The 320 yard pour begins

[4 FN 27]

What spacing for control and construction joints ?

8 x 8 squares for the most part. It will get a little funky in the radius corners.

If he figures 320, you figure 420 and are willing to pay for the extra 100 yards right now, if you don't need it, can you send half of it my way ? Somebody else can have the other 50 yards.

The place looks great and keeps getting better all the time.

It is in the budget but you will have to take care of transportation!!!

Thank you!!!

Looking pretty good. Hopefully you can get it all poured and cured. 8 Years for the base...I'd think its as settled as its gonna get.

What part of the state are you in?

Got 106 yards down today. They used a "Curing Agent"...not sure what but because of the size of the pour the Concrete supplier had an Engineer and Quality Tech on site for the morning pour and afternoon pour. My buddy is the plant manager for the supplier and he helped make that happen.

East Metro between White Bear Lake and Stillwater.

 

[4 FN 27]

46 yards on the lower drive this afternoon.

They will be back tomorrow afternoon to get everything ready for the pour of the other half in front of the shop.

 

[bp460]

Thank you for taking the time to share your project. How wide is the lower drive directly under the caution tape in the pic above?

-Brad

 

[4 FN 27]

Thank you for taking the time to share your project. How wide is the lower drive directly under the caution tape in the pic above?

-Brad

No problem. 12 Feet

 

[RTcat]

LOL...no go carts but we do ride vintage sleds from my place...even at -15°.

Nice! 634 with those Montana pipes?

Restored this a couple winters back. Had sat for 30+ years in a shed. Motor was locked up and I had to get the cylinders re-nickaslied. Was fun little project.

You worried about carbide marks across the new concrete?

 

[bcradio]

I guess nobody wants to ask... well I have no shame in doing so

How much $$ for everything?

Looking great so far.

 

[WWShop]

I guess nobody wants to ask... well I have no shame in doing so

How much $$ for everything?

Looking great so far.

This is the first thought that went through my head. Looks awesome and gonna be a great addition.

 

[4 FN 27]

Nice! 634 with those Montana pipes?

Restored this a couple winters back. Had sat for 30+ years in a shed. Motor was locked up and I had to get the cylinders re-nickaslied. Was fun little project.

You worried about carbide marks across the new concrete?

Not going to lie to you, that is a 340 under the hood...cobbled up sled I picked up off CL just to get the pipes. Going to build it into a Retro Hill-Climber. 141 Skid & Springer front end. Ape Hangers...just need to find the time once I get the building and the property up to snuff.

I guess nobody wants to ask... well I have no shame in doing so

How much $$ for everything?

Looking great so far.

Shame on you...LOL...Let's just say it is less than the cost of the building, more than the cost of my first town house 35 years ago and to me personally an investment into a goal I set for myself a very long time ago.

My Wife and I back in high school would drive that area and I always said someday I am going to have 10 acres out here go up in a helicopter and drop a bucket of red paint and that is where the sliding glass doors are going on the shop.

25 years later I stopped to help an 86 year old woman and her husband with a car on a cold windy rainy day. Once they were mobile again I asked how much land they had and if it was for sale??? They said they would like to sell it, gave me a price and I ask them if they would take a check. It was a done deal 2 months later. They got what they wanted for a property that needed a lot of work. I hauled 23500 lbs of scrap off the property a long with 110 cubic yards of concrete block and 86 cars tires. Burnt the old house down, the attic had bat chit 2 feet deep. they did not have running water until 1996 and heated with wood until then too. It was a mess.

Build the new house in 2008-2009 and built the shop in 2015 and I am still moving in.

Cost wise you can do the math based on rough estimates and come to a conclusion but I will refrain from the actual amount as I've worked hard to reach this goal and every goal a long the way. I have been blessed beyond my wildest dreams. I just hope someday someone else gets to enjoy my investment and desire.

 

[Arps]

Thats an awesome story. Are there some before during and after pics?

 

[ErickForest]

East Metro between White Bear Lake and Stillwater.

You aren't too far from me then. I'm in Pine Springs

 

[NUTTSGT]

Not going to lie to you, that is a 340 under the hood...cobbled up sled I picked up off CL just to get the pipes. Going to build it into a Retro Hill-Climber. 141 Skid & Springer front end. Ape Hangers...just need to find the time once I get the building and the property up to snuff.



Shame on you...LOL...Let's just say it is less than the cost of the building, more than the cost of my first town house 35 years ago and to me personally an investment into a goal I set for myself a very long time ago.

My Wife and I back in high school would drive that area and I always said someday I am going to have 10 acres out here go up in a helicopter and drop a bucket of red paint and that is where the sliding glass doors are going on the shop.

25 years later I stopped to help an 86 year old woman and her husband with a car on a cold windy rainy day. Once they were mobile again I asked how much land they had and if it was for sale??? They said they would like to sell it, gave me a price and I ask them if they would take a check. It was a done deal 2 months later. They got what they wanted for a property that needed a lot of work. I hauled 23500 lbs of scrap off the property a long with 110 cubic yards of concrete block and 86 cars tires. Burnt the old house down, the attic had bat chit 2 feet deep. they did not have running water until 1996 and heated with wood until then too. It was a mess.

Build the new house in 2008-2009 and built the shop in 2015 and I am still moving in.

Cost wise you can do the math based on rough estimates and come to a conclusion but I will refrain from the actual amount as I've worked hard to reach this goal and every goal a long the way. I have been blessed beyond my wildest dreams. I just hope someday someone else gets to enjoy my investment and desire.

Did you take or do you have pics of it as you were clearing and cleaning up the property ?

 

[Caparris]

Sub'd

 

[rustyjames]

That's a handsome place you have. And I also agree, the concrete is the way to go.

 

[38Chevy454]

Very nice shop and office area. Your new driveway will be great once finished. Do you have bigger trucks to haul your finished product coming through where the 6 inch pour depth will help against the heavier loads?

If you don't mind asking, what type of equipment and fabrication do you do in the working side? Sounds like some type stamping and/or forming operations?

Congratulations on realizing the dream for the land and shop, and the hard work paying off.

 

[C_F]

Cool story! I'd like to see before & after pics too, if you have some. Your story sounds similar to Thomas' 1930's auto shop story.

Looking forward to more updates!

 

[4 FN 27]

Nice! 634 with those Montana pipes?

Restored this a couple winters back. Had sat for 30+ years in a shed. Motor was locked up and I had to get the cylinders re-nickaslied. Was fun little project.

You worried about carbide marks across the new concrete?

Forgot to mention nice Sled!!! Some day I would like to have a 71 EXT...

We will be dollying them across the Crete. No exceptions.

 

[ddawg16]

$100/yd....320 yds.....$32K just for concrete.

At least $10k for labor....

Maybe you got a break on concrete....

But I'm going to guess a little under $50K. If the guy was 'hungry' and the concrete was cheaper....around $40K

 

[4 FN 27]

Thats an awesome story. Are there some before during and after pics?

See below...this is the best I can do from my office at work. I have ton's of pics but they are on my home computer. That was back before I had a cell phone camera.

You aren't too far from me then. I'm in Pine Springs

You are right down the road from me.

Very nice shop and office area. Your new driveway will be great once finished. Do you have bigger trucks to haul your finished product coming through where the 6 inch pour depth will help against the heavier loads?

If you don't mind asking, what type of equipment and fabrication do you do in the working side? Sounds like some type stamping and/or forming operations?

Congratulations on realizing the dream for the land and shop, and the hard work paying off.

Don't have any heavy trucks other than a 54000 lbs Motor Home and a few Trailers. I just don't like cracks.

As far as equipment goes my Brother and I own a Precision Sheet Metal Fabrication Shop. 110000 square feet of the latest and greatest technology in fabrication with 90+ awesome employees that make it happen. We also work in the business daily each putting in whatever it takes...10-16 hours per day is kind of the norm. As we age we are trying to back it down but I guess when you are having fun and surrounded by great people the long days seem short.

I am putting my shop together so I can build anything that I can do at work. Just nice spending the time in the backyard verses living at the office or in the plant. Plus my Wife appreciates me being home. For the first 20 years we were married I was at work from 6 am to 10 pm 6-7 days a week unless I was on the road Drag racing (retired from that in 2012). Now I am home on the weekends and most evenings by 6-7 pm. Doesn't leave much time to play in the home shop but I find time and knock a project out here and there.

So far the equipment in house:

35+ year tool collection
TIG and Mig Welders
LaBlond Lathe
Bridgeport Mill
Ellis 2000 Saw
Accupress Press Brake 60 ton 6 foot
Sharp VMC 24-14 Mill
Sand Blaster
Rotary Hoist
Grinding and Metal finishing equipment
Bobcat
John Deere TLB 110
John Deere 3720
John Deere X749
A few Stihl Chainsaws

Yet to get: Shear and Laser or Hi Def Plasma or Water Jet and trade in the Accupress on a multi axis Amada Brake.

I have no regrets other than if I had it all to do again I would do it with a little more enthusiasm.

I need to bite the bullet and put together a build thread. It is on the to do list.

The before from Google earth:

The after (Drone Shot from my buddy):

 

[NUTTSGT]

I'd like to make a couple suggestions, put a link to your shop build in your signature and if you want, I can merge this thread with your build thread if you like.

 

[Terrick down Under]

You would not want to pay for that much concrete down here, AUD$51000, for your driveway, whew, that's way out of my budget. We mixed all our 39 cubic meters (51yds) of core fill for the ICF walls to get it down to AU$75/m instead of AU$210/m.

 

[4 FN 27]

$100/yd....320 yds.....$32K just for concrete.

At least $10k for labor....

Maybe you got a break on concrete....

But I'm going to guess a little under $50K. If the guy was 'hungry' and the concrete was cheaper....around $40K

Wink Wink. Do not go into the concrete business. At those rates you won't last long...just say'in. However if you gave me that bid and did the same amount of work with the same level of quality I would be all smiles at your expense...again just say'in.

 

[4 FN 27]

I'd like to make a couple suggestions, put a link to your shop build in your signature and if you want, I can merge this thread with your build thread if you like.

I'll sort through some pics when I get home tonight. I'll start a build thread from scratch. OK to start from the beginning with the House? After all my Wife built the house around my Garage. I had it laid out and designed in about 4 hours. Took her 9 months to design the house using cardboard cutouts and pictures out of "home magazines".

 

[NUTTSGT]

If you want, you have a "My Shop" thread already started, you can go from there, I can merge this thread into that one. Any threads that get merged with start with chronological order on the posts. It's up to you man, it's all good, I'm just here to help you (and everybody else) out and admire it.

If you need a title change, I can do that no sweat too.

 

[383]

Thanks for sharing with us, you have an awesome set-up for sure. You have worked hard for it, hope you can find the time to enjoy it.

 

[C_F]

I really like the drone shot you posted, that's a really beautiful area you have there!

 

[4 FN 27]

If you want, you have a "My Shop" thread already started, you can go from there, I can merge this thread into that one. Any threads that get merged with start with chronological order on the posts. It's up to you man, it's all good, I'm just here to help you (and everybody else) out and admire it.

If you need a title change, I can do that no sweat too.

I appreciate it!!! Thank you...once I find a block of time I will advise.

Thanks for sharing with us, you have an awesome set-up for sure. You have worked hard for it, hope you can find the time to enjoy it.

Thank you. I'll find the time. I have an exit plan. Just need to figure out when to pull the trigger.

I really like the drone shot you posted, that's a really beautiful area you have there!

Hard to believe in the Twin Cities metro there is still very limited spaces like this. I am less than 5 minutes from everything and less than 5 minutes from nothing. A couple of weeks ago I had to stop to let a couple of horses cross the road.

Hopefully it won't be short lived. The Met Council is pressuring all of the metro to go to City Water and Sewer. Then they have 100% control. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and social engineering. I like my place in the country and I will not give it up.

70 more yard poured today. Saw cutting tomorrow. Pouring again on Monday due to 60% chance of rain on Saturday. They don't want to saw cut in the rain.

 

[HemiRamOn22s]

Beautiful place! Looks like they are doing a nice job for you!

Its about $1 SQ FT for labor around here at least thats what i pay. And around $100 CY for 4500 lb mix. The rebar etc, another 1-2k. Right around $50,000 would get the job done. I have about 200 CY between my shop and house. My concrete guy loves me. He is about to come back and do a stamped concrete sidewalk in the front and rear and a large patio area. Some guys charge as much as $130 CY and $2-3 SF for labor. Thankfully i have an account at the concrete plant.

 

[4 FN 27]

Thankfully i have an account at the concrete plant.

So do I...

 

[MacTexas]

Nice looking place. Long ago I was talking with someone from Minnesota. He said this "California is the girl you want to take out but Minnesota is the one you want to marry". Looking at the drone shot of your property, he was right.

 

[larry_g]

He is about to come back and do a stamped concrete sidewalk in the front and rear and a large patio area. .

I did the above stamped concrete a few years back and would not do this pattern again. Being in farm country with lots of dust about all the small pockets in the texture gather dust, then water, and then mud. So I would suggest that you consider the texture you use so it does not become a maintenance issue like mine.

lg
no neat sig line

 

[GLTHFJ60]

That's an enormous amount of concrete!! Beautiful.

 

[C_F]

Hard to believe in the Twin Cities metro there is still very limited spaces like this. I am less than 5 minutes from everything and less than 5 minutes from nothing. A couple of weeks ago I had to stop to let a couple of horses cross the road.

Hopefully it won't be short lived. The Met Council is pressuring all of the metro to go to City Water and Sewer. Then they have 100% control. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and social engineering. I like my place in the country and I will not give it up.

That's pretty much how it's gone in my rapidly expanding little town in the 17 years I've been here. My house is roughly 35 SW of Salt Lake City, and urban sprawl is the name of the game! I swear, every year they put up two more traffic lights along my commute route. It is time to pull up stakes soon & get the hell outta Dodge!

 

[PLOWJEEP]

More than once,While reading your threads. I've heard you praise your employees. Good for you and good for them for earning your respect. Sounds like a great place to work. Continued success , Brian

 

[Wanna Ride]

Wow... that's lots of work. But looks damn-nice, and will serve you even nicer.
But concrete is the best, long-term decision. Regardless of what others think.
Best thing I ever did on my property, was put down all my concrete for the sidewalks and parking.

I'm sorry, but when someone says they'd rather not discuss price/costs, and others insist on figuring it out (particularly in a public conversation), I just think that's disrespectful and rude.

 

[bear40]

...
Hopefully it won't be short lived. The Met Council is pressuring all of the metro to go to City Water and Sewer. Then they have 100% control. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and social engineering. I like my place in the country and I will not give it up.
...

He's not kidding about being forced into water and sewer. I live 5 miles south of 4 FN 27, in a small town where I've lived my whole life. Tonight I have 4 huge excavators parked in front of my house that have been tearing up our town for water and sewer. My assessments for this work will be close to $40,000. The restaurant down the street will be around $500,000. I drive by the OP's place at least once a week as my micro-welder guy lives/works right up the road from him. It really is a beautiful area and what I can see of his building from the road is spectacular!

 

[4 FN 27]

He's not kidding about being forced into water and sewer. I live 5 miles south of 4 FN 27, in a small town where I've lived my whole life. Tonight I have 4 huge excavators parked in front of my house that have been tearing up our town for water and sewer. My assessments for this work will be close to $40,000. The restaurant down the street will be around $500,000. I drive by the OP's place at least once a week as my micro-welder guy lives/works right up the road from him. It really is a beautiful area and what I can see of his building from the road is spectacular!

bear I was in Lake Elmo last night getting some off road fuel...unbelievable is all I can say!!! The Main Drag is completely tore up. Man I hope they don't do this to our little place in the country but I have feeling it is coming.

You'll need to stop in...

 

[4 FN 27]

One more pour in the books. Coming down the home stretch. Tomorrow morning at 7 am the last 100 yards!!!

They got 102 more down today...hope it is cured enough looks like the storms are rolling in.

My buddy has been doing a photo shoot of the pours along with a little Droning. I'll post a link once he gets the hours and hours of pics and video edited. Could take a while...

 

[LXCam]

Awesome. So where are you at on your estimate for yardage?

 

[4 FN 27]

Awesome. So where are you at on your estimate for yardage?

358 yards so far (includes concrete need for this afternoon)...I think my Cad Model needs to be adjusted and his Wheel needs to be calibrated

Coming down the home stretch...should be done around 8 pm tonight I hope. The 1 agenizing week of no driving on the driveway.

 

[HemiRamOn22s]

i would trust your autocad model over his wheel. Just add up the delivery tickets and use a little math.