It doesn't matter what the homeowner thinks it is, the description and explanation is held by the AHJ. Construction and demolition debris is one in the same.
The dump next door is finally mine
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It doesn't matter what the homeowner thinks it is, the description and explanation is held by the AHJ. Construction and demolition debris is one in the same.
SeattleKent
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Oh well. I often find a number of problems can be solved by a careful reading of the statutes. In this case it could have been the ordinance was written to control builders and construction and did not care about demolition. It pays to check.
LB-1911
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You would not have found it this time.
Who regulates open burning?
The Illinois Pollution Control Board (Board) and the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (Illinois EPA or Agency) regulate open burning.
Pursuant to 415 ILCS 5/9(c):
No person shall cause or allow the open burning of refuse, conduct any salvage operation by open burning, or cause or allow the burning of any refuse in any chamber not specifically designed for the purpose and approved by the Agency…except that the Board may adopt regulations permitting open burning of refuse in certain cases.
Local (counties or municipalities, i.e., villages, towns, or cities) authorities/governments may also regulate open burning in areas where they have jurisdiction.
State law or regulation does not override local prohibitions or limitations on open burning. Local ordinances may be more restrictive and must be followed. Local ordinances may require that additional permits be obtained.
http://www.epa.illinois.gov/topics/forms/air-permits/open-burning/index
SeattleKent
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Gee, sorry for making a suggestion.
rayra
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oh you were doing quite a bit more than merely making a 'suggestion'. You more seemed to be advocating a slavish adherence to the profundity of regulations that have proliferated beyond all reason or justification, which are increasingly grinding things to a halt.
BlueBomber
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Hate to see a neat thread shut down by silly snipping. Any updates on your demo?
58Yeoman
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PeterT
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I burn stuff all the time. Rules are for SUCKERS
demolitionman
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I didn't have time to read the whole thread; I got this out of what I did read; house is old, needs demolished, your looking for info on route to take.
Don't bother trying to burn; one its way way more work than youd imagine, and two, SOME, states construction and demo landfills will not take burnt material for fear of causing a sub surface fire underground. Also some states consider burnt materials to be "solid waste" and will have to be disposed of at a by the ton county waste landfill as opposed to by the yard, which will get very expensive if the material is heavy laden. So, CALL your local CD Landfills to get the scoop on what's they take.
My tip, if you haven't figured out already; find a local company that deals with 30Yard dumpsters. These will range rental from 450 to 600 dollars a box. Figure MOST residential homes will need 4 to 7 dumpsters. Far as equipment goes; the only thing you need is a trackhoe with a toothed bucket and a HYDRAULIC thumb. So rent as big of one as you can afford. Knock the house into the basement(if it has one) and spend a lot of time crunching and busting up the material as small as possible. Use the basement as your dig out spot so u don't have to chase material around the site.
All the house can be disposed of in the dumpsters but you can't load a dumpster full of dirt and concrete when you get to the basement because his material is far to heavy for even the biggest of Roll off trucks. IMO you'd be best served finding a spot on your property to put the concrete or bury it back into the basement and cover and fill with top soil . Good luck.
Don't bother trying to burn; one its way way more work than youd imagine, and two, SOME, states construction and demo landfills will not take burnt material for fear of causing a sub surface fire underground. Also some states consider burnt materials to be "solid waste" and will have to be disposed of at a by the ton county waste landfill as opposed to by the yard, which will get very expensive if the material is heavy laden. So, CALL your local CD Landfills to get the scoop on what's they take.
My tip, if you haven't figured out already; find a local company that deals with 30Yard dumpsters. These will range rental from 450 to 600 dollars a box. Figure MOST residential homes will need 4 to 7 dumpsters. Far as equipment goes; the only thing you need is a trackhoe with a toothed bucket and a HYDRAULIC thumb. So rent as big of one as you can afford. Knock the house into the basement(if it has one) and spend a lot of time crunching and busting up the material as small as possible. Use the basement as your dig out spot so u don't have to chase material around the site.
All the house can be disposed of in the dumpsters but you can't load a dumpster full of dirt and concrete when you get to the basement because his material is far to heavy for even the biggest of Roll off trucks. IMO you'd be best served finding a spot on your property to put the concrete or bury it back into the basement and cover and fill with top soil . Good luck.
pmiranda
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For the people too lazy to read the thread, the demo was done a while ago.
BlueBomber
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His last posts were from mid-Nov with pictures showing the house still partially standing. So, just wondering house he had faired in the last three months.
LB-1911
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Here you go -
10-03-2015
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BlueBomber
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So, since mid-November.....how's it been going?
Well......between mid-November and mid-February their was virtually no progress. I hate the cold and simply cannot force myself to get out and work in it. We had some good weather in mid to late February and hit or miss since then. Progress is being made.
As of this afternoon I have demo'd all of the floor that was covering the basement. Bricks are going into the basement as fill, roofing and things I don't want to go into the ground are going into a 30 yr dumpster, the 5th and hopefully the last. I am separating the lumber into a couple of piles. One pile is the oak and poplar joists and studs the other is all of the scrap pine 2x, breathing, etc. I have no trouble finding people to haul off the oak and poplar. Nobody wants the pine and the pile is getting quite large. I have an offer from a relative that lives in the country about 20 miles away to burn on her burn pile. I just have to get it over there.
I am estimating it will be another couple of months before I am ready to have fill brought in. I also still have a pile of copper wire and a bit of copper pipe to sell for scrap along with a fair amount of galvanized and iron pipe. Although at about 3 cents a pound it almost isn't worth it.
I'll try to get a couple of pics to post in the next couple of days.
As of this afternoon I have demo'd all of the floor that was covering the basement. Bricks are going into the basement as fill, roofing and things I don't want to go into the ground are going into a 30 yr dumpster, the 5th and hopefully the last. I am separating the lumber into a couple of piles. One pile is the oak and poplar joists and studs the other is all of the scrap pine 2x, breathing, etc. I have no trouble finding people to haul off the oak and poplar. Nobody wants the pine and the pile is getting quite large. I have an offer from a relative that lives in the country about 20 miles away to burn on her burn pile. I just have to get it over there.
I am estimating it will be another couple of months before I am ready to have fill brought in. I also still have a pile of copper wire and a bit of copper pipe to sell for scrap along with a fair amount of galvanized and iron pipe. Although at about 3 cents a pound it almost isn't worth it.
I'll try to get a couple of pics to post in the next couple of days.
Better to get a little bit of money, or pay nothing to get rid of it then pay for disposal, copper & brass could be stashed until the price comes up, but sometimes it's better to be rid of it, even though scrap prices are in the toilet.
theoldwizard1
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Around here, the only thing allowed for fill is "clean" dirt. No concrete of any
size, no brick, no building material. The basement floor and walls must be removed along with piping out to the city connection point.