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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage

Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.

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Hi Jack,
Just spent some time going through this thread and found the name brand of the cabinets in post#238. Edsal is the brand. Thanks for telling it me it was in this thread somewhere. I enjoyed going through the thread again.

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Here's another one-hour project. Today's piece of it had to be under 30 minutes, since I'd promised to help my kid with something when he got home from school.

A couple of years ago, I broke my windshield by putting too much pressure on the rear-view mirror stalk while adusting a camera I have mounted there. I ruined the replacement during the last track day -- which is something you have to accept when you put your car in those kinds of situations. This week I took the windshield out and decided that before I'd replace it, I'd at least get something out of it -- making lemonade when life throws a lemon at your windshield.

So I welded a pair of tabs between the cage and the A pillars of the car. (That was the first 30 minutes.) There are already connecting points at the B pillars, but you can feel the gap between the cage and the car change if you put a finger in the right place. These old cars are very light, but they're also very flexible compared to modern cars.

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I've been using the same windshield guy for a long time. And I've never had a bad experience with him. But I opted to re-use the windshiled trim piece for a second time, and it finally reached a point where it wouldn't stay seated in the windshield seal. The problem is that these aluminum pieces are extremely sensitive to any bend at all. And because it's an old Porsche part, it's also $150 -- just for the metal trim pieces. (That's more than I paid for the windshield.)

So the old trim didn't work, and the windshield guy agreed to come back when I had a new set of trim pieces. That was fine, except the trim pieces arrived badly bent and had to go back. Then when the replacement set arrived, it was going to be five days before the guy could make it back out.

I put in the rear glass on the car. And I've been the assistant for the install of the front windshield. But these old cars are not very consistently shaped. And the trim is a huge headache. If it's flexed a few millimeters too much, it simply won't stay seated and you've got to write another $150 check.

But I'm impatient.

So today I took out the new trim and decided I'd try it. The job is usually a two-man deal, with one applying pressure from the outside while the other brings the lip of the inner seal into position. But once I got the trim to seat in the seal, I decided to just go for it and risk sinking another $150 into the job if I messed it up.

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There were a few moments of drama, getting it correctly positioned. But it worked fine.

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In fact, I was able to get the corners to hold the seal correctly, which I've never seen happen on my particular car.

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And the project with the kid? Based on a post on this board, we made a new version of a 'water blob,' which is a piece of clear sheet plastic sealed up with heat and filled with water.

Here's my son helping with the iron that's used to melt the edges of the plastic together.

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They love it. We put one on the back deck, initially. And then tried this new, thicker one in the front yard.

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That is some serious talent Jack on the windshield. I have replaced many on my 911 and friends and it is always a two person job, one pushing and one roping - and even then it requires a couple tries to get it to sit right. Those corners are tough like you pointed out, to sit "correctly"
 

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I'm suprised knowone is make a w/s weather strip without using the moulding aka VW :dunno: Dee engineering makes custom weather strips for VW maybe contact them :dunno:
 
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That is some serious talent Jack on the windshield. I have replaced many on my 911 and friends and it is always a two person job, one pushing and one roping - and even then it requires a couple tries to get it to sit right. Those corners are tough like you pointed out, to sit "correctly"

Thank you. Although, I think it might be safe to say I got lucky.

Jack.
You plan on supercharging it?
Wouldnt it be better to turbo or just keep it NA?

I've got no plans to do anything more to the engine. At least not until I run out of less-expensive options. Keeping the thing stock increases its chances of living a long life (at least, I hope it does).

Jack

Nice project for the kids. Nothing like having a very large outdoor water bed.

Ummm what's the weight limit on one of these??? I need it.
Thanks!

We've had the whole family on it with no explosions. It's 6 mil plastic. I'm still working on the best way to seal it to eliminate small leaks. It might not be something that my iron and skill set can accomplish, though. In the meantime, the lawn is getting some extra water. :)

I'm suprised knowone is make a w/s weather strip without using the moulding aka VW :dunno: Dee engineering makes custom weather strips for VW maybe contact them :dunno:

They do. The trim strip was dropped at some point in the 80's (I think), and the later seals make the job a lot easier. But I like the look of the chrome trim.
 

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Blimey Jack does your garage have its own press officer? Half a day after someone mentions your garage on an obscure UK Car Audio website I've been a member of for 10+ years (and a moderator of in the past) and you pop up as a new member to say hello and comment! I feel a little stalked!
 
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Water bed questions

Is it just normal plastic? No adhesive?

Is it refillable? Or do you fill and then seal shut?

I think when it originally appeared on the internet, the idea was to seal the two pieces of plastic together with duct tape. Then someone came up with the idea of using an iron (with parchment paper) to melt the two pieces to each other. This is what I did -- just folded it over and ironed it shut. But I have gotten small leaks along that seam. I think that unless you can get the heat very consistent (and just the right amount of heat), it's inevitable that you'll create thin/weak spots where a leak can form. I'm going to make one for my kid's school, and for that one I've just tested a pair of adhesives. The winner is a product called 'Amazing Goop.' which created a very strong seal on some test plastic in my 24-hour test.

To fill it, I cut a small opening for a hose, and then use duct tape to seal it off.

Blimey Jack does your garage have its own press officer? Half a day after someone mentions your garage on an obscure UK Car Audio website I've been a member of for 10+ years (and a moderator of in the past) and you pop up as a new member to say hello and comment! I feel a little stalked!

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A lot of times, people send me a link to a discussion that pops up, either of the car or the garage. In the case of the car audio site, I saw the name coming up over and over on an email I get from my web provider about the traffic to my site. It doesn't tell me anything other than the name of the forum where the link is, but I sometimes go to read what's being said and hopefully answer any questions people might have. I'm sure I miss most of them, but the notice for the car audio site came in while I was in the waiting room for the dentist.
 

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Hi Jack,

I found this thread / site almost a year ago and lost it until a couple of weeks ago, I'm very happy to have found it again! Your garage is an inspiration to get myself in gear to clean / re-do my own. I only have a small single car garage but I am working to make it a much more usable space. My wife and I moved here almost 1 year ago now and when we moved in it turned into a storage / junk space where I couldn't park a car, it has now turned into a space where I can park / work on a car (most the time lol) and hopefully do more, I've already made some modifications and I am in the process of doing more (building a sound resistant box for my compressor now as to not disturb my patient neighbours any more).

I hope to be around on here more now that I've set up an account and I just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration... my wife would probably give you a big thanks too!


Jason
 

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Hey Jack, I was looking through some of your old photos looking for the section where you were discussing how you insulated your garage door because it looks SO CLEAN, and I noticed your ball pein set hanging. Are those the 5 pc ball peins that HF sells? If so, how have they held up? Thanks!
 
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Thanks!

and yes, cagullett1, those are the HF hammers. I'm not using them for any kind of specialized/extreme use, so I've got no complaints about them at all. The nice thing about having them all up on the wall (as opposed to tangled up in a drawer) is that I'm more likely to grab the right size while I'm working instead of 'making do' with whichever one is sitting out on the bench.

And related to nothing, here are three pictures from a week ago's track day. I'm deciding what I think of the new tail lights. The home-made, bolt-on front and rear (and side) aero pieces only go on while I'm out on the track.

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And related to nothing, here are three pictures from a week ago's track day. I'm deciding what I think of the new tail lights. The home-made, bolt-on front and rear (and side) aero pieces only go on while I'm out on the track.

Relating to nothing is just great. I appreciate the pictures as much as everything else you post here. And I get ideas, as do most people who visit your thread.
 
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It has taken me just short of three months to get through the entire thread. What a fantastic read. What can be achieved through a little thought and ingenuity is incredible. And I have had the opportunity to learn and gain a new appreciation for some of the older Porsche models while doing so hahaha. I have many an individual page bookmarked from this thread alone. I think its safe to say I can blame Jack Olsen for the insomnia induced itch I now have to colour co-ordinate my workshop... "That's just brilliant, Rip it all out and Paint Everything!!!" Seriously though keep up the epic inspiration.
 
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I've thought about that event, Squankum. I think the bottom line is that you have to build/modify a car to that specific contest if you want to win it. And of course, you need to have some serious free time to compete the 10 events. And, as I see now, it's already started.

But maybe 2015?

Knyte Tyne, thanks for the kind words. I'm amazed that anyone can make it through all of this thread. But in some ways, it offers more of a 'slice of life' than the www.12-gaugegarage.com web site.

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A small milestone, today. I was swapping in a replacement master cylinder for the long-suffering Jeep, and my 5-year-old son was actually able to help -- pumping the brake pedal for the final bleeding.

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For what it's worth, I got one of these syringe thingies, and it makes bench-bleeding the master cylinder a LOT easier.

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Here's the kid showing he can reach the pedals without leaning forward in his seat. What's he doing in a pajama shirt at five in the evening? I have no idea. But to his credit, he was able to push and hold the pedal, on command.

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Not a miracle for most kids, I know. But THIS kid is kind of headstrong, like his old man. He's always willing to come out and bang on stuff -- but this was something where he had to listen to instructions and follow them. I wouldn't have been able to finish the job without his foot.

It only got out of control when he learned he could honk the horn -- which he thought was hilarious. But thankfully, we were done by then.
 

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I was helping my dad at 5. Between him being slow and not holding my interest, it wasn't much help. Fast forward 10 years and I was doing all the work and he was the one pushing the pedal.
As a sidenote, you can bleed the brakes yourself, alone. You just have to find the sweet spot where when you press, there is enough pressure to push out air and fluid but tight enough to not allow the vacuum to **** it in.
 

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It only got out of control when he learned he could honk the horn -- which he thought was hilarious. But thankfully, we were done by then.


Now all he has to do is work on his timing... just when dad has his head up and under something solid [or sharp]... one HONK!!!

You know it is coming Jack...
 

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My son used to help me bleed my brakes (complete with the horn thing). Fast forward about 8 years (19 years old) and he calls me at work wanting to know where to find the .... He needed it to bleed his brakes (had his buddy helping). He had never bled them before as far as I know just helped me a couple of times. I worried all afternoon at the mess I would find when I got home. When I got home he had bled the brakes and was ready to put the tires back on. He had questions about the "noise" coming from the back brakes (they're drum style). I had to help him pull the drums before he would believe me that they were fine.

Good going Dad. You got him started right.
 

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You just have to find the sweet spot where when you press, there is enough pressure to push out air and fluid but tight enough to not allow the vacuum to **** it in.

They make a tool for that, called Speed Bleeders. It is basically a replacement brake ****** with a one-way check valve built in. They won't work if you have just air in the cylinder, but once you get the fluid out there they work great.

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It probably makes sense to run the old fluid out all the way to the calipers, since I haven't done that in about 20 years on this car. But this was just bleeding at the connection to the master cylinder -- after bleeding the MC itself in a vise.
 

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Looks like a great helper. Those syringe's work terrifically, I just used one for the replacement of the M/C on my Camaro.
 

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Comedy basics: the horn thing is hilarious to your boy, and to us. Just not you.

(Mel Brooks: "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy ... comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.”)

Where do you get such a syringe?

I've gotten away without bench bleeding master cylinders. Is it an American car thing? I have used pressure bleeding for years, since I got my rinky dink Gunson's Eezi-Bleed.

I see the shop cart, all three shelves involved! To paraphrase the old DuPont commercial, "Without shop cart, life itself would be impossible." It is a tidy, mobile... place for your stuff. In fact, under Carlin's rules, the entire 12 Gauge Garage is definitely a place for your stuff.
 
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I'll admit, if I were watching it happen in the next yard over, it would have been funny.

I have to bleed the whole system on my Porsche pretty regularly. I've got a pressure bottle set up for it and the I've always used two different colors of fluid, so I can see when the old stuff is gone -- although I think ATE has been told they can't add coloring any more.

I haven't replaced a master cylinder in a long time, and I don't think I ever did on the 911. As I remember it, I got the air out of the replacement cylinder by looping a line over and back to the reservoir, then pumping the plunger with a piece of wood. This syringe thing is a lot faster, since you just draw a vacuum from the exit line plug and then clear out the air and push the fluid back into the reservoir until it's clear. I'm not sure why it's so much faster with the syringe -- maybe it's the ability to reverse the flow direction -- but it worked really fast. The syringe is expensive ($13 through Amazon) which is a lot when you're bleeding a new $20 master cylinder.

Which brings up an annoyance. Why is an MC for a 21-year-old Jeep only $20, while one for my 32-year-old Porsche would cost me at least 10X that? I know, it's a Porsche. But still, why are AMC Jeep parts so cheap?

And that
 

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Because Jeep used whatever parts they could that were already being made for another manufacturer. Hence, GM p/s pump and saginaw steering boxes. Probably a Ford master cylinder.
 

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VOLUME! VOLUME! VOLUME!

Master cylinder on my Golf is $20, too. Haw haw!

OTOH, it's a little cast iron booger. Is your Porsche master cylinder aluminum-bodied? And if not*, why aren't you getting a composite race cylinder? (Have I asked that before?)

e.g.
http://www.preciseracing.com/product.cfm?InvKey=28452

If there's a simple way to do plastic racy master cylinder on real 911's I'm sure it's been done 293 times before...
 
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Thanks! The Fuchs used to be 6x16s. But to make these wheels, the centers were cut out and Tig welded into one-piece barrels that are 9-1/2x17 in front and 11x17 in back.
 

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Thanks! The Fuchs used to be 6x16s. But to make these wheels, the centers were cut out and Tig welded into one-piece barrels that are 9-1/2x17 in front and 11x17 in back.

I knew something was different! I used to have a polished set of 15's on my 944 Turbo, and my Father has had them on all of his 911's. I saw Lindsey Racing has some ridiculous widths and they have have an RSR similar to yours with them on. You might have seen it it excellence magazine. They are my favorite wheel of all time and will always be my first choice on all air-cooled Porsches and VW's! I have been saving up for a couple years, When I move back to FL this year I'm buying an mid 80's 911, I would like to slap a duck tail on it and an older Carrera kit for one similar to yours.
 

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Jack as a parts man behind the counter of a european specialty parts store i often ask myself why on prices of some of the parts for all the euro cars
 
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