Above 1200 Sq/FT The Fort!!

[bustdnukles]

Bro that’s aggressive by yourself I’d suggest you leave the bolted connections loose on the purlins so you don’t screw yourself aligning the header with the column if you keep going. Personally I’d complete the header full span then layup your purlins after you’ve squared up the building.

That's exactly what I'm doing, even states that on the plans. All the columns and rafters are very "floppy" by themselves. I initially tried setting the upper roof rafters with short wall attached, WAY too out of control. So I attached the short uppers to the lower rafter, then strapped it to the forks. The Telehandler has a sideways tilt feature that makes it a piece of cake. I think I'm going to have to find a crew to do the sheetmetal, the panels are just too big for one person to handle.

 

[bustdnukles]

It REALLY ***** working with gloves on all day, but I have no choice. That **** gets HOT, and this was late morning.

 

[bustdnukles]

First upper rafter set went up today! Got a second one up before it stormed.

 

[bustdnukles]

VERY slow going. Nothing fits, well almost nothing. Two mounting flanges are WAY off, like 6" on one, about 8" on another. And when it doesn't fit, that one simple task turns into a project. Feels like temp today, 111! That slows me down a bit too. Just like eating an elephant, one bite at a time.

 

[SilverJimmy]

Be very careful about “not fitting”! When I was at the power plant management decided to replace all the handrail on the coal pulverizers. There were 7 mills per unit, 21 in total, labeled A, B, C, D, E, F, & G. The crew installing the handrail called the supervisor over because the “A” stuff only fit in one section, all the rest was made wrong! Same with the stuff for the B mill. So they decided to make it fit by cutting and rewelding everything. When they got done “fixing” all the factory screw ups on B, someone finally looked at the drawings and noticed that each mill required 4 pieces, A, B, C, & D!
Not saying you’re doing the same, but sometimes it helps to have a different set of eyes look at something as complicated as a build such as yours. My father was a red iron building contractor for 20 years and he always insisted that we follow the plans! With it being as hot as you say it’s been and you just want it done, I get it. It’s killing me to just stare at my building laying on the ground for over a month and a half waiting on permits, but after it’s done that will all be a distant memory.
Your shop is looking good and when it’s done it’ll be something to be very proud of!

 

[bustdnukles]

Be very careful about “not fitting”! When I was at the power plant management decided to replace all the handrail on the coal pulverizers. There were 7 mills per unit, 21 in total, labeled A, B, C, D, E, F, & G. The crew installing the handrail called the supervisor over because the “A” stuff only fit in one section, all the rest was made wrong! Same with the stuff for the B mill. So they decided to make it fit by cutting and rewelding everything. When they got done “fixing” all the factory screw ups on B, someone finally looked at the drawings and noticed that each mill required 4 pieces, A, B, C, & D!
Not saying you’re doing the same, but sometimes it helps to have a different set of eyes look at something as complicated as a build such as yours. My father was a red iron building contractor for 20 years and he always insisted that we follow the plans! With it being as hot as you say it’s been and you just want it done, I get it. It’s killing me to just stare at my building laying on the ground for over a month and a half waiting on permits, but after it’s done that will all be a distant memory.
Your shop is looking good and when it’s done it’ll be something to be very proud of!

I hear ya! It's going pretty smooth considering. Parts are labeled fairly well. Only real issues are like I said, flanges being "off". Not a big deal, just time. The beams and rafters are way more flimsy then one would think in a building like this, makes for freaky assembly situations. But once things are bolted together they tighten right up. I have one last rafter to set, after I re-do the columns and placements in the very front. The J bolts are off about 1.5", which will throw everything above it off. Again, not a big deal, just time. Lots of pieces to the front(2-14'x14' doors)so assembly might be a bit of a challenge. The time between setting a rafter, and getting some purlins in place is kinda sketchy, 30' up!!! LOL! Oh yea, and I've had 3 sets of eyes on the plans, it really does help, plus the mfg is very helpful. 4 of the lower cables were WAY off, 14" short! The replacements showed up today! More pics to follow.

 

[bustdnukles]

So I got all the rest of the (red iron) set. Purlins put up, and part of the front garage doors. I'm returning the Telehandler Monday so I wanted to get all the heavy lifting done prior. Next week I'll finish placing the rest of the purlins and get the garage door openings finished. The headers need drilled, don't understand why they are the only parts not pre-drilled. Oh well, I won't melt, feels like 111! SWFL. It all went pretty smoothly aside from some anchors needing attention.

 

[LXCam]

So I got all the rest of the (red iron) set. Purlins put up, and part of the front garage doors. I'm returning the Telehandler Monday so I wanted to get all the heavy lifting done prior. Next week I'll finish placing the rest of the purlins and get the garage door openings finished. The headers need drilled, don't understand why they are the only parts not pre-drilled. Oh well, I won't melt, feels like 111! SWFL. It all went pretty smoothly aside from some anchors needing attention.

Yo knuckles,

I saw an add for a manufacturer today that featured their monitor style red iron building and it made me think of your project. How you coming bud?

 

[bustdnukles]

Yo knuckles,

I saw an add for a manufacturer today that featured their monitor style red iron building and it made me think of your project. How you coming bud?

Hey Brother,
Finally found a crew to hang the sheetmetal!! WhoopWhoop!! 4-6 guys depending on the day. They've been at at it about a week. Doing great so far!! Thank you for asking.

 

[bustdnukles]

Really digging the colors!! Oh yea, the head guy said I did a great job with the structure! I won't do THAT again, especially in the summer in SWFL!!

 

[LXCam]

Hey Brother,
Finally found a crew to hang the sheetmetal!! WhoopWhoop!! 4-6 guys depending on the day. They've been at at it about a week. Doing great so far!! Thank you for asking.

She’s looking great bud! After self-performing the framing I’m surprised you subbed out the sheet metal or is it, after self performing the framing it was time to sub out the sheet metal

 

[bustdnukles]

She’s looking great bud! After self-performing the framing I’m surprised you subbed out the sheet metal or is it, after self performing the framing it was time to sub out the sheet metal

Not that it would be difficult. Aside from wainscot, the majority are long pieces and are hard to handle by myself. Plus we had a couple storms, so I was out doin my thing. This crew does it everyday. You know, the "work smarter, not harder" thing!

 

[bustdnukles]

The front steel is up!

 

[Mr onetwo]

Looks good so far

 

[Jayman17]

Your building is looking real good!

 

[bustdnukles]

Got a few more roof panels up today! Starting to look like something!

 

[bustdnukles]

Your building is looking real good!

Thank you Sir!

 

[bustdnukles]

Looks good so far

Thanks!

 

[bustdnukles]

They got one of the lights out of order, but other than that, I'm happy with it. I'll have the boys fix it tomorrow. If you don't stand right over them, THIS is what happens.

 

[FTWingRiders]

That’s going to be great space!

 

[bustdnukles]

Got the upper walls finished today! Start the upper roof tomorrow! There was only supposed to be 4 lights on the upper walls, but they shipped SEVEN 12' sections! Upper is just 5', so we ended up with 7 lights per side!

 

[meathooker]

She’s looking great bud! After self-performing the framing I’m surprised you subbed out the sheet metal or is it, after self performing the framing it was time to sub out the sheet metal

I did the exact same thing. The pros that do it everyday will be quicker and cleaner than I would.

OP - looking great!

 

[bustdnukles]

The north wall is finished. Just 2 more pieces of trim in on the front wall and DONE! The color (last pic) really pops under cloud cover. Has blood red tone to it.

 

[bustdnukles]

The star is the jewel.

 

[FTWingRiders]

Man I love it! How tall are the center doors and what’s the interior height? I really dig your design, and I’d need 14’ for my 5th wheel camper.

 

[Mr onetwo]

Really nice looking building...congratulations

 

[bustdnukles]

Man I love it! How tall are the center doors and what’s the interior height? I really dig your design, and I’d need 14’ for my 5th wheel camper.

Thanks!! Doors are 14'x14', interior height is 28'

 

[bustdnukles]

Really nice looking building...congratulations

Thanks!

 

[bustdnukles]

Finished all the metal work. Now electric and garage doors. Wasn't really crazy about the roof color, just the std gavalume. But as I walk around the building, if you're not on a ladder, lift, or another roof, you can't even see it from the ground!! Bonus!

 

[cannuck]

I had to bring in all the fill PER county code! Errrr. I'm in a 500 yr flood zone, so they say.

This is a phrase that runs shivers down my spine. My best bud has a few properties along the river South of us, one of which is a former greenhouse business where he keeps his horses now. He bought it in good faith fully aware of the fact that rivers flood - but this property had buildings high enough to be within the time period of flood extremes (IIRC also 500 year). Some time back the local government commissioned a study of some kind and the engineering company suggested that the flood risk should be for a 1 in a THOUSAND year event. That means he can't develop the property. If it burns down, rots out, changes purpose (which IS the case) he can't add or change anything.

Do you know what the mechanism of your worst in 500yr event would be? i.e. runoff from inland or inundation from sea water? I am curious because our farm (where my next/last shop wants to be built) has flooded from local groundwater accumulating in the 10' of gravel and till sitting on 80' of nearly impervious clay. I will have to learn what from a technical point of view "flooding" actually means.

 

[GlennSullivan]

Finished all the metal work. Now electric and garage doors. Wasn't really crazy about the roof color, just the std gavalume. But as I walk around the building, if you're not on a ladder, lift, or another roof, you can't even see it from the ground!! Bonus!

Really nice looking.

 

[niget2002]

I'm late to the party, but that's looking awesome.

My wife and I built a small metal shed in August one here here in Texas. We started with the foundation on a Friday evening and finished the build by Sunday. Not nearly as complicated as your build, but even then, we'd work for about an hour, then jump in the pool for a few minutes. Work for an hour, jump in the pool.

 

[Mr onetwo]

I love the lighted star. Did the lights come with it or did you add them?

 

[kitdoctor]

This showed up on the 9th!! Now it begins!

Here's hoping it was you that ordered that and not a neighbour!

 

[bustdnukles]

This is a phrase that runs shivers down my spine. My best bud has a few properties along the river South of us, one of which is a former greenhouse business where he keeps his horses now. He bought it in good faith fully aware of the fact that rivers flood - but this property had buildings high enough to be within the time period of flood extremes (IIRC also 500 year). Some time back the local government commissioned a study of some kind and the engineering company suggested that the flood risk should be for a 1 in a THOUSAND year event. That means he can't develop the property. If it burns down, rots out, changes purpose (which IS the case) he can't add or change anything.

Do you know what the mechanism of your worst in 500yr event would be? i.e. runoff from inland or inundation from sea water? I am curious because our farm (where my next/last shop wants to be built) has flooded from local groundwater accumulating in the 10' of gravel and till sitting on 80' of nearly impervious clay. I will have to learn what from a technical point of view "flooding" actually means.

I don't know any of the specs of county requirements, I just know I've lived through 2 CAT5, 15" of rain in one week, and the water never got anywhere near the house. They made me have the same FF as the house. I just know it cost me an EXTRA $20k on fill that I didn't want to spend.

 

[bustdnukles]

I love the lighted star. Did the lights come with it or did you add them?

The lights came with it, solar powered. I think Tractor Supply sells them.

 

[bustdnukles]

Inside shot from the boom lift

 

[bustdnukles]

Scored this gem the other day! Perfect Fort box!

 

[zmotorsports]

Scored this gem the other day! Perfect Fort box!

Nice score on an older box. Looks like it's in good condition. A coworker of mine had that box when I first started my career. My hell that thing was a monster. I remember he couldn't have it against the wall like the rest of us because of the perpendicular drawer style. He ended up being at the end of the shop with only one workbench on the side.

 

[ambenz]

Just caught this thread and gosh, that is one Garagemahall! I guess if you can build it that big, you can also afford to dehumidify it too! Naples get pretty humid and toasty.....Nice digs! I suppose you got a lot of toys or plan on getting toys... to store too!