit or individual taps and dies for the larger sizes.

So both of your sets are rebadged. Irwin made the Snap On and virtually every rethreading tap and die, including Snap On and Craftsman, is made by Lang (formerly Kastar).

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[SuzukiGS750EZ]

I like my craftsman (lang) thread restorer set. If I have a need for SAE taps I'll buy the Irwin set but I don't use them much as far as I can remember.

 

[6PTsocket]

The Snap On/ Irwin set is carbon steel. It is more brittle than High Speed steel so it is easier to break. It is also harder so trying to drill out a broken tap is damn near impossible. It also does not stay sharp as long. However, I have tapped many holes,with that set, at work. We filled in with HSS when they broke. Chinese HSS can be even worse (like the HF set). Good taps are expensive. I suspect the AP set might be the best bang for the buck. It is Japanese steel machined in Taiwan. I don't know where to get a complete metric set of good quality at a reasonable price but there are plenty of single bits on places like ebay. Why not get the AP set and expand it if necessary. If you have to have them all neat in one case, I have seen those blow molded boxes for sale.

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[SuzukiGS750EZ]

My thought was to buy the Irwin set as a whole and then buy HSS one at a time to replace them as they wear or break. Odds are I'll have a few sizes I use the most for repairs and others will be used in personal projects. I doubt the dies will be used much if at all. In my 31 years of living I've used a die maybe twice. I've used the thread restorer dies plenty of times but cutting does like I said... maybe twice.

 

[6PTsocket]

Flushcut, Exactly which set are you referring to? They have a set for around $85 and a set around $39. Now is this statement being made from personal experience or simply word of mouth. It is odd that watching videos on the tube that many are very well satisfied.When did you use this set last if at all?
I am interested in this set however I require some sort of proof when someone makes a statement such as yours. Have you used the set by Astro?How about Kobalt?Texton?Sir, unless you are able to show some documented proof I will simply have to ignore your comment.In closing sir,if I had a unlimited budget then yes I would seek out a better quality set. However, conditions as they are I am carefully looking for a set that is within my budget.Yes this might include the $88 from Harbor Freight. Ken

There have been endless comments about the poor quality of the HF set. Please ignore my post. Buy the HF set. Tap something harder than plastic or balsa wood and post your review. Then somebody else can question your facts and get burned, too. Many of us have had bad HF reviews not posted. Check around and ignore reviews from obvious shills, looking for more freebies. There is an old saying: "The buyer whose first priority is price is the charlaton's fair game." Some of HF's new, better stuff is amazingly close in cost to the name brand they use for comparison. I think one beat DeWalt by 10 bucks. Regardless of buying power, you cannot market good taps and dies at that price. There may be decent stuff made in China. I can't believe their industry imports all of theirs, but I have never seen a brand name from China that has a reputation for good ones. All I ever see is generic **** with the importer's brand name.

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[SuzukiGS750EZ]

This is my Snap On set. I am 99% positive it is indeed an Irwin rebrand. Which is ok for me, I have 2 sources for the warranty and I did not pay retail. I need to replace 1 of the taps with either a Snap On or Irwin. Otherwise, it is 100% complete and original. Also, far as I can tell every piece is Made in the USA.

Looks just like the bluepoint set I posted above

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

No I figured that. Just interesting that the bluepoint and snap on are essentially the same. Difference between those and the Irwin set is the dies.

 

[CGT80]

I like my GW ratcheting tap handle so much, I rarely use a standard one anymore. My hex dies mostly older Cman, one Hanson and one GW have all worked for making threads just fine. Granted I'm not making anything for NASA

X2 I have a huge set of standard/metric taps and dies in carbon steel from cman in the early 2000s. They work great for occasional use. Viking/noresman from mc master carr for hss taps. The gearwrenh set is awesome, no problem with ratcheting and not having a lock. It allows you to adapt a tap to an impact, drill, or just use extensions when needed. X2 on buying the propper drills for the commonly used taps.

The noresman sticky honey like lube is great for tapping. Viking and noresman are also my favorite for other drill bits.

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[KBigg]

Im not sure about the cost side since my work provides them, but I really like OSG 2 flute taps for through holes or OSG 3 flute spiral taps for flat bottom holes. That SO and Irwin set do look identical though, should serve you well!

 

[6PTsocket]

I can get the Irwin set for 215 new but was hoping to find a tap specific set for the same price but better quality. I don't have any place around here I can run to in the middle of a project so a set is what I'm looking for for convenience. Greenfield is nice but very pricey. If i did that kind of work all day I'd have no problem investing. Are all carbon taps basically the same quality? Gearwrench, Irwin, harbor freight all the same in terms of quality of cut and durability?

All nothing is the same quality. The big HF set claims to be HSS and is TiN coated but it is bottom of the line Chinese. I would go good US carbon first. Good HSS is best. It is not as brittle and less prone to snap rhan carbon and also holds an edge better.The US Hanson carbon set is not bad and I tapped plenty of holes with one, at work. When one broke I filled in with HSS

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[Clcartagena89]

Snap on.. only place that taps and dies come with a lifetime warranty.. master sets with all metric and sae fine, course, and npt threads...run around 500 new. eBay has them new for around 300 most of the time.

 

[WhataTool]

Snap on.. only place that taps and dies come with a lifetime warranty.. master sets with all metric and sae fine, course, and npt threads...run around 500 new. eBay has them new for around 300 most of the time.

our Matco set here is lifetime on everything and isn't Irwin

 

[Clcartagena89]

our Matco set here is lifetime on everything and isn't Irwin

Last time I checked matco was very much a rebranded Irwin?

 

[CobraRed]

Last time I checked matco was very much a rebranded Irwin?

All of their new sets that come with a ratchet (last year or two) don't appear to be Irwin based on discussions here.

 

[Clcartagena89]

All of their new sets that come with a ratchet (last year or two) don't appear to be Irwin based on discussions here.

Ah okay, also wouldnt come with a lifetime warranty anymore either? The lifetime sets were exclusive to the Irwin rebranded stuff same as snap on correct?

 

[CobraRed]

Ah okay, also wouldnt come with a lifetime warranty anymore either? The lifetime sets were exclusive to the Irwin rebranded stuff same as snap on correct?

The new sets so far have all been lifetime

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Irwin sent me two new sets. I asked for the plastic outer case because the one I got the tab was snapped so if it flipped the set would go everywhere. So now I have 2 metric and 2 SAE sets, brand new. Should I be worried that there giving these things out like candy? Lol

 

[eyeball]

Stupid question I'm sure but are all vehicles made from the mid 90s only metric?

Not Jeep Wranglers... My 1997 has a SAE drivetrain and a metric body.