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kctyphoon
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So real question for you guys that own the string trimmer.. I have mine out of the box, nothing attached to it.. if I place a fully charged 9.0 in it, and hold trigger down - there is a noticeable vibration by the motor.. not "vibration" as in a well balanced electric motor is running inside a tool - it's more like something feels not balanced, and creates a noticeable vibration while running, and I can hear the plastic housing around the motor vibrating a little as well.. is this normal, or do you guys a have a "perfectly balanced" trimmer with no real noticeable vibrations in the handle/shaft while you're holding it??
Wondering if I should exchange it or not.. I should probably take the blower out of the box and check that too..
Edit.. I think it's actually the battery I hear vibrating... still a vibration though..
Wondering if I should exchange it or not.. I should probably take the blower out of the box and check that too..
Edit.. I think it's actually the battery I hear vibrating... still a vibration though..
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kctyphoon
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fordgasm
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Why would Milwaukee not make caps for their inkzall markers that actually secure on the back of the marker? Seems idiotic to me to have a marker that doesn’t do that.
Jeeper
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What bit/attachment is on there?
anndel
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Mine is like that also. It seems something is off balance but when you have line on it runs smoother.
kctyphoon
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That's a greenlee nr1 "nut runner". 7/16 hex drive impact, that has an adapter for the flip socket. Each side of that socket does 2 different sizes of square nuts. 1"/1&1/8" on one side, 3/4"&5/8" I think on the other.. it's a hollow socket so you can tighten a nut on a bolt that has up to 6" (I think) of thread protruding out. Flip socket is held onto the adapter with just a ball retention.. that's the only bad part. Makes for quick and easy socket changing, but don't put the gun down in a holster without removing the socket cause it can fall off pretty easy.. I wish it had some kind of lock on it - but that's why brands like Klein and Milwaukee and making a non flip version that does 3 sizes now.
Greenlee makes another model with different sizes.. Klein has their version also. Maybe one or two other brands as well.
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kctyphoon
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Ok. So maybe it's fine then.. yea it's definitely the battery vibrating that a hear, just didn't expect so much vibration. Maybe it's from the shaft inside the handle making things off balance when spinning?
scarrylarry
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Hey kctyphoon
Is that a hex driver or an impact ? Hard for me to tell with that setup you have on the end
Thanks
scarrylarry
kctyphoon
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The wide ones do.. the smaller model is too tight of a fit. I have one of each right in front of me. Lol
kctyphoon
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It's a 7/16 hex drive impact wrench.. it's basically a de-tuned version of the 1/2" high torque with a different drive up front.
Think 1/4" impact driver on steroids and growth hormone..
And that square drive on the end of the socket adapter is not 1/2".. it's something weird like 5/8. You can't put a regular socket on that adapter, only that flip socket. It's actually square, and then round past the square part. Part of the socket drive and retention design. but you can get, and I have, a 7/16 hex to 1/2" square adapters that have ball or pin detents. So you can use the gun (without all that **** I have in front of it obviously) like a regular impact, it's just not as strong as the 1/2 high torque.
I ASSUME it's tuned down to prolong tool life, since this will run sustained impacts for a lot longer periods of time, and also not strong enough to break whatever the smaller bolt size is that uses the 3/4" square nuts.
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DerekV
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JettaGetUpandGo
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I'm shocked there are no infringement issues of any kind with another company using and advertising the M18 battery on their product.
Voi
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Are the Milwaukee's shaft drive? I thought the motor was down by the head?
hoston23
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most likely they have a contract with milwaukee to use there product. i have seen some other products that use a milwaukee battery.
Sloper0204
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I'll snag a picture today of one of our pieces of specialty equipment that runs on M18 batteries, it happens more than you would suspect.
beamrider
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I can't specifically speak to the Milwaukee, but I bought the 58v Echo trimmer this summer, and I've got the same issue. I actually returned 4 of them before I figured it out (at least I think I figured it out). I think that noise is present on all gas trimmers, you just can't hear it over the noise of the gas engine. If it uses a flex shaft, then it makes sense because the shaft probably tends to vibrate a lot more. Mine sounds like the bearings are shot, but every one I tried sounded the same. I thought being a brushless motor would have made for a lot quieter tool.
rippledabs
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Great idea, responsible lithium ion user
Question: when you put new cells in, were you able to disconnect/replace the cells without keeping ~18v on the pack's circuit board? I ask because there's a YouTube video where the guy was afraid of completely cutting off voltage to the board since he suspected that it would lock out the pack and render it useless...so he did the cell swap power always feeding the board. Looked like a total PITA.
Found it:
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I've been wanting to put some of the brown LG 3Ah cells in one of my 2.0 packs as an experiment but I don't have the patience to add all of those tiny wires like this YouTuber does!
No, you don't need to apply 18V. You can if you want to keep the stored age and charge cycle. If you disconnect the 18V, the memory just resets. Also, after you recell it, you need to stick it on a milwaukee charger. It does some kind of communication to reset the microcontroller. I'm at 210 charge cycle on the new cells right now and still going strong. M18 lantern last about 8 hours on high. I am using 2200 mAH tenergy cells. Not the highest capacity, but it's cheap.
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Jimithing616
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There are TONS of off brand tools that use dewalt batteries....
Off the top of my head there is the Grace handheld Airless spray paint gun that uses the 20v batteries and then MAC tools cordless line is all just dewalt battery based, they color them red but they are interchangeable with the normal dewalt batteries....I'm sure there are many other examples I'm forgetting...
Jimithing616
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I'm jealous....
I've been waiting for there to be some kind of deal on these....
I was tempted to buy the drill/impact fuel kit and take the non fuel 3/8 ratchets as my free bare tool but I instead chose to wait for the new gen 2 drill and impact as the gen 1 are too big to use as a true compact set and I also would prefer the fuel version of the 3/8 ratchet
To anyone who has the ratchet in both fuel and non fuel... is there a noticeable difference in either power or weight/ergonomics of the ratchet?
garagelogician
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Jimithing616
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They are showing as not in stock but coming soon or pre order for January 15th on the acme tools website and others I have checked....
Here's a link http://http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2598-22
Fuel is much heavier, and bigger. I opted for the non fuel.
garagelogician
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That is alarming and unfortunate. Without a ton of trees or sidewalks to blow off...being able to quickly blow off light fluffy snow was a big part of why I purchased it.
garagelogician
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Alright guys, I'm in the market for a 3/8" Milwaukee Fuel impact, but I can't decide between the M12 and M18.
I already have the 1/2" High Torque M18 for the big and rusty stuff, I also have the 1st gen 3/8" ratchet and the new 1/4" Fuel ratchet. Plenty of M12 and M18 batteries, so that isn't a factor.
Which would you go with? M12 for its compact size, or M18 for a little extra oomph? I mainly wrench on my personal cars, among other misc. projects. I've had my eye on this impact set, so I need something to spin it.
I already have the 1/2" High Torque M18 for the big and rusty stuff, I also have the 1st gen 3/8" ratchet and the new 1/4" Fuel ratchet. Plenty of M12 and M18 batteries, so that isn't a factor.
Which would you go with? M12 for its compact size, or M18 for a little extra oomph? I mainly wrench on my personal cars, among other misc. projects. I've had my eye on this impact set, so I need something to spin it.
DerekV
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Jimithing616
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M18 Fuel kit with "free" packout.
They also have the fuel Sawzall kit with the bottom/rolling portion of the pack out as "free"
Didn't look into it but looks like it qualifies for the free tool promo.
I saw that at HD too but to me it didn't look like the sawzall kit did qualify for the free tool... just the 2 drill impact kits and the miter saw.... I'd be interested in knowing for sure tho....
On another note I'm shocked to hear the m12 fuel ratchets are bigger and heavier than the non fuel... why? Lol. Isn't the point of brushless to be more compact or am I missing something... admittedly I do miss things so it wouldn't be a shock.
DFB
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I would say get yourself the 2754 3/8" Fuel compact impact (just as an FYI the main body of that tool is smaller than the current M12 3/8") but gives about double max torque so it may cover more applications in between grabbing that monster High Torque
The bigger difference at least to me anyways is that battery is more of a protrusion on the M18 than the slimly fitting just inside the handle design as on the M12 Fuel.
Since this IS the Milwaukee Addiction thread may I suggest a 2453 1/4" hex Fuel impact as another additional tool to your wrenching arsenal They are most often found for a lot less money than the 3/8 2454. Maybe as low as $75 new sometimes.
I really that one for using longer extension bars (6" 0r 12) They are lighter and even sometimes cheaper you get a positive retention vs using a ring anvil
garagelogician
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I would say get yourself the 2754 3/8" Fuel compact impact (just as an FYI the main body of that tool is smaller than the current M12 3/8") but gives about double max torque so it may cover more applications in between grabbing that monster High Torque
The bigger difference at least to me anyways is that battery is more of a protrusion on the M18 than the slimly fitting just inside the handle design as on the M12 Fuel.
Since this IS the Milwaukee Addiction thread may I suggest a 2453 1/4" hex Fuel impact as another additional tool to your wrenching arsenal They are most often found for a lot less money than the 3/8 2454. Maybe as low as $75 new sometimes.
I really that one for using longer extension bars (6" 0r 12) They are lighter and even sometimes cheaper you get a positive retention vs using a ring anvil
I already have the 2453 1/4" hex, so I'm good there. Contemplating a future purchase of the 2860 1/2" mid torque, so that makes me lean towards the M12 2454 because I will only be using it on smaller fasteners.
DFB
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Still a big difference between the mid torque and the compact. I have yet found the need to bridge that gap. I also have a Gen 1 High Torque along with compacts. My old 2655B 1/2 is my fav in M18. I debate whether to replace THAT or go Mid Torque. If I have my druthers I'd think I could easily toss the 2754 from my lineup
So sounds like you will be happy with 2454 purchase. I do like the one I have. In general it will quickly bust loose most anything non rusted and under 1/2" in bolt size. And overall is slightly more powerful and much more convenient than using socket adapters on a 1/4" hex drive impact (always that chance of breaking those adapters too)
bcradio
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For working on cars/auto, the M18 would be better. For general use around the house, the M12 is better.
Look at what you want to use it for.
Me? I use the M12 more because as a DIY guy, I work on stuff around the house more than on the cars (it's not like my cars are breaking down every other week). If your hobby is auto work then I would go for the M18 though.
kctyphoon
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Dewalt and Mac tools are both owned by Stanley Black and Decker as of a few years ago (for Mac tools). That's why the batteries swap...
Sawzall doesn't qualify for free tool promo but comes with the rolling cart portions of the pack out.
So basically you need to buy 3 tool kits to complete a pack out set. Like the one they had on pro Black Friday.
kctyphoon
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Packout set available anywhere for the $199 still? I heard it was on national backorder.. lol
I got a store with 3 of them stack up on the rafters. Waiting for it to hit clearance hahaha
DFB
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2 weeks ago my buddy at the Motorcycle shop was having fits trying to grease his dump body plow truck before a big snowstorm and for some crazy reason 2 grease guns he had just weren't cutting it and we started talking about the cordless ones.
He said someone he knew told him that they sucked at least one this person got at the TSC store
Lincoln maybe? Don't really know what they do sell never much looked. Can hardly stand to go in there most times. I do get grease there though sometimes
So I took the M12 grease gun I use for my tractor/loader to the shop today to show him and we greased the dump. 2446-21 kit
He really liked the ease of it and I think he is sold on it. I mentioned the M18 version has more features but the longer hose was about all he was interested in though.
I have to find the best price. I think I paid $154 for a -21 kit (was a while ago definitely more than a year) but I think I can get him better than that now. Will need a kit though he has no Milwaukee cordless tools at all.
He said someone he knew told him that they sucked at least one this person got at the TSC store
Lincoln maybe? Don't really know what they do sell never much looked. Can hardly stand to go in there most times. I do get grease there though sometimes So I took the M12 grease gun I use for my tractor/loader to the shop today to show him and we greased the dump. 2446-21 kit
He really liked the ease of it and I think he is sold on it. I mentioned the M18 version has more features but the longer hose was about all he was interested in though.
I have to find the best price. I think I paid $154 for a -21 kit (was a while ago definitely more than a year) but I think I can get him better than that now. Will need a kit though he has no Milwaukee cordless tools at all.
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ThatSickRip
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M18 Fuel kit with "free" packout.
They also have the fuel Sawzall kit with the bottom/rolling portion of the pack out as "free"
Didn't look into it but looks like it qualifies for the free tool promo.
Figures they do that after I bought my Fuel kit and free Mid Torque. Wouldve much rather had the Pack Out then then blow mold case
one9gt
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2 weeks ago my buddy at the Motorcycle shop was having fits trying to grease his dump body plow truck before a big snowstorm and for some crazy reason 2 grease guns he had just weren't cutting it and we started talking about the cordless ones.
He said someone he knew told him that they sucked at least one this person got at the TSC store
So I took the M12 grease gun I use for my tractor/loader to the shop today to show him and we greased the dump. 2446-21 kit
He really liked the ease of it and I think he is sold on it. I mentioned the M18 version has more features but the longer hose was about all he was interested in though.
I have to find the best price. I think I paid $154 for a -21 kit (was a while ago definitely more than a year) but I think I can get him better than that now. Will need a kit though he has no Milwaukee cordless tools at all.
Don't see any deals right now, but shoot Nick (fb page) a message
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I've only put about 8 hours worth of shop time in with the 2454, but the trade off of size/weight versus torque is well balanced for typical 3/8 fasteners.