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Tapping 3/8 hole to 7/16

mike7

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The threads on a 3/8-16 hole got all boogered up. I was wondering if a 3/8-16 hole has enough metal left to tap to a 7/16-14 or 7/16-20. If not, what about a M12 x 1.75? Or is the heli-coli/time-sert route the way to go?
 
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What's it holding?

7/16-14 thread tap drill size is 25/64" (.3906).

3/8" is .375".

Should be good.
 
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The question is "is there enough room on the block to support the larger threads" typically a nut has 1 1/2 the height as the diameter of the thread size. That would be a safe guide here as well. Keep in mind if you have to put an insert or helicoil in you are tapping it oversize anyway so you could just go to the larger bolt size. What about the flange you are bolting down over the thermostat? Will it accommodate the larger hole for a bigger bolt?
 
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If it's an aluminum manifold the tap drill is different than what I posted for steel. You need a letter U drill, which is .368", so you probably don't have enough metal there to just tap for 7/16".

If it's a cast iron manifold, you should be ok. Use the same drill as steel, 25/64.
 

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3/8-16 basic major diameter is .375

7/16-14 2A internal minor diameter range is .360 - .375 with a tap drill of size U (.368)

Answer: Drill out the thread and re-tap as 7/16-14. It'll work fine so long as the existing thread isn't augered out past it's major dia.
 

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I'd just drill and helicoil to restore the threads to the original size. A thermostat housing is a low torque application.

I just drilled and helicoiled a dozen 6mm threads a week ago, its a cakewalk if you take your time.
 

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thread size minus pitch is the minor thread diameter and the amount that needs to be left to tap new (it can be slightly bigger but that's the basic idea.)

7/16" - 1/20" = .3875"
7/16" - 1/14" = .3661"

3/8" = .375"

If the threads of the 3/8 hole are boogered but the outer area is entirely intact, you have a bit more than enough meat to drill & tap for 7/16"-20. 7/16"-14 might work, but

Or coiled or solid thread inserts are an option.
 
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If you drill and retap and then booger the threads again will there still be enough metal to do what you should have done first, Timesert?
 

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If it's Aluminum I would go with a Helicoil insert. Hard to guess though without knowing how "boogered" the hole is. It's like a woman asking if these pants make her *** look big without a picture of the ***... :dunno:
 

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Better off just putting an insert in it, and it's fixed correctly forever. If you were around here, I'd pop a Heli Coil in for you.
Jim
 

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The helicoil is such an easy option. Unless its a beater I wouldn't epoxy it, but that's just me. Would it work, likely.
 
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mike7

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Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I ended up tapping it to 7/16-14 at it turned out well.
 
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