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Is there a recommended m18 circular saw model? I see there’s a bunch of different models but I don’t really know the difference, other than size.

I’m looking for a do-all hobbyist saw that’s got decent power and fairly accurate. I don’t use circ saws that often so I only have room in the budget for one that will handle whatever I throw at it.


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Think this is something you can just focus on preference.. the fuel models are all a bit different. The 6.5" vs 7.25 are a left vs right blade.. then there's a rear handle model.. maybe another one now, I don't even know..

I have the older 6.5" AND the 7.25"".. honestly they are both so good there's no reason for me to wanna upgrade to anything else at my level of use. I'm sure newer models might be a bit more powerful. Esp ones that come with the biggest batteries.. but I'm happy with both of the old ones I got as bare tools.

Watch some YouTube videos, you'll get an idea of what they are.
 
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Think this is something you can just focus on preference.. the fuel models are all a bit different. The 6.5" vs 7.25 are a left vs right blade.. then there's a rear handle model.. maybe another one now, I don't even know..

I have the older 6.5" AND the 7.25"".. honestly they are both so good there's no reason for me to wanna upgrade to anything else at my level of use. I'm sure newer models might be a bit more powerful. Esp ones that come with the biggest batteries.. but I'm happy with both of the old ones I got as bare tools.

Watch some YouTube videos, you'll get an idea of what they are.



What’s your go-to? The 6.5 or 7.25?


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Is there a recommended m18 circular saw model? I see there’s a bunch of different models but I don’t really know the difference, other than size.

I’m looking for a do-all hobbyist saw that’s got decent power and fairly accurate. I don’t use circ saws that often so I only have room in the budget for one that will handle whatever I throw at it.


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Well it all depends on your blade preference and budget really.

For general carpentry saws these are your choices

There are the 2 top of line Fuel brushless 7 1/4" saws...a rear handle left side blade and top handle right side blade 2732 sidewinder and both run over $200 on average to buy new.

The 2730 6 1/2 left side blade FUEL brushless has been around for years and is a proven performer. Again it list upwards to $200 new

All Fuel saws have a magnesium baseplates

There used to be a 2731 7-1/4" Fuel right side blade saw (I have one) that's no longer in production though has been replaced by a cheapened version. The model now the 2631 it is a 7-1/4" right side but still brushless (non fuel) saw with aluminum base plate. Price tops out a bit over $150 new

Lastly the oldest design the 2630 6 1/2" brushed version with left side blade and aluminum baseplate is also tried and true and the least expensive and can be often had for slightly over $100.

There are other M18 circular saws designed for metal cutting and don't have the features often needed for carpentry work such as bevel cuts.

Based on the criteria you outlined "anything I can throw at it" most likely the single saw on M12 series a 5 3/8" left side blade FUEL saw wouldn't quite be what you want...

But IMO the most basic M18 brushed 2630 6-1/2 saw will do you fine and be the least expensive sans battery

If you want larger I would recommend the 2631 for non professional use
 

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Well it all depends on your blade preference and budget really.



For general carpentry saws these are your choices



There are the 2 top of line Fuel brushless 7 1/4" saws...a rear handle left side blade and top handle right side blade 2732 sidewinder and both run over $200 on average to buy new.



The 2730 6 1/2 left side blade FUEL brushless has been around for years and is a proven performer. Again it list upwards to $200 new



All Fuel saws have a magnesium baseplates



There used to be a 2731 7-1/4" Fuel right side blade saw (I have one) that's no longer in production though has been replaced by a cheapened version. The model now the 2631 it is a 7-1/4" right side but still brushless (non fuel) saw with aluminum base plate. Price tops out a bit over $150 new



Lastly the oldest design the 2630 6 1/2" brushed version with left side blade and aluminum baseplate is also tried and true and the least expensive and can be often had for slightly over $100.



There are other M18 circular saws designed for metal cutting and don't have the features often needed for carpentry work such as bevel cuts.



Based on the criteria you outlined "anything I can throw at it" most likely the single saw on M12 series a 5 3/8" left side blade FUEL saw wouldn't quite be what you want...



But IMO the most basic M18 brushed 2630 6-1/2 saw will do you fine and be the least expensive sans battery



If you want larger I would recommend the 2631 for non professional use



To be honest, I don’t have enough experience to have a preference on blade size or orientation. Budget isn’t a major factor, as I plan on sticking to one model, at least for the near future.

My cheapo Ryobi bogs down on plywood rips.


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To be honest, I don’t have enough experience to have a preference on blade size or orientation. Budget isn’t a major factor, as I plan on sticking to one model, at least for the near future.

My cheapo Ryobi bogs down on plywood rips.


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What's the max material thickness you're looking to cut? Just plywood, or dimensional lumber as well?
 

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To be honest, I don’t have enough experience to have a preference on blade size or orientation. Budget isn’t a major factor, as I plan on sticking to one model, at least for the near future.

My cheapo Ryobi bogs down on plywood rips.


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Though I have no clue on what THAT Ryobi saw you mention may be, but any of the M18 saws will easily plow thru plywood and cut dimensional 2X stock. :spit:

And are we to assume here your also not currently on the Milwaukee tool platform?...obviously buying a saw package that also includes batteries and a charger will change the price structure significantly. And the prices I previously quoted are mainly for a bare tool option only though there are some offers around that do add a battery as purchasing promo.

Many people of late have a preference to a left side blade saw as it can offer a clearer line of site to line your cutting and can often be easier to get a better cut especially if you don't have the experience. Historically they have been considered trim saws as they have generally been a 6 1/2" or smaller blade and are a bit lighter than their 7 1/4" counterparts. And for a right handed user it does put the body (weight) of the saw over the cutoff piece when doing crosscuts. And although with common sense shouldn't be an issue the lighter weight most often allows one handed use and frees up the other hand to hold the work piece but also can open a risk to get fingers closer to the cutting blade.

The new 2732 right side FUEL saw is a bigger saw over the earlier 2731 the one like I have and under certain demanding professional conditions that earlier saw can find its limits. The RPMs have been increased on the new saw up to 5800 RPM (5000 rpm is on all the other Brushless motors and 3500 rpm on the brushed )

The motor is larger, and that makes the saw quite a bit heavier now but the Red Lithium compatible circuitry has been optimized to take advantage of the latest HO or High Output batteries recently brought to market for increased runtime and performance.

Of course the Rear Handle 2830 is latest powerhouse for commercial work its also very big and heavy. Both saws are optimized for a 12.0 battery.

Any of the earlier saws will do just fine on a 5.0 battery for most normal cuts though the 9.0 allows a longer runtime it also adds a certain amount of weight.

Being a hobbyist and for only occasional use to me it doesn't make much sense to spring big bucks for expensive features like found on big FUEL saws. Though using a quality saw (and really any of the Milwaukee's are that) will enhance an operators performance they don't take the place of experience.

Again all up to you to decide the money you want to spend (especially if it sits mostly on a shelf) and of course the blade orientation.

I have one each style in cordless. My 6 1/2" is a brushed Makita it's small and lightweight. Its not really made for large plywood rips its a crosscut trim saw.

The brushed 2630 6 1/2" Milwaukee is larger and more powerful than the Makita and will take care of most homeowner jobs easy enough but it is older technology though and the 6 1/2" Brushless Fuel is an serious upgrade.

The new 2671 is still gets my vote for a 7 1/4" for occasional homeowner use. Solid aluminum base plate/5000rpm Get 20% discount and the saw under $150

But that's provided you already have batteries and a charger :dunno:

Milwaukee pricing structure along with promos is screwy though the 2732-20 FUEL with free HO battery is $249 on special but one would still need a rapid charger. Probably another $70.

The 2631-21 is a 5.0AH and includes the charger but is $279 before any discounts and maybe $225 total after 20% :eyecrazy:
 
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What’s your go-to? The 6.5 or 7.25?


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I like the ‘standard’ fuel 7.25 (the model that’s been out for a while) just cause the blade is on the same side as the corded models I’m use to. But honestly - I don’t use them enough to have developed a real preference. What I CAN tell you, is they were impressive when they first came out, and i expect any newer model to be even better. Even the current models of what i own may have been upgraded by now. Cordless circ saws have come a long way in the past few years. I think anything you get on the m18 fuel platform will impress you. Just rem that bigger and better models will also be heavier. If i had to build a deck, a shed, anything really - I’d have no hesitation using the more basic fuel model saws. When those first came out, everyone was grabbing them - home owners and professionals alike.

Just looking quick - it looks like they have a brushless non - fuel version too? Who can even keep up with this anymore?? Lol

For clarity - its the 2732 model I’d get if i had to rebuy another saw. It’s just easier after being used to corded models for so long. Whenever i pick up the smaller 6.5 i feel like I’m always winding up with the majority of the base hanging off the wood when i need to trim something down.
 
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I have the older 2731 and I can't really imagine ever needing anything better. It would be nice for the blade to be on the other side but that wasn't available in 7 1/4 when I bought this one so I've gotten used to it. I haven't used it a ton but any time I've had to cut 2x4, 4x4 or plywood it's done it without any problems at all. It's ridiculously nice to just grab the saw off the wall and throw a battery in it vs. having to drag an extension cord out. I re did the mailbox post a few months ago and it was super convenient.
 
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I like the ‘standard’ fuel 7.25 (the model that’s been out for a while) just cause the blade is on the same side as the corded models I’m use to. But honestly - I don’t use them enough to have developed a real preference. What I CAN tell you, is they were impressive when they first came out, and i expect any newer model to be even better. Even the current models of what i own may have been upgraded by now. Cordless circ saws have come a long way in the past few years. I think anything you get on the m18 fuel platform will impress you. Just rem that bigger and better models will also be heavier. If i had to build a deck, a shed, anything really - I’d have no hesitation using the more basic fuel model saws. When those first came out, everyone was grabbing them - home owners and professionals alike.

Just looking quick - it looks like they have a brushless non - fuel version too? Who can even keep up with this anymore?? Lol



For clarity - its the 2732 model I’d get if i had to rebuy another saw.

You have too :D

The original 2731 Fuel is no longer available from Authorized dealers

The new 2631 brushless is a slight down grade both in material and price...cheaper aluminum baseplate instead of magnesium and no longer a Fuel designation. Still its a good saw

And about 4 lbs lighter than 2732 too
 

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You have too :D

The original 2731 Fuel is no longer available from Authorized dealers

The new 2631 brushless is a slight down grade both in material and price...cheaper aluminum baseplate instead of magnesium and no longer a Fuel designation. Still its a good saw

And about 4 lbs lighter than 2732 too

Eh maybe.. ill use whatever one i grab, I’m just more use the the blade being on one side. It’s not like one is really better than another. Some prefer the opposite style blade.

2731 vs 2732 ? What did they even change? Just a new ‘tune’ to the electronics?

So, is the 2631 ‘brushless’ really a downgrade, or an Upgrade of the older brushed model??? Something to ponder... lol

I’m NOT buying another saw.. I don’t care what they change.
I’m still getting over telling someone at work I’d sell him this inversion table i have for $50, and then saw the new model on HSN being sold for $330 at my fathers house this weekend.
 
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Can you see where this is going?? The amp is only 100x100 at 27v. You can buy a power supply and plug it in. At 18 or 19v its 64 x 64.. i have like 3 sets of bookshelf speakers sitting around, so I’m gonna play with one..

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Eh maybe.. ill use whatever one i grab, I’m just more use the the blade being on one side. It’s not like one is really better than another. Some prefer the opposite style blade.

2731 vs 2732 ? What did they even change? Just a new ‘tune’ to the electronics?

So, is the 2631 ‘brushless’ really a downgrade, or an Upgrade of the older brushed model??? Something to ponder... lol

I’m NOT buying another saw..
I’m still getting over telling someone at work I’d sell him this inversion table i have for $50, and then saw the new model on HSN being sold for $330 at my fathers house this weekend.

There was no "older" 7 1/4" sidewinder cordless circular saw

So yes it truly is a downgraded version of the original 2731.

And it was long time coming too as the 2 models of 6 1/2" saws were out there for long time before that

Really it was quite quickly surpassed for the HO optimized 2732.

Kind of piss me off they no longer offer the exact model with the best FUEL features but IMO they must have figured they couldn't justify the two models being that close in price :dunno:

They did the same stunt with the 2130 tower light pushed them out and then upgraded right on their heals with ac option version the 2131
 

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Thanks for all the info and experience guys. I’m currently on the M12 platform and looking to expand into the M18 to replace my older Dewalt stuff. I do have one combo charger than came with my pex expander, but I’ll likely look to grab a few different batteries and chargers.

I figure either the circ saw or impact wrench will be my first purchase and at least one of them will be a kit. At least know I have the knowledge and understanding to make an informed decision.


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To be honest, I don’t have enough experience to have a preference on blade size or orientation. Budget isn’t a major factor, as I plan on sticking to one model, at least for the near future.

My cheapo Ryobi bogs down on plywood rips.


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ryobi's P508 brushless 7.25 saw can do 5/8 osb no problem. it goes on sale for as little as $50-60 after a battery return. it's not very rigid so it can be annoying to use (it can bind because of rigidity or how you hold it) but I haven't found it lacking power

I have the milwaukee 2732 (gen 2 left handle/right blade) and it's a badass saw

I also don't care too much about blade left vs. right. the p508 is left and 2732 is right. I'm right handed and with the 2732 I can still see the blade hitting the work piece through a nice big hole so it doesn't change how I use it
 

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Right Angle Impact Driver anyone...

I recently posted a ? regarding offset plumbing pipe wrench.
Which got me thinking.....

There have been a few handful of times I have wished I had a right angle drill....which I do own the Milwaukee Corded Right Angle drill. I cannot for the love of me remember the times where --I have needed it-- but for sure, there's been times. Just thinking on a cordless splurge...
 

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Right Angle Impact Driver anyone...

I recently posted a ? regarding offset plumbing pipe wrench.
Which got me thinking.....

There have been a few handful of times I have wished I had a right angle drill....which I do own the Milwaukee Corded Right Angle drill. I cannot for the love of me remember the times where --I have needed it-- but for sure, there's been times. Just thinking on a cordless splurge...


I have the m12.. still don’t think I’ve ever used that more than a couple times ..
 
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Right Angle Impact Driver anyone...

I recently posted a ? regarding offset plumbing pipe wrench.
Which got me thinking.....

There have been a few handful of times I have wished I had a right angle drill....which I do own the Milwaukee Corded Right Angle drill. I cannot for the love of me remember the times where --I have needed it-- but for sure, there's been times. Just thinking on a cordless splurge...

I have the m12.. still don’t think I’ve ever used that more than a couple times ..


I also have the M12 and I can agree with KC it's a can be a fairly limited use tool.

And I did purchase mine for tight access screw driving application like under cabinets and it will easily impact drive a long screw. Though the very last time remember using it was to speed up assembling my new HF tool cart :D

It's nice because it is reactionless unlike the ratchet. Also unlike the ratchet you can't manually turn anything with it so that's where the limits come in :dunno:

Also don't expect it to impact loosen much it is only something like 60ftlbs.

Compared to the M18 "driver" the torque specs are very close so I went M12 because of price though either are much less expensive than the M18 RA wrench

It's there when I need it :pimpflash
 

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Thanks for all the info and experience guys. I’m currently on the M12 platform and looking to expand into the M18 to replace my older Dewalt stuff. I do have one combo charger than came with my pex expander, but I’ll likely look to grab a few different batteries and chargers.

I figure either the circ saw or impact wrench will be my first purchase and at least one of them will be a kit. At least know I have the knowledge and understanding to make an informed decision.

I have the little M12 circular saw, with the 5 3/8 blade. It needs to use an XC battery, but has been able to do everything I've wanted it to since I bought it. It will cut through a 2X in one pass. My heavy 7 1/4 corded Craftsman has remained on its shelf, the only other circular saw I have.
 

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I also have the M12 and I can agree with KC it's a can be a fairly limited use tool.

And I did purchase mine for tight access screw driving application like under cabinets and it will easily impact drive a long screw. Though the very last time remember using it was to speed up assembling my new HF tool cart :D

It's nice because it is reactionless unlike the ratchet. Also unlike the ratchet you can't manually turn anything with it so that's where the limits come in :dunno:

Also don't expect it to impact loosen much it is only something like 60ftlbs.

Compared to the M18 "driver" the torque specs are very close so I went M12 because of price though either are much less expensive than the M18 RA wrench

It's there when I need it :pimpflash

Yea thats why i went with the m12..
A tool Milwaukee really needs to redevelop is the m18 version, esp in the 3/8 anvil model..

IR has one that just kills the m18.. there’s no excuse for that. :lol_hitti
 

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Tried a Milwaukee impact driver at home depot. It has lots of power but one thing I didn't like is that the bit slides in and out of the collet about 1/8 of an inch. I tried different bits in all the other milwaukee impact drivers they had on display, all have the same play. The makitas are the same.

My old ridgid impact driver that I still use has a spring loaded collet that keeps the bit snug, the bit doesn't slide in and out and stays firm. It also has 2 balls inside to keep the bit in place, where the milwaukees and makitas have one ball.

Is the bit supposed to have in and out play in the milwaukees? Or am I missing something?
 

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Tried a Milwaukee impact driver at home depot. It has lots of power but one thing I didn't like is that the bit slides in and out of the collet about 1/8 of an inch. I tried different bits in all the other milwaukee impact drivers they had on display, all have the same play. The makitas are the same.

My old ridgid impact driver that I still use has a spring loaded collet that keeps the bit snug, the bit doesn't slide in and out and stays firm. It also has 2 balls inside to keep the bit in place, where the milwaukees and makitas have one ball.

Is the bit supposed to have in and out play in the milwaukees? Or am I missing something?

Ya its normal. I have 5 different Milwaukee impact drivers and its the same on all of them.

Nothing to worry about :D
 

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Just got my die grinder back from Milwaukee that I sent it for warranty service with a stuck collet. Interestingly they replaced the rotor assembly in addition to the collet and nut. I only used the tool one time.

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Depends on your needs. I use the M18 lights - towers, floodys.

But for hand use, I prefer -handheld flashlights- - 18650/21700. One handheld goes from 30lumens to 1600'ish lumens , others goes from 100 lumens to 3200 lumens, and a beastly flashlight goes from .

For -spotlight- use, I tend to think of handheld 18650/21700 single cells
 

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So as someone who isn't invested in M18 (yet) and is looking for a light to grab to walk down to the back of the yard at night, it's good?

Sure.. i mean, its a big rugged flashlight really.. if you have flat bottom XC packs i think it’ll stand on the battery base. As long as you don’t care that you cant really sit it down, and aim the head (cause it doesn’t articulate like some others do), and you don’t mind thats it’s NOT small like a flashlight, then yea. I mean its a nice version of what it is (if that makes sense).. think it has a mode button too high/low.. maybe hold for strobe.. the little wrist lanyard is nice too.

It’s certainly bright enough. It’s made very well.. it definitely wont double as a club like some maglites will. Lol

Just jump on YouTube and watch a few vids. I’m sure there’s dozens on there. But if the quality is the question - yes - its absolutely made and feels very nice. Trigger is nice too. If you have an m12 drill or impact driver, its basically the same handle
 
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Sure.. i mean, its a big rugged flashlight really.. if you have flat bottom XC packs i think it’ll stand on the battery base. As long as you don’t care that you cant really sit it down, and aim the head (cause it doesn’t articulate like some others do), and you don’t mind thats it’s NOT small like a flashlight, then yea. I mean its a nice version of what it is (if that makes sense).. think it has a mode button too high/low.. maybe hold for strobe.. the little wrist lanyard is nice too.

It’s certainly bright enough. It’s made very well.. it definitely wont double as a club like some maglites will. Lol

Just jump on YouTube and watch a few vids. I’m sure there’s dozens on there. But if the quality is the question - yes - its absolutely made and feels very nice. Trigger is nice too. If you have an m12 drill or impact driver, its basically the same handle

:beer: Thanks!
 

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So as someone who isn't invested in M18 (yet) and is looking for a light to grab to walk down to the back of the yard at night, it's good?

For your purpose, you certain you don't want a floody light? I find spot/search lights of little use when taking the dog out to the yard for his nightly constitutional, and even less useful as work lights. Of course you can turn any spot/search light into a floody light with a little DC Fix Window Film on the lens.
 

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I’m listening to a M18 powered Bluetooth Bose bookshelf speaker.. lol

I hooked up that $18 Bluetooth/100 watt amp kit, to a 3D printed m18 power source, (both from amazon) and just plugged in an old Bose speaker i had laying around..

The first speaker i hooked up was an old JBL - and i was like damn this amp sounds unbelievably horrible.. figured out how to take the speaker grill off and found all the foam around the speaker cone completely gone.. (from sitting so long)

Swapped over to a Bose and its not that bad.. pretty good actually. And im only using 1 channel.
I think it might sound better then the big m18 Bluetooth radio/charger ... (ill have to compare) but I’m pretty sure it does. $37 for the stuff on amazon..
Wonder if anyone has tried to swap some real speakers into that thing.

So yea, if you have a couple old speakers layin around, you can turn em into Bluetooth speakers - even power them with a m18 battery if you have no outlets available.
 
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