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jonesg

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Was trying to remove the bottom bracket bearings out of an old steel bike. 3/8 ratcheting breaker bar. Wasn’t abusing it, and really didn’t think I had a whole lot of force on it.

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it looks sintered powder metal ****, not forged, black pot metal.
 

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Getting rid of the 20% coupon. FAIL. Or could be considered a PASS as now I'm way less likely to go there and so hopefully i'll feel less guilty about my role in killing the planet by buying cheap disposable junk :)

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Getting rid of the 20% coupon. FAIL. Or could be considered a PASS as now I'm way less likely to go there and so hopefully i'll feel less guilty about my role in killing the planet by buying cheap disposable junk :)

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That and stopping the catalogs. Since then I've only bought a couple of things.
I used to read the catalogs and mark things to buy.

Now my club membership has expired and i just don't feel the need to renew.
 

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I bought one of those HFT ratcheting breakers a few years back. Great idea, but it only lasted a couple of weeks and the ratchet was slipping. It was a very handy tool when it was still working.
 

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That and stopping the catalogs. Since then I've only bought a couple of things.
I used to read the catalogs and mark things to buy.

When my Dad died, we considered sending a letter of condolences to the local Harbor Freight manager because of the drop in sales they were about to experience... :evil: Hope the store made it.

So I hit the point a while back where I pretty much have everything I might imaginably want or need that HF sells or has some advantage in. For example, my hydraulic press, tool cart, roto ratchets etc. and so on.

Nowadays I just scan the emails for anything new that might be interesting.

For example, my last several purchases have been LED shop lights and rechargeable work lights.


Honestly, I'm glad they don't have those stupid 20% off coupons any more. There was too much fine print, and the checkouts can move twice as fast now that every other squeaker isn't whining and crying over his damn discount.



I never understood a "ratcheting breaker bar" ...isnt that just a ratchet??

Yeah, these never seemed like a good idea. A big beefy ratchet seems like it would be a hell of a lot stronger. One of those "why does this exist?" tools. :dunno:
 

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I have a 24" and 36" Snap On breaker bars and a 1/2" long handle Flex ratchet I can't remember when the last time I grabbed the breaker bar first unless using for a backup with the impact gun, I've broken the direction lever on the ratchet(dropped off the lift) but never the ratchet itself.
 

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Battery powered liquid transfer pump, SKU #63847. Huge pass, very happy with it. I’ve been using one for almost two years to transfer used motor oil from my under-lift collection drum to plastic jugs for recycling. It’s not the fastest thing in the world, but it works, is still going strong after two years, and it’s dirt cheap. $10 regular price, and I picked up another one for $7 this past weekend. This one I’ll use for fuel only.

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The Bremen pliers are another big pass - I stocked up on more of these this past weekend too. They’re made well (no problems in two years of use) and that female 1/4” square drive in the adjustment knob of the bigger ones is SUPER useful. Being able to tighten/loosen locked pliers with a 1/4” ratchet on the end of these is probably my favorite feature on them.

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Was trying to remove the bottom bracket bearings out of an old steel bike. 3/8 ratcheting breaker bar. Wasn’t abusing it, and really didn’t think I had a whole lot of force on it.

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Those lasted longer with a hose clamp around them. Some of my guys tried them. Hilariously bad tool.
 

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I picked up the Bauer portable bandsaw last week and have already used it a good bit - Pass.

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-amp-deep-cut-variable-speed-band-saw-kit-64194.html


Two things to note.

1 - Get quality blades for it; Dewalt, Milwaukee, etc. Not the HF blades.

2 - On mine the heads of the screws that hold down the blade plate were too wide to fit all the way down in the trough of the stamped blade plate. This caused the plate to be tilted and the saw to cut a little crooked. I reduced the screw head diameter until they set down properly in the trough. Now the plate sits square to the blade and the saw cuts straight.

Before and after screw head modification.

I know this is a late response, but a fair bit of the HF porta band blades are actually US made by Morse.
 

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I wasn't going to bother mentioning this one but ah what the heck, it's a PASS for me both in functionality & price. Was only $4.19 with the past 30% coupon.


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a couple of Harbor Freight stuff i can provide some input on:

Bandfile belt sander - I noticed today that this was on clearance so i am guessing they will be replacing the Chicago Electric version with a Bauer one. Anyway i was going to say this is great. had some metal work i needed to do on a door frame. Excellent tool and a great value. Actually surprised no one else makes an M12 version (are you listening Milwaukee??) This is a good value and at the $35 price, it is being clearanced at a real value. PASS62863_zzz_500.jpg

Bought this planer a while ago but finally got around to using it . So long ago i remember using a 20 % coupon on this. Does what a planer is supposed to do and decent quality PASS
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Put this up a year ago and finally can give a good report. Has held up well over the winter. (good idea to knock off heavy snow btw) but this is a good product for a reasonable cost. It is 17 x 20 but has kept a project going. PASS Only lessons learned i can pass on. I installed this on a gravel driveway and could have done a better job securing the bottom so there is some wear on that. Not the fault of the product, but i would say pretty durable. I have reinforced wear areas with duct tape. Still would get one again

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jgromada - I’ve used the HF tents for years. I have 3, one in northern Maine. My oldest one is about 8yrs old.
I use 4x6 pt as a base frame and screwed the frame to it. One is open at the door, and the other 2 are boxed. I then layed out a bunch of free pallets down inside and screwed down plywood to make a raised floor.
Next, I secured 2 20x20 HD tarps over the top to protect the cover from UV damage. When a tarp needs to be replaced, I just turn it sideways and add a new tarp on top. I secure the tarps with bungees to the PT frame with eye bolts. Put a piece of EMT pipe through the pocket at the bottom of the door.

The last thing I did was put a grommet over each of the Velcro straps on the door and used a pair of bunge-balls to hold the door up. The Velcro can fail with age.

The one in Maine has held up for a few years, but I haven’t been able to check on it in almost 2yrs, so it may be a crushed heap by the time I can get to it in august. 🤞

These are much cheaper than ShelterLogic, and hold up just as well if maintained.
 
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jgromada - I’ve used the HF tents for years. I have 3, one in northern Maine. My oldest one is about 8yrs old.
I use 4x6 pt as a base frame and screwed the frame to it. One is open at the door, and the other 2 are boxed. I then layed out a bunch of free pallets down inside and screwed down plywood to make a raised floor.
Next, I secured 2 20x20 HD tarps over the top to protect the cover from UV damage. When a tarp needs to be replaced, I just turn it sideways and add a new tarp on top. I secure the tarps with bungees to the PT frame with eye bolts. Put a piece of EMT pipe through the pocket at the bottom of the door.

The last thing I did was put a grommet over each of the Velcro straps on the door and used a pair of bunge-balls to hold the door up. The Velcro can fail with age.

The one in Maine has held up for a few years, but I haven’t been able to check on it in almost 2yrs, so it may be a crushed heap by the time I can get to it in august. 🤞

These are much cheaper than ShelterLogic, and hold up just as well if maintained.
I had a couple of those POS tents and will never own one again. If you live anywhere with snow they will stretch, get loose and fall apart, and/or collapse. I got lucky and had a friend that had a 12X20 wood shed he gave to me for $500 and no amount of snow is going to bring it down. Cost me $150 more to have a rollback pick it up and deliver to my back yard,
 

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I bought this last week, and it works very well. pump with one arm, spray with the other. Only issue is that 4 gallons is HEAVY!
Putting the thing on your back with a full tank is tough.sprayer.jpg
 

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I bought one of those HFT ratcheting breakers a few years back. Great idea, but it only lasted a couple of weeks and the ratchet was slipping. It was a very handy tool when it was still working.




Snap-On ratchet adapter is one of the best tool purchases I've ever made.
 

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When my Dad died, we considered sending a letter of condolences to the local Harbor Freight manager because of the drop in sales they were about to experience... :evil: Hope the store made it.

So I hit the point a while back where I pretty much have everything I might imaginably want or need that HF sells or has some advantage in. For example, my hydraulic press, tool cart, roto ratchets etc. and so on.

Nowadays I just scan the emails for anything new that might be interesting.

For example, my last several purchases have been LED shop lights and rechargeable work lights.


Honestly, I'm glad they don't have those stupid 20% off coupons any more. There was too much fine print, and the checkouts can move twice as fast now that every other squeaker isn't whining and crying over his damn discount.





Yeah, these never seemed like a good idea. A big beefy ratchet seems like it would be a hell of a lot stronger. One of those "why does this exist?" tools. :dunno:
Yea, it's a ratchet, the whole point of a breaker bar is when you need so thing stronger than a ratchet.
 

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I bought this last week, and it works very well. pump with one arm, spray with the other. Only issue is that 4 gallons is HEAVY!
Putting the thing on your back with a full tank is tough.sprayer.jpg
If four gallons is too heavy then just use 2-3 gallons. It doesn’t need to be filled to work.
 

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I bought this last week, and it works very well. pump with one arm, spray with the other. Only issue is that 4 gallons is HEAVY!
Putting the thing on your back with a full tank is tough.sprayer.jpg
I have one and one strap didn't fit the tank right so I modified it to lock in like the other one. I found that bit of info on here I think. Other than that, it has worked like a charm for almost 6 years. I only go about 3 gallons or a little less when I am spraying back undergrowth from the wood lot behind my property.
 

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Not sure yet on the product, but 100% pass on HF Customer Service.

I purchased a 9500Watt Super Quiet Inverter Generator on May 8th. It work(ed) great, good on gas, quiet, etc.

At an event on Labor Day week, at 260 hours, it stopped running (3 oil changes in that time, FYI) After digging around and bypassing the CO2 detector (apparently a common issue) I pulled the valve cover and found one of the valves was seized open.

Like an idiot, I did NOT buy the 2 year warranty. I intended to, I had just gotten the HF card at the time to get the 10% extra off on this (and the 5% back) and it had a starter credit limit of $2k and I figured I would pay off the card and go back and buy the warranty within the 30 days and basically forgot all about it.

So, today I drained it of gas and oil and took it back to my closest store and nicely told them the 100% truth and asked if they could help.


I didn't even have to go to the manager, the regular counter guy was fine with returning it as long as I bought the extended warranty on the new one. When he rang it up, because it was past the 90 days, there was a 20% restock fee and he was super apologetic about it (the store manager may have been able to over-ride, not sure)

I also had to pay the difference between the $1799 price I paid the first time and the current $1999 price, but regardless I saved about $1600 off what it would have cost to get a new one and extended warranty when they didn't have to do anything for me.

I am pretty sure the valve issue on the first one is an isolated incident (based on reviews/internet) and this is pretty much the only quiet generator that will run the stuff I need to run, so consider me a very happy customer.

Maybe I am just lucky, but it seems like almost all of the staff I deal with at HF is very helpful and, well, happy, especially compared to other stores since Covid where they are doing you a favor letting you ask a question.

DaveW
 

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If it's a TOOL, that is going to get used and possibly abused, and you need it to LAST, then it's an automatic fail.
If it just an item that doesn't really see hard work, and/or it lasting isn't important, then it's a pass, I guess.

And... If you need it RIGHT THIS SECOND for a job you are doing, and do not have anywhere else that would have a quality tool, then it's a pass for the immediate "pinch", but not long term.
 
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If it's a TOOL, that is going to get used and possibly abused, and you need it to LAST, then it's an automatic fail.
If it just an item that doesn't really see hard work, and/or it lasting isn't important, then it's a pass, I guess.

And... If you need it RIGHT THE SECOND for a job you are doing, and do not have anywhere else that would have a quality tool, then it's a pass for the immediate "pinch", but not long term.
Well, it wasn't exactly a tool, but I bought one of the harbor freight red trailer frames and it abused it a lot and It never failed me. It was destroyed when loaded it with over twice it's capacity in scrap metaI, hitched it up behind a 73 International Harvester pickup truck and the wheel of the trailer got stuck in a very deep hole. The whole A frame on the front just trusted like a wet noodle. But I can't blame the trailer. I don't think there's a 1700lb capacity trailer from anyone that could have survived that.

I also have the harbor freight load balancing hitch with a sway damper that appears to be the exact same one you buy for a fortune from the RV dealers. I've never had a problem with it and Ive towed a 10000 pound trailer around with it.

The magnetic parts dishes are good. Its one of those things where you have to ask, how could you screw it up. I guess you could use too weak of magnet it something.

The bearing and seal driver kits are good. It's a bunch of pieces of aluminum with a handle. You shouldn't be pounding on it so hard you'd destroy it anyway.

The Centech 11 fuction multimeters are really good. The first one I bought was the same Meyer but sold by a local electronics shop. I had it for 10 years. The second I had was from harbor freight. The second one lasted a couple of years I til a starter was dropped on it. The third one I've had for about 4 or 5 years and it still works fine. I have a nice Agilent one now, but I end grabbing whichever one is handy most of the time.

The snap off blade box cutters are good as well. It's the same thing that's sold pretty much everywhere. It's just a box cutter. It cuts boxes. Maybe some stay sharper longer, maybe not. If it cuts boxes and it doesn't fall apart in my hand, I call it a good one.

The harbor freight clear epoxy is total garbage. It never really hardens past a rubbery consistency and bubbles for in it when it cures so it becomes cloudy.

Almost any sort of abrasive is junk. The one exception is the set of small (maybe 3/4 or 1") diamond wheels for dremel tools. They work very well. I use them to sharpen carbide cutting tools.

The strikers (like to light a torch) are as good as any other. What can I say, it's a striker. It lights the torch. Not fancy but it works.

The oxyfuel welding tips and rosebud tips are good. They fit certain models of Victor torches and work as well as any other.

The welding goggles for oxyfuel are good. They are just those standard green rubber goggles with shade 5 green lenses. Hard to screw up.

Their welding gloves are fine. They do t fall apart and are sufficiently thick that you don't get burned.

Their "split leather work gloves with cotton back" in the 5 pack are good. They are the same ones you see every where from walmart to tractor supply. Just for a lower price.

Their nitrile gloves are good. I've never had an issue with them. I probably wouldn't order them for a lab working with highly toxic substances. (And by highly toxic I mean things where a very small amount will kill you). I have no evidence they are not the same as any other nitrile glove, but I'd just order Ansel because I know I can trust them to be exactly what they are supposed to. Some cheap brands claim to be thicker than they really are.

That being said, the harbor freight ones work fine for anything else. Like keeping paint thinner or paint or grease off your hands. Buy whatever glove feels thick enough for your application. I particularly like the 9mil ones. They are a bit inconsistent on thickness varying between 7 and 9 mild, but work well and are more durable than the thin ones.

The small 2" C clamps are good. Ive never broken one. I do t think a clamp that size really generates enough force to break itself unless you use a pair of vice grips to overt tighten it. Even after I've overheated then with a torch.

Their exactly style knives are junk. The blades so t hold an edge and the handles won't hold a blade.
 
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needed a creeper at spur of the moment so i got a pittsburg. was $20 or so and i knew full well what kind of junk i was buying but figured i could be happy if it would last a couple months until i get a good qaulity one. wasnt long before a wheel broke off but i fully expected it to happen

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needed a creeper at spur of the moment so i got a pittsburg. was $20 or so and i knew full well what kind of junk i was buying but figured i could be happy if it would last a couple months until i get a good qaulity one. wasnt long before a wheel broke off but i fully expected it to happen

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The wheels on the one I bought didn't last a day, but I knew better................................
 

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If it's a TOOL, that is going to get used and possibly abused, and you need it to LAST, then it's an automatic fail.
If it just an item that doesn't really see hard work, and/or it lasting isn't important, then it's a pass, I guess.

And... If you need it RIGHT THE SECOND for a job you are doing, and do not have anywhere else that would have a quality tool, then it's a pass for the immediate "pinch", but not long term.
Not to be argumentative, but this blanket statement is silly in this day and age. Even with snap-on, there are items that aren't as good as other brands (and by definition, almost every other brand is cheaper. ANd among stuff you can go to a store and get, some is good, some *****. I have had brand name stuff be complete junk and HF surprise me with the quality and durability. And vice versa.

DaveW
 

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If it's a TOOL, that is going to get used and possibly abused, and you need it to LAST, then it's an automatic fail.
If it just an item that doesn't really see hard work, and/or it lasting isn't important, then it's a pass, I guess.

And... If you need it RIGHT THE SECOND for a job you are doing, and do not have anywhere else that would have a quality tool, then it's a pass for the immediate "pinch", but not long term.
Still have my compressor, floor jack, shop crane, engine stand, jack stands, and a bunch of other stuff I can't think of off the top of my head.

Even would have kept the $50 1/2" impact (IR 231 clone) if the ones I bought didn't require you to change the speed dial every time you changed directions just to get full power. The max power was pretty respectable but the constant fiddling was annoying.
 

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PASSSSSS +++++++++ Pittsburgh 12v portable air compressor item number 63184. I bought this with little hope but many friends in the off roading community have recommended it. I need one for the winter time slack tire blues. I've aired up 3 of my vehicles one has 41 psi rating for the tires. It went from 31 psi to 53 psi in just about 1:30 seconds. I was shocked. I was also worried I killed my TPMS sensor. It was fine. The tire size was 245-45-17. I haven't tried it on my son's truck running commercial tires with an 80psi rating. I feel it will do well. Two things, the gauge is **** and the tire chuck is the screw on type. I'm looking to change that. The hose in meh but ok for occasional topping up of tires. It has out done the Vair compressors I had in the past that died quickly. Maybe I can come up with a way to inject a little lubrication into it to keep the head from dying too quickly. Whatever you do, do not dead head this 12v compressor by trying to use a blow gun or something that completely stops the flow of air.



Hard fail. I had this hot dog compressor 97080 and it failed. I used it less but over two or three years. It wouldn't run my staple gun reliably at it spec'd psi range of 30-45 psi., and after 3 or 4 staples it ran for 5 minutes to top itself off. I was using the 1/4 inch yellow coiled air line kit that HF sells. Maybe if I'd had a 3/8 inch hose and fittings, it would have done better. It would have used way more air. Also, these are going away as most of those Central Pneumatic branded comps are.



I think I may put this little 12V compressor on the 3 gallon hot dog compressor tank and wire it to the pressure limit switch so it only tops off the tank instead of running constantly. I've looked into it. The 12v compressor can used the 100psi pressure switch to operate a relay to switch power off and on as needed. The switch is not AC/DC sensitive. The 12v compressor is rated for 150psi. I would never push it more than 100psi.

This brings me to another topic. When I start my Youtube channel later this winter, I plan to do a video diagnosing the hot dog comps failure. I haven't dissected it yet. I also want to do a video on adapting the 12V compressor to the hot dog compressor's air tank. There will be several videos about these compressors and my intended uses and modifications.
 

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I've got that HF compressor and the one that's a step down; HF 12v 100PSI compressor . I bought the larger one to air up my truck tires as the dealer would rotate them and leave the front tires ten pounds too low. I tested it and for what works out to be a 35x12.5x17 going from 45psi to 55psi it took about four minutes (going from memory). That's a big tire and pretty high pressure for a 12v compressor. The QD on the air hose got really hot!

The smaller compressor I tested on a 235x75x15, 25 to 35 psi in about a minute and a half. A note about this compressor is that it draws 15A and a lot 12v ports on cars won't handle that. I bought a 12v to battery adapter off amazon that works great.
12v to battery terminal adapter
 

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I've got that HF compressor and the one that's a step down; HF 12v 100PSI compressor . I bought the larger one to air up my truck tires as the dealer would rotate them and leave the front tires ten pounds too low. I tested it and for what works out to be a 35x12.5x17 going from 45psi to 55psi it took about four minutes (going from memory). That's a big tire and pretty high pressure for a 12v compressor. The QD on the air hose got really hot!

The smaller compressor I tested on a 235x75x15, 25 to 35 psi in about a minute and a half. A note about this compressor is that it draws 15A and a lot 12v ports on cars won't handle that. I bought a 12v to battery adapter off amazon that works great.
12v to battery terminal adapter
The one in my post comes with battery terminal clips aka the nasty alligator clips that like to bite your fingers. LMAO! You're right, those 35s are pretty stout tires for a 12v comp. I'm surprised you don't have on board air. My off road vehicles had on board air using a York engine driven compressor with the clutch rigged to a 135 psi switch mounted in the 10 gallon frame mounted air tank(s). My off pavement activities has been done for a while now. I'm not sure if it can be done on new rigs. Room and belt routing being the two major issues. The Vairs I mention were used in my low riders.
 
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