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[burleyfarm]

Thanks for the recommendation..... I just ordered 14 of these from Prolighting.

Rebird
You got lucky. I just called Prolighting for advice and a quote and they told me they are sold out of the Maxlite and will not be carrying the product anymore due to Maxlite cost increases. They are now recommending a Techbrite product.


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[Rebird]

Rebird
You got lucky. I just called Prolighting for advice and a quote and they told me they are sold out of the Maxlite and will not be carrying the product anymore due to Maxlite cost increases. They are now recommending a Techbrite product.


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The lights should be in tomorrow..... Fingers crossed! Thanks T

 

[SkeeterZX200]

Has anyone used this fixture before?

https://www.prolighting.com/commercial-lighting/fixtures-high-low-bay-high-bays.html

I am looking at putting these in my 30x60x14.

 

[mstgkillr]

I have a 21x33 garage with 8ft ceilings that has been prewired for (4) fixtures. Would (4) 48" 2 Lamp LED fixtures be sufficient or should I go with (4) 96" 4 Lamp LED fixtures? If the latter, any recommendations?

 

[burleyfarm]

I have a 21x33 garage with 8ft ceilings that has been prewired for (4) fixtures. Would (4) 48" 2 Lamp LED fixtures be sufficient or should I go with (4) 96" 4 Lamp LED fixtures? If the latter, any recommendations?

Mstgkillr
Contact prolighting.com and after a few questions they will provide you a fixture layout free of charge. The number of fixtures will depend on your intended use and the amount of light that requires. Here is one of the options they gave me for the same size +\-.


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[BentBierz]

Does anyone have a good source for a 3-bulb LED fixture (w/ or w/o bulbs)? Platonic Solid suggested this one (http://tinyurl.com/yycfew52) in answer to a previous post but Pro Lighting wants close to $200 to ship 30 of them. I want to exhaust other sources before I throw down that much for shipping. Thanks.

 

[Terry2T]

Looking for a recommendation on a 110W 2 ft. High Bay LED light. I need 24 of them. I don't know the difference in quality from the manufacturers. Or are they all pretty similar? I was looking at James Industries, but can't seem to find them anywhere now.

Here's what I am looking at:

GreenLightDepot.com - 2ft LED Linear High Bay - Frosted Lens - 110W - Cable Mounting - Gen 3 - (UL+DLC) for $74.99 each.

ledlightingwholesaleinc.com - Alphalite Slim Linear LED High Bay, 2 Foot, 110 Watt, 5000K, Dimmable for $102.70 each.

Homedepot.com - Envirolight - 138-Watt 2 ft. White Integrated LED Backlit High Bay Hanging Light with 18,000 Lumens, 5000K for $89.97 each

Thanks for the help.

 

[Toomanytools?]

Does anyone have a good source for a 3-bulb LED fixture (w/ or w/o bulbs)? Platonic Solid suggested this one (http://tinyurl.com/yycfew52) in answer to a previous post but Pro Lighting wants close to $200 to ship 30 of them. I want to exhaust other sources before I throw down that much for shipping. Thanks.

Techbrite is a good brand from what I have heard. Did you talk with someone there? Sometimes they will waive the shipping even with the 48" rule, if your spending $1700 they might.

 

[cybrdyke]

Has anyone used this fixture before?

https://www.prolighting.com/commercial-lighting/fixtures-high-low-bay-high-bays.html

I am looking at putting these in my 30x60x14.

All the time. Except I use double end powered. Good quality from TechBrite.
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[BentBierz]

Techbrite is a good brand from what I have heard. Did you talk with someone there? Sometimes they will waive the shipping even with the 48" rule, if your spending $1700 they might.

Good point...I haven't so I will have to give them a call to see what they have to say.

 

[THP]

bulletpruf - Suggest using TechBrite 3-lamp 8000 Lumen fixtures[/URL] (link) at your height.

Platonic, I'm in s similar boat as bulletpruf. I have a 24x40x12 garage. Two bays are for cars, one bay for woodworking/metal work. Your typical welder, bandsaw, miter station, etc in the shop side. I have no ceiling now, but the walls will get white paint on OSB.

I'd be thrilled if you could show me a good layout pattern for these TechBrite lights

 

[FTG-05]

Looking for a recommendation on a 110W 2 ft. High Bay LED light. I need 24 of them. I don't know the difference in quality from the manufacturers. Or are they all pretty similar? I was looking at James Industries, but can't seem to find them anywhere now.

Here's what I am looking at:

GreenLightDepot.com - 2ft LED Linear High Bay - Frosted Lens - 110W - Cable Mounting - Gen 3 - (UL+DLC) for $74.99 each.

ledlightingwholesaleinc.com - Alphalite Slim Linear LED High Bay, 2 Foot, 110 Watt, 5000K, Dimmable for $102.70 each.

Homedepot.com - Envirolight - 138-Watt 2 ft. White Integrated LED Backlit High Bay Hanging Light with 18,000 Lumens, 5000K for $89.97 each

Thanks for the help.

I have three of these Green Light Depot 110 watt LED High Bay lights. Excellent lights in my opinion. I plan to buy another 2 later this month.

https://greenlightdepot.com/collect...0w-with-lens-and-w-o-lens?variant=36041819012

 

[lazyriverrat]

Looking for a recommendation on a 110W 2 ft. High Bay LED light. I need 24 of them. I don't know the difference in quality from the manufacturers. Or are they all pretty similar? I was looking at James Industries, but can't seem to find them anywhere now.



Here's what I am looking at:



GreenLightDepot.com - 2ft LED Linear High Bay - Frosted Lens - 110W - Cable Mounting - Gen 3 - (UL+DLC) for $74.99 each.



ledlightingwholesaleinc.com - Alphalite Slim Linear LED High Bay, 2 Foot, 110 Watt, 5000K, Dimmable for $102.70 each.



Homedepot.com - Envirolight - 138-Watt 2 ft. White Integrated LED Backlit High Bay Hanging Light with 18,000 Lumens, 5000K for $89.97 each



Thanks for the help.

Just installed 12 of the Green Lights, very happy with them, 42x48 14 ft ceiling


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[burleyfarm]

So I went with ProLighting.com for my T-8 fixtures for my new garage renovation. This is a spec house and the builder only installed two light bulb sockets for a three car garage. [emoji15]. Electrical work is first on the list of projects.

Based upon Platonic Solid and his advice in this Topic I contacted ProLighting.com and spoke to Marissa regarding a layout plan for my garage and specific needs. Over a coupled emails we decided on the proper fixture layout with the correct number of fixtures and spacing measurements including an analysis of foot candles.

This is the fixture I choose (TechBrite) as they no longer stock the MaxLite fixture. It includes the GLL lamps.
https://www.prolighting.com/t442ssubcxx00p0-18w5k.html

I ordered these Thursday morning and they were delivered early Friday afternoon. Packaging was excellent with no damage to either fixtures or lamps. Installation is very straightforward.

Lighting is a drastic improvement over what was here. Although I’ve only installed half the lights so far I’m very pleased with the quality of the TechBrite fixture and GLL lamps.

Eight fixtures with lamps, shipping, tax and the GJ discount was just under $324.

Here are a few pictures. Sorry about the low quality pictures.


I hope this information helps someone else. Thanks for this great Topic Platonic Solid.


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[Kangaroo ID]

Looking for a recommendation on a 110W 2 ft. High Bay LED light. I need 24 of them. I don't know the difference in quality from the manufacturers. Or are they all pretty similar? I was looking at James Industries, but can't seem to find them anywhere now.

Here's what I am looking at:



Homedepot.com - Envirolight - 138-Watt 2 ft. White Integrated LED Backlit High Bay Hanging Light with 18,000 Lumens, 5000K for $89.97 each

Thanks for the help.

I am also curious how these home depot lights stack up. Any one done a comparison yet? I saw them in the store last week they look like good quality

 

[mstgkillr]

Mstgkillr
Contact prolighting.com and after a few questions they will provide you a fixture layout free of charge. The number of fixtures will depend on your intended use and the amount of light that requires. Here is one of the options they gave me for the same size +\-.


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Thanks for the help!

 

[mstgkillr]

I have a 21x33 garage with 8ft ceilings that has been prewired for (4) fixtures. Would (4) 48" 2 Lamp LED fixtures be sufficient or should I go with (4) 96" 4 Lamp LED fixtures? If the latter, any recommendations?

I'm only going to do (4) fixtures, spaced evenly, since that is all that my garage was prewired for. After measuring, I have to stay with a 48" fixtures, but should I do a 2 or 3 lamp LED fixture?

Maxlite 48" 2 Lamp LED Ready Utility Strip
https://www.prolighting.com/lss2xt8use4803.html

OR

TechBrite 48" 3 Lamp LED T8 Strip Fixture
https://www.prolighting.com/t443ssubcxx00p0.html

 

[burleyfarm]

mstgkillr
Here’s a link to the TechBrite three lamp fixture with lamps. Price does not include tax, shipping or GJ discount. The three lamp would definitely give you more foot candles. Best bet is to call Prolighting and they can provide a layout with fc calculation.

Marissa Colón
Sales
Toll Free: 877-852-9373 ext. 106
Direct: 810-772-4664
7060 Kensington Rd. | Brighton, MI 48116


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[Platonic Solid]

mstgkillr - I would add more fixtures and stay with 2-Lamp. Just run power from fixture to fixture - unless you find exposed conduit unacceptable. Heck, I would just run exposed romex, but that's just me.

 

[mstgkillr]

mstgkillr - I would add more fixtures and stay with 2-Lamp. Just run power from fixture to fixture - unless you find exposed conduit unacceptable. Heck, I would just run exposed romex, but that's just me.

I may add more fixtures down the road, but I'm not sure how much they would actually help. I live in SW Florida, so I almost always have the garage doors open when I'm working on something. So spacing in the post above, 4 fixtures would be covered by the garage door.

No matter what, it's going to be better than the two 100 w bulbs that I had before.

 

[mstgkillr]

mstgkillr - I would add more fixtures and stay with 2-Lamp. Just run power from fixture to fixture - unless you find exposed conduit unacceptable. Heck, I would just run exposed romex, but that's just me.

Ok, so the contractor just called and I need the fixtures dropped off at the house by Tuesday evening. Is there anything from Amazon, Home Depot, or Lowe's that is at least equal to the Maxlite?

 

[MeentSS02]

Perhaps someone can chime in here, since I appear to be having a bit of an issue with a recent ProLighting.com order.

I just got done installing 20 of the MaxLite fixtures linked on the first page. I installed 40 of the GLL T8 LEDs (4,000K) also linked on the first page, and out of those 40, one was bad. I get it, stuff happens. I also recently placed an order for an additional 4 of the GLL tubes to install in 2 fixtures inside my house. I ended up looking very closely at what I was just sent, which should have been identical, but they were NOT.

Part # of what I originally ordered: 56-t8al-120-18w-40k-f-b

Part # of what they just sent me: edi-apt8-4f16-ab

The specs are similar, but they are not the same bulbs. The only reason it drew my attention was because they have a slight delay when you turn them on, which the GLL bulbs do not. It isn't the end of the world, but stuff like that bothers me.

Was this an oversight by ProLighting, or did they just switch suppliers? I intend to call them Monday and get to the bottom of this...I ordered GLL tubes, and I expected to be sent GLL tubes, not ones from EDI.

 

[Platonic Solid]

I ordered GLL tubes, and I expected to be sent GLL tubes, not ones from EDI.

I agree 100%. The EDI bulb may be a fine bulb, but that is not what ProLighting is advertising (link) for $8.99. A quick Google search of the EDI bulb shows it can be purchased from lightup.com for $5.95 (link). Spec and certification wise both bulbs appear very similar. Do your EDI bulbs have rotating end caps as the Lightup add states? The EDI bulb may be a viable budget contender at the $5.95 price as long as we are aware of the power On delay up-front.

 

[burleyfarm]

Please let us know the outcome. I just checked what Prolighting sent me last week and see that they are the same lamps (EDI) they sent you in your second order. Not the GLL as what was quoted. I noticed the split second delay and being unfamiliar with LED fixtures thought that was normal. Now I am second guessing my shipment. I think I’ll be calling also but will wait to hear about your experience. I have to admit however these babies are bright.



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[MeentSS02]

I agree 100%. The EDI bulb may be a fine bulb, but that is not what ProLighting is advertising (link) for $8.99. A quick Google search of the EDI bulb shows it can be purchased from lightup.com for $5.95 (link). Spec and certification wise both bulbs appear very similar. Do your EDI bulbs have rotating end caps as the Lightup add states? The EDI bulb may be a viable budget contender at the $5.95 price as long as we are aware of the power On delay up-front.

The EDI bulbs do not have the rotating end caps. Each end has a single fastener, but in a different location than the GLL bulbs. There are some other subtle differences, but I didn't notice any of those differences at first glance. It was only after I noticed the extra 1/2 second delay in turning on that I investigated further. As far as I can tell, the color and light output are nearly identical.

Please let us know the outcome. I just checked what Prolighting sent me last week and see that they are the same lamps (EDI) they sent you in your second order. Not the GLL as what was quoted. I noticed the split second delay and being unfamiliar with LED fixtures thought that was normal. Now I am second guessing my shipment. I think I’ll be calling also but will wait to hear about your experience. I have to admit however these babies are bright.

I will let you know, but likely not until Monday evening after I get home from work. I do intend to call them tomorrow morning, and will figure this out ASAP. A 30% price difference is a pretty big deal since I have 44 of these things now.

 

[MeentSS02]

Please let us know the outcome.

So I was able to talk to one of the sales reps at ProLighting.com today. To their credit, they were very courteous, and the guy I was talking to was aware of the issue.

Bottom line: it is a supplier issue. The sales rep indicated that GLL was experiencing quite a few failures similar to mine (dead on arrival), and they were going to be switching over to the EDI bulbs from here on out. Aside from the turn-on delay, the bulbs are pretty much identical as far as the form factor and light output goes.

They were going to try to source a GLL bulb to replace the one of mine that didn't work, but they weren't optimistic since we've done a pretty good job of cleaning them out. Due to that, I will likely have to accept an EDI bulb in its place. Not a huge deal, but just be aware when either seeking a warranty replacement for a GLL bulb or replacing one outright. If you mix and match the brands in a fixture that uses multiple bulbs, you will notice the turn-on delay of the EDI vs. the GLL bulb. As previously stated, it is about 0.5 seconds.

Hope that helps.

 

[burleyfarm]

So I was able to talk to one of the sales reps at ProLighting.com today. To their credit, they were very courteous, and the guy I was talking to was aware of the issue.



Bottom line: it is a supplier issue. The sales rep indicated that GLL was experiencing quite a few failures similar to mine (dead on arrival), and they were going to be switching over to the EDI bulbs from here on out. Aside from the turn-on delay, the bulbs are pretty much identical as far as the form factor and light output goes.



They were going to try to source a GLL bulb to replace the one of mine that didn't work, but they weren't optimistic since we've done a pretty good job of cleaning them out. Due to that, I will likely have to accept an EDI bulb in its place. Not a huge deal, but just be aware when either seeking a warranty replacement for a GLL bulb or replacing one outright. If you mix and match the brands in a fixture that uses multiple bulbs, you will notice the turn-on delay of the EDI vs. the GLL bulb. As previously stated, it is about 0.5 seconds.



Hope that helps.

Thanks for letting us know.


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[Platonic Solid]

MeentSS02 - Then they need to fix that page on their website. I purchased 1200 of the GLL bulbs direct from GLL last Oct. Haven't had any issues yet.

 

[Hunduh]

I’ve read and searched and read some more. I wanted to light my small workshop/ workbench area (8’ wide x 18’ long with 9’ high Sheetrock ceiling) with LED high hats but now I understand that highhats **** so I might just put a few directly over my built in 10’ (Steevo) workbench.

After looking around , I think I want to do a surface mounted light like this light.

https://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/LEDPNL2x4-70W-K-p/ledpnl2x4-70w-k.htm


Here’s another one that claims 7800 Lumens

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N9RZB3M/ref=twister_B07G4SM3PD?_encoding=UTF8&th=1






I only have a 9’ high ceiling in this portion of my garage and this is where my toolboxes and workbench are located. This is also where I hang out at night to get away from the family and do man stuff.

I would rather not do the tube lights if I can avoid it. This is a finished area of the garage and I would like to keep this part of the garage looking ‘finished’.


Does this type of edge lit flat panel (5000k) led light produce enough light to put over a work area? Other than cost, how does this light differ from a 4’ LED tube light? So many brands available.....are any more reputable than the others?


Keep in mind the room is only about 7-8 feet wide due to walls of tool boxes, refrigerators and cabinets to the 9’ ceiling.

 

[pbon]

You could do the 2x4 panels with a surface mount kit. You could also do 1x4 panels. A few of the flat panels can be surface mounted without a kit but most require a frame that adds about $20 to the price. I needed 30 lights so I crossed the panels off the list.

There are also LED wrap lights so you don’t have bare bulbs. I use the James 5000k 5400L version, surface mounted them in my finished garage and run them off several dimmer switches so I can have softer lighting if I want. You have to run extra cable for the dimmer and it must be the same voltage rating if it goes into the same box.

I also looked at LED cans. There are many that are insulation rated and I found fine 8 or 9” ones that gave 2000L. But I would have needed at least twice as many and that seemed like a pain to install and wire.

 

[Hunduh]

It’s a small area and there really aren’t going to be many lights so cost is not so much a factor for me. Even if I have to buy the surface mount frames - not a big deal. Were only talking 2 or 3 of these 2x4 flat panels in total. What I’m more concerned with is that they put off enough quality light to light up my workspace.

 

[MeentSS02]

Aside from the turn-on delay, the bulbs are pretty much identical as far as the form factor and light output goes.

Quick follow-up - I've been living with the EDI tubes in a couple of rooms in my house, and the turn on delay is annoying AF. Pretty much every LED in my house is instant on with the flip of a switch, but not these. I was hoping I'd get used to it, but so far, I haven't, and it might drive me to look at other options for those locations.

 

[TTMotorsports]

Quick question for you guys. I'm building 50x80x16 building. Going to go with 2 or 4 ft linear high bays. Now would you recommend going with less lights at higher lumen per light fixture, or slightly lower lumen with a few more fixtures. I'm thinking more fixtures and less lumen each would be less likely to create shadows and give more even lighting. Am i thinking correctly here?

Also anyone have a link to lighting layout program that doesn't **** and can actually work based off info I input about certain lights i have found.

Thanks

 

[Platonic Solid]

TTMotorsports - Your thinking is accurate, but you also want to take into consideration where garage doors are located (unless they're the roll up style) and intended vehicle, lift and equipment placement.

You need an IES file to do a layout. You can select a similar fixture and make assumptions/adjustments for lumen output. Keep in mind that just because 2 fixtures have similar lumen output doesn't mean they have the same beam spread.

Not sure what you consider unacceptable for a lighting layout program. There's the Visual Photometric Tool (linked to basic instructions) and Dialux Evo (Free Professional software with steep learning curve).

 

[PNWguy]

Has anybody seen a linkable LED ready 4' T8 fixture?

I'll be putting them into a new construction (32 x 40) and the contractor recommended linked fixtures to save on running romex and installing outlet boxes.

I haven't seen that fixture anywhere, except for one. However, it needs to be installed end to end, and I wan 2-3' of wiring between th etwo fixtures.

 

[Platonic Solid]

PNWguy - No such animal with replaceable bulbs. Google "linkable led shop light".

 

[PNWguy]

Platonic - has anybody done tests on how long the "50,000 hour" fixtures last in the real world? I really don't want to throw 10 pounds of plastic and **** into the landfill when a new style fixture dies.

Also, I have no faith that the permanent fixtures will last 50k hours.

 

[MintHue]

So it seems like there are issues getting the GLL bulbs and maybe the MaxLite fixtures.

Platonic - Does LG-4T8-18.5W-BB2-50K look to be a decent alternative to LG-4T8-22WBB-SM50K? The 22WBB doesn't seem to exist anymore.

Are there any alternative fixtures like the MaxLite?

Thanks

 

[Shiftless]

Platonic - has anybody done tests on how long the "50,000 hour" fixtures last in the real world? I really don't want to throw 10 pounds of plastic and **** into the landfill when a new style fixture dies.

Also, I have no faith that the permanent fixtures will last 50k hours.

I was thinking the same thing. 50,000 hours testing means round the clock for over 6 years.
Even if the 50,000 hours expected life is halved in the real world, that still means that the lamps will last for 25,000 hours which is 8 hours per day, 7 days a week for more than 8 years.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Maxlite housing is available here https://www.beeslighting.com/maxlite-led-ready-fixture/p/LSS2XT8USE4803. Good for surface mounting, not hanging.

WRT life expectancy, best you can do is confirm DLC listing here https://www.designlights.org/