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timberseal

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Very nice build! I'm soaking up the ideas as I'm getting ready to build in the next year... year and a half. Just bought the land this past summer. Your shop has everything I think I could look for in a shop :)

I'm looking at - at least a 42x64 but will go large if the city allows it :)

Do I dare get nosey and ask what you roughly have invested in this build? Just curious from a financial point on my end! :) I'm guessing about around the 100K mark....
 
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zeebad1

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Very nice build! I'm soaking up the ideas as I'm getting ready to build in the next year... year and a half. Just bought the land this past summer. Your shop has everything I think I could look for in a shop :)

I'm looking at - at least a 42x64 but will go large if the city allows it :)

Do I dare get nosey and ask what you roughly have invested in this build? Just curious from a financial point on my end! :) I'm guessing about around the 100K mark....

Thanks for the compliment. It has been more of an undertaking than I could have ever imagined.

Keep in mind that we went way overboard on this, and spared no expense.
Double your guess, and you would be closer. Granted, we could have pinched pennies, and cut corners, but it was our choosing not to. We wanted it "all" done too. I know if I didn't do it now, it probably wouldn't ever be finished.
 

timberseal

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Well you have a hell of a place to work :) I'm sure the radiant floor heat, spray in insulation and comfort quarters (kitchen, bath and such) added a chunk. I hear ya on "having it done" too. It's too easy to get sidetracked and turn the build into a 5 year ordeal! Been there done that :)
 

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Very nice building and great updates on it. When I hit the lottery, I will be referencing this post :)
 
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zeebad1

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I just realized that I never posted any "finished" pictures here.

We are really enjoying this building, and very glad to have it.



Here's what the outside looks like today...


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The loft side from the overhead door....


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The pallet racking on the south wall....


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The clock....


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A couple of the office....


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And the kitchen....


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Everything nicely stuffed into the mechanical room....


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The toyroom....


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And the first Saturday in August we had an official shop-warming party. We have had numerous get-togethers in the shop. Graduation party, birthday parties, and just casual cookouts, but this was the big one. About 130 friends & family members were in attendance for this, and we all had a great time. One of the smarter things we did was have the food catered in. No prep work all day, and very little cleanup afterwards.


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Building this was more of an undertaking than I could have ever imagined, but well worth it in the long run. we use it every day for one thing or another.

A couple of things that I would change if I had to do it over...

The bathroom, kitchen, & office are all on the same floor-heat loop, and the bathroom stays just a little chilly for taking showers. I should have added some electric heat under the tile. I just put a baseboard heater in last night, and it will work, but not really what I prefer.

We ran a gas line into the bathroom for a clothes dryer, but should have run a 220 outlet also, and not been limited to a gas dryer. I could still add that, but it wouldn't be as easy now.

One major thing that I need to finish is the jib crane, but it's on the back burner for now. I know I'll use it more than I can imagine.
 

Dragster Racer

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That's officially my favorite build. Having seen it early on, I knew it would be big, but the finished product is just awesome! This is the type of shop that I find useable. I really like the loft and the seperate enclosure for the drivers. Smart.
Do you have a way to get things up into the loft? A fork lift would be sweet for that, or an elevator of some kind. I saw the pallet jack upstairs.
Really really nice.
 

rustypenny

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Great looking building and good looking Camaro's!!!! I have done some deer hunting around Perry and the Chambersburg Ill. area... I really like the area up there.......Great people.... :D
 

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Very nice!
Seems like most times it's hard to keep a pole building from looking like a pole building, but you did absolutely everything right!
Magnificent inside and out:beer:
 

egads74

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wow... nice outbldg... curious though about the pex and mesh directly on top, no issues of piercing the pex... I see everybody walking all over it. Noticed no ties on the mesh... hmmmm.... any concerns about my pex comments? I thought the pex was not too forgiving and easily pierced?
while I am not really a fan of the metal bldg, your add-on's and coloring make it look really good. This is probably the 1st one I really liked.
If I did a post in ground,,, I think I would add additional sealing to the end of each post keeping the wood from working as a straw to pull moisture upward... Would it not be better for the post to sit on a cement pillar with separation from wood to cement? I guess the next guy can support each 1, cut the rot back and do that in yr 2061.
 
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zeebad1

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Thanks for all of the compliments.


Great shop!! Did you ever get the Jib crane done?

No, not yet. it is on the horizon for a "summer" project though.
I really want to get it done. I would have used it many times already.

wow... nice outbldg... curious though about the pex and mesh directly on top, no issues of piercing the pex... I see everybody walking all over it. Noticed no ties on the mesh... hmmmm.... any concerns about my pex comments? I thought the pex was not too forgiving and easily pierced?
while I am not really a fan of the metal bldg, your add-on's and coloring make it look really good. This is probably the 1st one I really liked.
If I did a post in ground,,, I think I would add additional sealing to the end of each post keeping the wood from working as a straw to pull moisture upward... Would it not be better for the post to sit on a cement pillar with separation from wood to cement? I guess the next guy can support each 1, cut the rot back and do that in yr 2061.

The pex was stapled to the insulation, and not fastened to the mesh. I never gave any thought to damaging the pex by walking on it. I'm sure hoping it's tougher than that.

I could have gone with what are called "perma-columns," that are concrete pillars underground, and the wood posts attach to the top of them, but as you said yourself, I know that I won't be around in 2061 to worry about them. I forget now how much they added to the cost.
 
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peelman

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Such an awesome build. I love the partitioned Toy Box idea, and the freestanding jib (got a make or model for that too?).

My dream shop just keeps growing...

Edit: With 16' Eaves, and what appears to be an 8ft ceiling in your toy box, how much headroom did you have left on the loft? Looks like right at or a little under 6ft? Those beams looked like the equiv. of 2x12s, so that would put the math at roughly that too...unless I'm mistaken and/or the depth of field in the picture is deceptive...
 
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zeebad1

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Edit: With 16' Eaves, and what appears to be an 8ft ceiling in your toy box, how much headroom did you have left on the loft? Looks like right at or a little under 6ft? Those beams looked like the equiv. of 2x12s, so that would put the math at roughly that too...unless I'm mistaken and/or the depth of field in the picture is deceptive...

I had to go out and measure it to be sure. 81", and I'm only 5'9", so plenty of room for me!!

The steel purlins measure 8" tall, so that was quite a space saver over lumber.
 

peelman

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You have me sold on doing something similar now, except I need 9' ceilings (and 8' doors) to accommodate trucks. If I stick with 16' eaves that doesn't leave me much headroom up above (any storage space is better than none, but i'm 6'1". Raised chord trusses would get me a little more room, but I may have to revisit my plans here...
 
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zeebad1

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Can we con you out of any more information on the unfinished jib? Make/Model? Capacity?

Here's a "cut & paste" of the order. I picked up the post, and the fellow loading it asked why I didn't get a used one. i told him that I inquired about used, but was told they didn't have anything. he said that I didn't ask the right person, and "let's go for a walk."

We found a jib laying in the grass that had "scrap" written on it. Brand new, 12' long, and a 12" beam, rated for 2 tons. He confirmed with his boss that it was indeed scrap, and we loaded it up, free of charge.

I figure I can extend the 12" beam to almost 21', and put about a 4" truss on top, and will have my 1000 lb. capacity.

That's the main reason it's not done. If it were all just purchased parts, I would have done that long ago.


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peelman

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Thanks! That post looks like it'd support a helluva lot more than a single ton. Make sure you post pics back if you ever get around to hanging the jib out there :)
 

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dear GOD ! I need a towel & a cigarette (and i dont smoke)....absolutely BEAUTIFUL place,
id live in it & i wouldnt even mind sleeping on the <heated> floor :D
 

TBOS2K

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Wow, amazing job all around. A suburban boy like myself could only dream of something like that one day. I don't think I'd ever leave if I had something like that. I love the little 2 car garage showroom off to the side. What an amazing space for get togethers as well. Congrats!
 
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zeebad1

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I keep forgetting to post pictures of the jib crane.

What a great addition!! Why didn't I finish this long ago???


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The 21' stick covers a large portion of the shop. I use this thing more than I ever imagined.

I did confer with a welding/fabrication shop, and used their suggestion as to how to make the 12" beam sufficient to do the job.

I welded the truss on the top, making the overall height 16". This made for some "interesting" moments during the install, as we ended up with 1/2" clearance under the lights, and 1" away from the end wall. Just right!!!

Everyone wondered how I would ever get the beam up there, and it actually went up, just as I had planned. I borrowed a neighbor's forklift, removed the rack from the mast, turned the forks upside down, and clamped the beam to the forks with my heavy duty c-clamps. With help from the 2 middle sons, we got it up there without any issues.

1000 lb. hoist has lifted anything that I've needed to so far.
 

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:rocker:thanks for sharing this awesome garage....i love the two car garage with the doors in the front and back... pull in and hit a secret button and holy **** whats on the other side lol love the chevy collection my 72 chevelle ss would fit nice next to the camaros!! congrats now i get what the big yellow pole was for ha ha :rocker::3gears:
 
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