rockwithjason
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it's not uncommon at all. most people are shocked when they find out just how much of the utility they have to repair on their own
Thawing a water supply line?
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Thanks, the only way I can think to get it connected without digging is to hook on to the neighbours supply and mine, completing the circuit through through the main.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
You're preaching to the choir my good sir. Idk if a petition to change the policy would do any good or not. I literally can't find any insurance that would cover it if something went wrong either, the lady I talked to at the insurance agency had to have a line replaced last summer and went as far as consulting with an attorney about the city taking care of it under their property. In the end she spent $8000 out of pocket for the repair and road work.
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jlckmj
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Not going to help the OP at this time, but here is what a friend of mine did a few years ago.
Their house was fed through a common valve that they shared with the next door neighbor. The valve was leaking and the city stated that they were responsible for repairs even though it was on city property and 60-70 feet away from their house.
They researched the city ordinances and found that there was nothing in the city code that stated that the were required to have water. They had an attorney contact the city and told them that they no longer wanted water and told them to shut it off. The city realized that they had to repair the valve in order to shut it off so they did the repair.
After the valve was repaired, they told them they changed their mind, and had them turn it back on again,
Jim
Their house was fed through a common valve that they shared with the next door neighbor. The valve was leaking and the city stated that they were responsible for repairs even though it was on city property and 60-70 feet away from their house.
They researched the city ordinances and found that there was nothing in the city code that stated that the were required to have water. They had an attorney contact the city and told them that they no longer wanted water and told them to shut it off. The city realized that they had to repair the valve in order to shut it off so they did the repair.
After the valve was repaired, they told them they changed their mind, and had them turn it back on again,
Jim
sberry
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Do you have fire hydrants in your area? I would think your insurance company wouldn't be pleased to find out that your nearest hydrant may not work.
That said, if you do have a working hydrant nearby, ask (or tell) the city that you are hooking up to it. Insulate the line and keep it running constantly to prevent freeze up.
EOC_Jason
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How are you back-flushing it if you don't have any water?
jimindm
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This is a huge problem that a lot of people in northern states are having right now.
Some of you think that the municipality is the one at fault. So do you want them to build and enact codes so you have to build to standards that are once in a while problem.
Sure this guys city could say yea its an issue lets fix it. They replace the mains to get them deeper, require the people to hook on to them. Oh yea and since you are hooking up you need your service as deep.
Where do you draw the line? Your street floods in a torrential downpour, that happens every ten years. So know the city should require larger culverts, intakes, and storm sewers to fix it. A problem that exists once every ten years.
Remember that the money you want the municipalities to spend is your money. They will get from taxes or some way, from you and your neighbors, to pay for it.
I get it that the OP does not have water. But it is not like its life or death. By his very first post its a place he basically sleeps in. Although it would be very inconvenient to not have water, its not like there is no water in the area. Really how far is the nearest convenience store to buy a couple of gallons of drinking water, or better yet walk next door and have some jugs filled from the neighbor. A couple of five gallon buckets of toilet water and your set.
Some of you guys talk about how soft the kids are now about getting out of school when it snows or the wind chill is 50 below zero. Have you thought that it was not that long ago that indoor plumbing was unheard of. Many of us have parents or grandparents, that can tell you about it.
Yea, the situation that the OP is in *****, but he is not alone. Mother nature got him into it, and sooner or later mother nature will get him out of it. I would try to do something, but at some point you just have to go on with life and not dwell on it. How many hours, or how much money, would you spend to repair it.
Some of you think that the municipality is the one at fault. So do you want them to build and enact codes so you have to build to standards that are once in a while problem.
Sure this guys city could say yea its an issue lets fix it. They replace the mains to get them deeper, require the people to hook on to them. Oh yea and since you are hooking up you need your service as deep.
Where do you draw the line? Your street floods in a torrential downpour, that happens every ten years. So know the city should require larger culverts, intakes, and storm sewers to fix it. A problem that exists once every ten years.
Remember that the money you want the municipalities to spend is your money. They will get from taxes or some way, from you and your neighbors, to pay for it.
I get it that the OP does not have water. But it is not like its life or death. By his very first post its a place he basically sleeps in. Although it would be very inconvenient to not have water, its not like there is no water in the area. Really how far is the nearest convenience store to buy a couple of gallons of drinking water, or better yet walk next door and have some jugs filled from the neighbor. A couple of five gallon buckets of toilet water and your set.
Some of you guys talk about how soft the kids are now about getting out of school when it snows or the wind chill is 50 below zero. Have you thought that it was not that long ago that indoor plumbing was unheard of. Many of us have parents or grandparents, that can tell you about it.
Yea, the situation that the OP is in *****, but he is not alone. Mother nature got him into it, and sooner or later mother nature will get him out of it. I would try to do something, but at some point you just have to go on with life and not dwell on it. How many hours, or how much money, would you spend to repair it.
kesslerbmw
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Build a big *** fire on the ground where its frozen, I've heard of them doing that here in MI when they've had sewer lines frozen.
Nearest fire hydrant is across the street and a few hundred feet down the road. I've pretty much come to grips with the fact that I'm basically out of water for a month to 6 weeks or so. Yeah it's a huge pain in the *** but I'm into it for about $200+ and three days worth of worthless labor. I'll just be thankful for the hospitality of friends and do my best to repay them in the future. Until then I'll probably research some more and basically wait it out.
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MScott
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It would have to be a really BIG *** FIRE to thaw the ground underneath. We used to build large bonfires on the ice of ponds or lakes when ice-skating. The ice underneath never melted.
finn
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The sewer lines were replaced on my mother's street a couple of years ago. They replaced the water lines with plastic at the same time. I noticed that the old lines were about 5 or 6 feet down and the new lines are at least 8, and maybe 10 feet down.
Joe69
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Now I feel bad about my post, complaining about thawing my water out again. I had mine thawed in a 2 or 3 hours. Hope you guys get yours working soon!
Joe
Joe