Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The "Glendora Garage"

[kaymccampbell]

2.5" from the edge. Yeah, nothing larger than 1/4" that's not epoxy. You'll like the tapcons. My lift is held in place with them. So is the whole house vac.

 

[Prospecter]

Nah, don't want an epoxied fastener because it is (remotely) possible this gazebo may be moved in the future. I own a basic Ramset gun but don't want to use that because I have had partial "sets" of the fastener before and then you're stuck. In this case it would necessitate me moving the entire structure over slightly to fire a new fastener.

I was thinking Tapcon but I've never used them before. Doing research I hear sometimes they strip out the hole but for the anchors I need to place near the edge of the slab they might be best. I've used Redhead the most and they work great away from edge and as long as you're thorough in removing dust from the drilled hole.

On partial sets, using Ramset, I can usually set it with a second load, and the tool placed over the original fastener. I sometimes use a lighter load the second time around if it seems appropriate.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Thanks Kay! I'll go check out Tapcons tomorrow.

This weekend we're babysitting grandchildren. My daughter & son-in-law are leaving their 14 month old son overnight for the very first time. The 5 & 9 year old girls are easy peasy and sweet. He JUST took his first steps a day ago and the time from walking to running is a very short, especially with boys, ha ha.

Today I assembled the gazebo. I staged two roof sides on saw horses to get higher starting point. They're not heavy but awkward as hell. Hired a day laborer to help. They already had the brackets that "sit" on the horizontal beams and loosely installed screws. Propped 1st one up w/2x4, then lifted 2nd. 3 ea. 1/4" long bolts attach one roof panel to the next through rafters. Neighbor arrived to help when we put up the 3rd. Getting them to fit tightly to each other takes a lot of finagling, jiggling & cursing (the technical terms) but we got them in place.

This was a true *** kick job. I'd had a very small breakfast and at one point I felt faint and nauseous at the same time - NO bueno - it was well over 90*! Told the laborer to "take 5". Fortunately my girlfriend brought in lunch and even though I'd been drinking water she insisted I drink Gatorade - which I dislike - but I admit it helped. I always assumed the electrolytes, etc were a marketing gimmick but whatever it has I felt better immediately.



After all this I found whoever Costco had assemble this in the store didn't remove the thin plastic sheeting on the roofing tin (aluminum). Getting it off now is going to be a pain and take a lot of time but the gazebo is done other than an overhead fan/light and moving the lamp post & brick pier to elsewhere in the yard. Upcoming work after an upcoming Hawaiian vacation!

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

On partial sets, using Ramset, I can usually set it with a second load, and the tool placed over the original fastener. I sometimes use a lighter load the second time around if it seems appropriate.

Good to know, thanks!

 

[kaymccampbell]

For me, no Hilti loads closer than 6 inches from the edge of concrete.

 

[LeonardY]

Thanks Kay! I'll go check out Tapcons tomorrow.

This weekend we're babysitting grandchildren. My daughter & son-in-law are leaving their 14 month old son overnight for the very first time. The 5 & 9 year old girls are easy peasy and sweet. He JUST took his first steps a day ago and the time from walking to running is a very short, especially with boys, ha ha.

Today I assembled the gazebo. I staged two roof sides on saw horses to get higher starting point. They're not heavy but awkward as hell. Hired a day laborer to help. They already had the brackets that "sit" on the horizontal beams and loosely installed screws. Propped 1st one up w/2x4, then lifted 2nd. 3 ea. 1/4" long bolts attach one roof panel to the next through rafters. Neighbor arrived to help when we put up the 3rd. Getting them to fit tightly to each other takes a lot of finagling, jiggling & cursing (the technical terms) but we got them in place.

This was a true *** kick job. I'd had a very small breakfast and at one point I felt faint and nauseous at the same time - NO bueno - it was well over 90*! Told the laborer to "take 5". Fortunately my girlfriend brought in lunch and even though I'd been drinking water she insisted I drink Gatorade - which I dislike - but I admit it helped. I always assumed the electrolytes, etc were a marketing gimmick but whatever it has I felt better immediately.



After all this I found whoever Costco had assemble this in the store didn't remove the thin plastic sheeting on the roofing tin (aluminum). Getting it off now is going to be a pain and take a lot of time but the gazebo is done other than an overhead fan/light and moving the lamp post & brick pier to elsewhere in the yard. Upcoming work after an upcoming Hawaiian vacation!

Nice job. Well worth the sweat equity.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Nice job. Well worth the sweat equity.

Thanks! Worth the sweat but not the near heat stroke. I was dumb pushing it too hard on too hot a day. Dodged a bullet.

 

[captain14]

Don
I’ve used both Tapcons and different Hilti products mounting items to my brick and block walls in my house. I used another product when I mounted my handrail on my back steps. I’ll have to find the box for the brand name.
I asked my local supplier for his recommendations when I described the project. I used stainless washers and fasteners.

 

[Jayman17]

Dan, that's a slick looking gazebo over your outdoor kitchen area. I think you will enjoy the shade that provides!
Enjoy your time with the grandkids!

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Don
I’ve used both Tapcons and different Hilti products mounting items to my brick and block walls in my house. I used another product when I mounted my handrail on my back steps. I’ll have to find the box for the brand name.
I asked my local supplier for his recommendations when I described the project. I used stainless washers and fasteners.

I'd like to find stainless fasteners & washers for the anchor bolts. The baseplate is powder coated but over time I think there's a likelihood for rust and I want to avoid that if at all possible. I considered whether to use some kind of spacers beneath the baseplate but I'm probably overthinking it. Just avoid water on the plates when cleaning the deck.

Dan, that's a slick looking gazebo over your outdoor kitchen area. I think you will enjoy the shade that provides!
Enjoy your time with the grandkids!

Thanks for the kind words. The backyard is due south facing so it was needed. We moved in 3-1/2 years ago and that first summer was unbearable without the patio cover, shade sails over the pool, and now this gazebo.
Back around page 3 or 4 the back of the house/yard was this exposed:



So much different and more user friendly now.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Home from Kauai. Helluva nice trip with a total of 11 family members including my two 9 year old grand daughters. Evidence of their attention to me in pic below.

No, no impact from the Maui fires. Maui is over 200 miles from Kauai. A hurricane did pass close enough to cause heavy wind and one rainy night but otherwise a very nice trip with lots of beach time.

While away my sister-in-law; who lives in NorCal, was house/dog sitting had to leave as her husband had a health issue. Luckily my own sister stepped up and took them over so our vacation was saved. Thanks sis!
Got in after 2AM but got lawns mowed today. Big hedges to be trimmed tomorrow. I love going on vacation but I also love coming home.

Any of you guys impacted by the Hawaiian fire?

"Papa. can we paint your toenails?" Sure guys, do a good job! (Yeah I'm aware. Pretty ratty looking feet...but no old man fungus!)

 

[Jayman17]

Is that Rustoleum Satin Oxford Blue? Did they add any hardener?

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ha ha, fortunately no hardener. Acetone will take this off. I just haven't done it yet.

It's weird as hell to see it on my feet but on the other hand it reminds me how pleased they were when I told them could do it. They giggled all through it.

Isla above and Charlotte below. Born 3 weeks apart to the day and live 250 miles apart but are as close as sisters. It's the result of FaceTime and shared computer games plus seeing each other several times per year. They are sweet, smart and kind little girls.

 

[captain14]

Home from Kauai. Helluva nice trip with a total of 11 family members including my two 9 year old grand daughters. Evidence of their attention to me in pic below.

"Papa. can we paint your toenails?" Sure guys, do a good job! (Yeah I'm aware. Pretty ratty looking feet...but no old man fungus!)

Dan.


Hopefully you can find a pair of OSHA approved safety sandals you can wear while doing yard work. You gotta be safe while being stylish.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Dan.


Hopefully you can find a pair of OSHA approved safety sandals you can wear while doing yard work. You gotta be safe while being stylish.

I'll have to do a search for those! Ha ha.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Summer, 2023:

1st time we fully cleaned living room rug: Soap, Oxy, steam clean. DRENCHED with water and squeegee'd over and over. Sun completes drying (we hope!)

 

[rharman]

Someone is going to need this tonight....

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ha! We BOTH took some.

 

[LeonardY]

Ha! We BOTH took some.

Smart! I take a couple before I start a project. It make a huge difference.

Are you prepping for Hilary? I've put all the loose stuff away. Rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

My eyes sprung open this morning @ 3:33AM (call of nature) but today we were planning on driving to NorCal with a planned AIS (***-in-seat) time of 5AM. Oh well, since I was awake anyway I woke up my girlfriend and we were gone by 4AM.

Made it to Auburn, CA by a little after 11AM - whew, I'm tired.

B-I-L is having some health issues so GF came to help her sister take care of him. She'll be here a couple weeks at least. I plan to head home in a day or two - a bit concerned about flooding at home.

I was asked to install some grab bars in two bathrooms for the BIL to use now that he's laid up. UGH, but sure why not? I was dragging *** but got it done. A couple trips to Home Depot and "Bob's your uncle".

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Smart! I take a couple before I start a project. It make a huge difference.

Are you prepping for Hilary? I've put all the loose stuff away. Rather be safe than sorry.

Hilary is why I'm heading home Sunday. We are about 2 blocks below a small dam. Same BIL & SIL I mentioned above lived a block closer for about 17 years but moved a long time ago. They never experienced an overflow when they lived here but times have changed with weather as we all know. I'm a little concerned. Mostly about my '55 truck getting flooded! Hope I get there in time!

 

[Bob Heine]

Dan, there is nothing good about a hurricane but based on its current track the worst part of the storm is the front right quadrant which should pass to the east of you. The forward movement of the storm added to the counter-clockwise storm winds is the cause. The bad news is the east side of the storm is also the wettest and I'm pretty sure that dam is to your east. Best thing I can suggest is to bring all the stuff you can lift into the house or garage. If my invisible friend is any help, I've put in a request to keep the winds slow enough to keep your new gazebo safe as well as the solar panels. Just remember, nothing you own is worth your life so don't do any of the stupid stuff I do.

 

[PugetDude]

Dan, I never thought you would express concerns about Hillary, but here we are.

Stay safe! Sounds like it may get interesting...

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Arrived in Auburn, CA yesterday about 11am. Left for return to Glendora this morning about 930 after hearing all the shouting and gnashing of teeth in the news about the storm. Arrived home just after 5pm tonight. Anyway, over 900 miles in about 36 hours is too much for my back in a Rubicon-sprung Jeep.

I'm sure you guys that have actually experienced a hurricane will laugh at my feeble attempt to anchor my Gazebo using a technique we use when lakeside with an EZ-UP. 5 gallon buckets of water strapped to the four corners. The water is only about 40 lbs so a total of 160 lbs which is less than most adult men. Isn't really gonna do a damn thing if we get hit by strong winds. Of course we're not going to experience a hurricane and even a true tropical storm likely. The weight of the gazebo itself is several hundred pounds. I'm guessing in the 350-450 range.

I realized I'd left one window on our toad Fiat down a few inches, put that up. Battened down all the hatches and I'm watching the 2nd game of a Dodgers double header after listening to the first game on the highway. All is well til whatever wind and rain arrives. I suppose if truly heavy winds arrive I will break out the Ramset with some washers and attempt some permanent anchoring. Wish me luck.

 

[kaymccampbell]

@Dan in Pasadena , didn't you screw it down with tapcons? Those things won't let go.

 

[PugetDude]

Dump a bag of redi-mix in your water buckets to keep that new gazebo from taking up residence across town... Maybe two buckets at each corner. Cheap insurance.

 

[rharman]

Looks like it's slowing down to a tropical storm and likely passing east of us.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Looks like it's slowing down to a tropical storm and likely passing east of us.

I hope so. Hope it's overblown (instead of ME being overblown!). Nope on Tapcons.

 

[kaymccampbell]

I hope so. Hope it's overblown (instead of ME being overblown!). Nope on Tapcons.

WTF not? They're easy and good.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

WTF not? They're easy and good.

Just haven't had time - I had to drive 400 miles and back.

After this big storm (so far, a bust. We'll see what happens later today) I'll go take a look at them. I've never used them before. Big, nearly 1/2" holes in the gazebo base plates so I assume I have to drill pilot holes?

 

[kaymccampbell]

Just haven't had time - I had to drive 400 miles and back.

After this big storm (so far, a bust. We'll see what happens later today) I'll go take a look at them. I've never used them before. Big, nearly 1/2" holes in the gazebo base plates so I assume I have to drill pilot holes?

Yup. It says the pilot hole size on the package. You need to drill about an inch deeper than the tapcon. Then you blow out the hole with compressed air, a couple times. Then drive your tapcon. Rotary hammer is the best for drilling concrete. ****** little buzzer hammer drills are not your friend. Don't go hog wild with the impact driver when installing the tapcons. You can strip the hole.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I think I mentioned my neighbor bought the same gazebo. His is not painted like mine but the same otherwise.

He hasn't had time to bolt his down either. But he's been home while I was away. Here is his temporary restraining effort!

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Yup. It says the pilot hole size on the package. You need to drill about an inch deeper than the tapcon. Then you blow out the hole with compressed air, a couple times. Then drive your tapcon. Rotary hammer is the best for drilling concrete. ****** little buzzer hammer drills are not your friend. Don't go hog wild with the impact driver when installing the tapcons. You can strip the hole.

Kay, I have an old big, corded 1/2" Porter Cable hammer drill and also my Milwaukee M18 Fuel drill driver that has a hammer setting - which may well fall into the "****** little buzzer hammer drill" you mention. This is the kind of thing that makes me uncomfortable using a fastener I've never used before. If I end up accidentally stripping out the pilot hole then I'm up schist creek. I'd rather avoid that. Makes me want to go through the extra work(?) of using a wedge anchor like a "Redhead."

 

[kaymccampbell]

Kay, I have an old big, corded 1/2" Porter Cable hammer drill and also my Milwaukee M18 Fuel drill driver that has a hammer setting - which may well fall into the "****** little buzzer hammer drill" you mention. This is the kind of thing that makes me uncomfortable using a fastener I've never used before. If I end up accidentally stripping out the pilot hole then I'm up schist creek. I'd rather avoid that. Makes me want to go through the extra work(?) of using a wedge anchor like a "Redhead."

Redhead can split the concrete so near the edge.
Just be 'cautious' driving the tapcon. Watch closely as it closes on clamping the bracket to the concrete. Don't be that guy rattling away for a minute or so after it closes the gap, just to be sure.

 

[LeonardY]

I hope so. Hope it's overblown (instead of ME being overblown!). Nope on Tapcons.

I'm getting about 1/2" per hour. We've gotten about 4 inches so far. No wind to speak of.

To add insult to injury. There was a 5.1 earthquake out in Ojay. been about 12 2.1 to 3.9 aftershocks.

 

[PugetDude]

Dan, I've never had any issues with Tapcons. Much easier than Redheads. Smaller hole, quicker to install.
Get something on that structure. Soon.
Paralysis by Analysis isn't going to help when the storm hits.
Good luck, hope you and your GF stay safe.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Dan, I've never had any issues with Tapcons. Much easier than Redheads. Smaller hole, quicker to install.
Get something on that structure. Soon.
Paralysis by Analysis isn't going to help when the storm hits.
Good luck, hope you and your GF stay safe.

Thanks PD, The storm is passing through or maybe it's "by" now. Its raining steadily but relatively lightly and there is little to no wind. They had forecast the worst of it would be about 4pm but nothing much happened.

I think (hope?) we're good for this storm. I will definitely get to the anchoring soon but it won't be tonight.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Much ado over nothing in Glendora.

A bunch of trees fell in other areas but no one hurt so it's a win!

 

[LeonardY]

Much ado over nothing in Glendora.

A bunch of trees fell in other areas but no one hurt so it's a win!

We got about 6.5 inches of rain. It was a steady downpour from about 7AM. We are at 25" of rain this year. Normal is around 12"
Little or no wind.
Other than my gutter at the back separating, there was no damage. Hopefully, new brackets arrive today.
All my grass has greened up.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

The usual task but but with plenty of water the hot season plants go absolutely nuts and FAST.

I trim these lantana hedges monthly, a little less often in the winter. This time was less than TWO WEEKS! Totally out of control. Had grown a foot over the entry walkway. I could only trim the sides because I don't have more trash can room. I couldn't even trim the tops because of no spoeace for the clippings. I may have to order a 2nd yard bin to have on hand all the time.

I like working in my yard but I'm thinking about hiring a gardener JUST to avoid having to do this - plus they'd take the clippings! I'm coming up on age 69 in 3 months. I hate using age as an excuse for anything but at 70 next year I may call it - "ollie, ollie, all in free, free, free!!"!
Danny doesn't have to trim the hedges anymore, sheesh.