The Best Tools For The Job

[nissan_crawler]

I couldn't care less about his caplocks. I do care about how a company presents themselves, and anybody representing a company should know how to conduct themselves accordingly.

If I barged into your house, spewed a bunch of **** about my product without letting you say a word or asking you about it, would you buy it?

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

just trying to do his job
SNAP ON RULES
and nobody paid me to say that

 

[speed bump]

I couldn't care less about his caplocks. I do care about how a company presents themselves, and anybody representing a company should know how to conduct themselves accordingly.

If I barged into your house, spewed a bunch of **** about my product without letting you say a word or asking you about it, would you buy it?

Depends, if you where selling me hookers or old Fords or that tool I just happened to need at that very moment for the right price then heck yeah!

 

[paramudduck]

I would feel a lot better about them if, they would answer the questions asked above.

 

[Jared]

I can't believe some of you guys buy screwdrivers on how they look, now i know why snap on sells screw drivers in pink.

 

[LoneGunman]

The guy apologized, what's the big deal. He may not be up on internet forum protocol, I'm sure all of the detractors never stepped on their *&^% when they were internet newbs, right?

I think it would be pretty cool to have tool manufacturers and distributors here (if he is in fact working directly for Wera) other forums I've been on had industry reps as members and it produced some great deals for the members and an easy to get a hold of guy to ***** at when something wasn't right.

I am not condoning his actions but people do make mistakes, he owned up to it. I do believe it should be the moderators or admins call before the membership tries to run someone off.

 

[LoneGunman]

I can't believe some of you guys buy screwdrivers on how they look, now i know why snap on sells screw drivers in pink.

Yup, people make fun of guys who don't use tools and keep them nice and shiny but yet they rag a tool on how it looks, seems hypocritical to me. Hell, I don't like the way they look but really don't give a ^&%$ about cosmetics, they work great and beat the *&^% out of anything US made that I've tried.

 

[Elroy]

....they work great and beat the *&^% out of anything US made that I've tried.

Well quit buying your screws drivers from Walmart.

 

[hamburglar]

Hell, I don't like the way they look but really don't give a ^&%$ about cosmetics, they work great and beat the *&^% out of anything US made that I've tried.

Makes sense to me. You certainly could knock me over with a feather if the (just to pick a brand at random) Snap On screwdrivers were actually better in any way.

The thing is that a set of 6 Wera Chiseldrivers costs $37.00 from Chads Toolbox and a set of 6 Snap On screwdrivers costs $93.00 off of their site.

(time to warm up a little popcorn)

 

[LoneGunman]

Well quit buying your screws drivers from Walmart.

All of my US made screwdrivers are Klein or SO. I've thrown out everything else or gave them to my son.

 

[eschoendorff]

Its funny, the way they look never was an issue when i bought my Wera screwdrivers but then again I have an affinity for European and German designed products. I was more concerned about the benefits of the ergonomically designed handles; because my Wiha precision screwdrivers do not grip my hand that well, I was looking for another solution. I was pleased when I got them and I would say that are one of the few precision screwdrivers in the market that I know of that have ergonomic grip; this really helps you get stubborn screws out. The issue of the "look" of the screwdrivers may have gotten mixed up in the negative reaction to the "Wera Tools" posting etiquette. Call me a Germanophile but I like the way mine look!

I'm right there with you. I've always had a high regard for european tools. After all, they are the ones designing and building 20,000rpm F1 engines. Even toyota and Honda cannot build one of those without it going BOOM!

I tried Facom tools because I saw them in the Ferrari pits years ago... now I know why they liked them so well.

I also don't understand the backlash against "ergo" designs. The superior ergonomics of the european tools allow people like my dad (who has severe arthritis) to continue to happily use their tools.

To the OP... yeah, you spammed us. But then you apologised. I don't like your screwdrivers, but I'm not goint to hold that against you.

 

[Lightning]

Snap On is not the only company that makes great tools. Whia, Hazet and other German tools are really good quality. I have not tried Wera screw drivers but lots of people seem to like them. Knipex pliers are the best pliers I have ever used. I buy tools from several different brands not just Snap On.
The Wera screw drivers are not very pleasing to the eyes, but keep in mind that thieves love pretty shiney tools not ugly tools.

The only thing that matters is the quality of the tool not how it looks.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I love my Snap-on stuff as much as the next guy. (yeah, other guys love my Snap-on tools too!) But European tools rock!

Don't care so much what it looks like, i just want it to do its job. The guys who do this for a living will understand. The screwdrivers in question might not look as nice as Snap-ons or Journeymans or the next driver, but ******** they're comfy when you use them all day.

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

renault makes tools ?

 

[Moose-LandTran]

renault makes tools ?

Renault as in the car manufacturer? I don't think they make tools, but they have factory branded tools used in the factories and main dealers.

 

[stricht8]

I would trust their tools as much as their cars.

Renault as in the car manufacturer? I don't think they make tools, but they have factory branded tools used in the factories and main dealers.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

They're not made by Renault themselves.

Same as my VW-Audi factory tools. They're made by Hazet, Matra, Matador etc..

 

[Merkava_4]

I'm reserving my opinion of these Wera tools until I get my hands on them; I'm not about to let one single post by one single guy influence my opinion of an entire company. And besides, I always give German tools the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Theo]

I think Wera makes some great product.

Both Wera and Bahco (whom I represent) make great Ergonomic screwdrivers...

Should we have a poll about who's makes a more ****** looking screwdriver?

The Germans or the Swedes? LOL

Remember fellas... function before form.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Remember fellas... function before form.

Yeah, well i'm shallow..

 

[Merkava_4]

If you guys don't start being polite, I'm gonna post another picture of Melissa Dettwiller!

 

[wrenchr]

If you guys don't start being polite, I'm gonna post another picture of Melissa Dettwiller!

If she has big cans then break with them!!!

 

[dps]

What I didn't like in the initial post was the "cut and paste" nature of it. It didn't sound like someone writing to someone else, but just corporate drivel. But they are good tools, offered in colors, too, a la Snap-On, and I ordered a free catalog. What disturbs me is billymade talking about the lettering coming off when cleaning. Plus of course the usual problem with some brands; what will it take to get a warranty repair or replacement when compared to Sears (#1 easiest) or the trucks which are on a regular schedule at a dealership near me.

 

[Merkava_4]

If she has big cans then break with them!!!

Apparently, you've forgot which one she is.

 

[wrenchr]

I need a refresher!!

 

[Fedwrench]

I wouldn't recommend getting the Weras with ease of warranty in mind. I'm not sure how I would even try to warranty one of mine if it failed. I used my recently acquired Weras today at work and they performed well. The handle rolls easily in your hand, the top is great for spinning loose screws in or out, and the shape of the handle with hard and soft areas, is easy to grip and apply torque. The brand lettering quickly disappeared through normal use with dirty hands. My #2 phillips is now a strange looking no brand screwdriver.
Hopefully tomorrow, I'll need to substitute a flat tip for a chisel.

 

[jimvannoy]

I wouldn't recommend getting the Weras with ease of warranty in mind. I'm not sure how I would even try to warranty one of mine if it failed. I used my recently acquired Weras today at work and they performed well. The handle rolls easily in your hand, the top is great for spinning loose screws in or out, and the shape of the handle with hard and soft areas, is easy to grip and apply torque. The brand lettering quickly disappeared through normal use with dirty hands. My #2 phillips is now a strange looking no brand screwdriver.
Hopefully tomorrow, I'll need to substitute a flat tip for a chisel.

Once the lettering is gone they will probably say sorry if you try to swap a bad one. Plus who knows if the will still be around down the road..........

 

[Merkava_4]

I need a refresher!!

Be careful what you ask for!!!

 

[philw]

In the short time I've had my Wera screwdrivers I would have to rate them as excellent. The handle may be ugly but it WORKS. Best handle design I have ever used and that includes the Snap-on stuff.
I wouldn't care if they were pink with polka dots as long as they do the job well.

Maybe those complaining about the looks should go out and pick up one of those Craftsman AXS boxes to match their pretty screwdrivers..... jk

 

[Fedwrench]

Once the lettering is gone they will probably say sorry if you try to swap a bad one. Plus who knows if the will still be around down the road..........

I didn't get them for a warranty. I was interested in their performance and intrigued by their handle. I like them and I think if one fails, it will be because I beat the hell out it and I wouldn't try to warranty it anyway. It's only been a day but, you can can tell when a tool is built to last, and I feel the Weras may outlast me.

 

[Fedwrench]

Be careful what you ask for!!!

What do you consider the crushing or griping strength of those thighs to be?
She could get hurt falling off of those shoes.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

*pukes violently*

 

[hamburglar]

http://www.moviecitynews.com/arrays/images/2003/troy4.jpg

A suspicious similarity.

 

[Wera Tools]

Maybe he/she's sincere. An apology is an apology, and I accept. If you stay away from a tool because it looks like ****, then that just leaves more high quality tools available for the rest of us.

I'd take the ugly crappy looking tools that work well over the pretty crappy performing tools any day. A lot of members have nothing but great things to say about Wera's tools to make them undeniably non-crappy in my eyes even though I have yet to try them.

Wera guys/gals - all is almost forgiven, at least from my perspective, and likely most of everyone else. Now how about doing as I recommended and showing us why Wera is the "best tool for the job". Some internal insight might work wonders...

First off, I would like to state that the individual that started this enthusiastic discussion is not a direct employee of Wera in North America, and as a result, was not officially speaking on behalf of our company. This situation has recently been brought to my attention, and, although I believe this was an innocent mistake made by someone with little experience in the forum community and it's etiquette, I would still like to apologize for the afront to the obvious pride and regard you all have for this site.
I have read throught this thread in it's entirety, and overall there seems to be a fairly balanced and objective view with regards to european ergonomics in hand tool design. Obvioulsy, tool preference is a very personal thing, and we will likely never design a tool that everyone will fall in love with, however, we do believe that there are certain attributes of most of our products that particularly professional users would find to be beneficial.
Regardless, rather than risk sounding like another round of spam with this response, I would prefer to simply invite any specific questions regarding our products, and I hope that Wera will be able to become a valued and trusted resource for your tool research here in the Garage Forum.

Again, my apologies.

Ian Parkhill
President - Wera Tools Inc.

 

[wrenchr]

Any new products coming out???

 

[CatfishXpress]

Be careful what you ask for!!!

That calls for an Aerosmith tune:

 

[hamburglar]

. Does anyone in the US carry the newish socket sets?
. How do you handle warranty issues?
. How come the nut driver sets have missing sizes?

 

[Moose-LandTran]

First off, I would like to state that the individual that started this enthusiastic discussion is not a direct employee of Wera in North America, and as a result, was not officially speaking on behalf of our company. This situation has recently been brought to my attention, and, although I believe this was an innocent mistake made by someone with little experience in the forum community and it's etiquette, I would still like to apologize for the afront to the obvious pride and regard you all have for this site.
I have read throught this thread in it's entirety, and overall there seems to be a fairly balanced and objective view with regards to european ergonomics in hand tool design. Obvioulsy, tool preference is a very personal thing, and we will likely never design a tool that everyone will fall in love with, however, we do believe that there are certain attributes of most of our products that particularly professional users would find to be beneficial.
Regardless, rather than risk sounding like another round of spam with this response, I would prefer to simply invite any specific questions regarding our products, and I hope that Wera will be able to become a valued and trusted resource for your tool research here in the Garage Forum.

Again, my apologies.

Ian Parkhill
President - Wera Tools Inc.

I like you. You seem like a good guy.

Mr. Pakhill, as you've seen you guys on here don't like being told what to do, what to buy or what to like. It's a shame the original poster created such a bad first impression. We'll all open to persuasion and are willing to try out a new tool, but when someone comes in and says "this is the right tool for the job, anything else isn't." just doesn't sit well. I think everyone here appreciate your response.

I've used a fair amount of Wera tools, and own a few. I think they're really good, not all the designs are to my taste, but they certainly work, and when i've done 48-hour straight engine swaps with friends the ergonomics have really helped us.

 

[Wera Tools]

. Does anyone in the US carry the newish socket sets?
. How do you handle warranty issues?
. How come the nut driver sets have missing sizes?

Thanks for the questions! The answers are as follows:
The new Zyklop socket set program will be available through our US distributors by Mid-November. We appreciate your patience on this one (I wish we could get them sooner!), but the intial launch is in Germany and Europe, followed by North America.

For warranty info, please see
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19450

Most of our nut-driver sets are based on European standards, and this usually dictates the content of the initial versions. Any suggestions would be welcome.

I hope this helps! Thanks.

 

[Wera Tools]

I like you. You seem like a good guy.

Mr. Pakhill, as you've seen you guys on here don't like being told what to do, what to buy or what to like. It's a shame the original poster created such a bad first impression. We'll all open to persuasion and are willing to try out a new tool, but when someone comes in and says "this is the right tool for the job, anything else isn't." just doesn't sit well. I think everyone here appreciate your response.

I've used a fair amount of Wera tools, and own a few. I think they're really good, not all the designs are to my taste, but they certainly work, and when i've done 48-hour straight engine swaps with friends the ergonomics have really helped us.

Understood, and thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear that you were happy with the products!