The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[BeachBoy]

Just bought the M12 caulking gun, the small Bluetooth speaker and a heated jacket.

Starting to have a lot of red... Only one battery tool is not Milwaukee it's my framing nailer as they don't make one.

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[kctyphoon]

Lux and lumen are both measures of brightness.

You may be thinking of CRI, Color Rendering Index.

I don't know the specs, but the Milwaukee LED lights seem to do quite well- colors appear natural and there is no harsh blue tint. They aren't good for video lights though.

If you buy LED bulbs, you want to see "full spectrum" on the package.

if you watch some of the demo videos when the first floodlight came out, the reps mention that you cant judge light output purely on the lumen rating, and that the "lux" has alot to do with the actual light output.. ive noticed the lux rating on high end flashilights, so i can only imagine that one has a direct effect on the other.

 

[rednotch]

Picked these up last night to sell. My guy forgot to bring the light he has for me. Should be picking it up today. $130 for the tripod stand M18 LED light isn't half bad.

My 3/8" M12 FUEL impact kit and free 1/4" ratchet also came in earlier this week!

I also started filling the backpack I got two weeks ago!

Almost forgot, I also picked up a hole hawg over the weekend.

Damn, If you need to move some still pm me a price on the 2897-22 and the 2763-20. Planning on picking them up from HD anyway.

 

[jetdawg]

Milwaukee is currently running a special for vendors on those kits so you can undoubtedly get a good deal on them. I even got twin 5.0 packs for dirt.

 

[Ign]

They made the hex light to fit a ? pc of 1/2" conduit ? so yeah could be adapted to a tripod. After all, what's it on in the last pic?
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2361-20

 

[rice rocket]

if you watch some of the demo videos when the first floodlight came out, the reps mention that you cant judge light output purely on the lumen rating, and that the "lux" has alot to do with the actual light output.. ive noticed the lux rating on high end flashilights, so i can only imagine that one has a direct effect on the other.

Lux is intensity, lumens is total output. The rest is marketing.

 

[Wanna Ride]

That's the exact route I want to go, and you posted some box pics in another thread, but I can't get anyone at two different Sears stores to find that tripod. I haven't given up yet though.

my $50 investment.. $29 s/o light, and $19 craftsman tripod.. instead of the Milwaukee light for home i think its a better buy.. if you really wanted, you can buy a jump pack with a 110 power outlet to run it, and still be about $100 under the price of the Milwaukee at retail.. i expect that tripod light will drop in price quickly.. its a little insane for most people..

 

[kctyphoon]

That's the exact route I want to go, and you posted some box pics in another thread, but I can't get anyone at two different Sears stores to find that tripod. I haven't given up yet though.

Yea a lot of people have said it's impossible to find... I just noticed it on the shelf by some of the other worklights, and I can't find the sku anywhere online either. Had no idea it was such a unicorn.

I have another s/o light mounted to another tripod.. Basically any one will work, just have to drill mounting holes for the head.

 

[kctyphoon]

Lumens vs lux - (copied from the web)

We use lumens to compare the total amount of light output from a light emitter. However, lumens isn't the be-all and end-all. In fact, lumens will only tell you one part of the picture because when it comes to producing a great beam pattern, it doesn't give you enough information to tell you how the light output is used. A comparable analogy of lumens is an automobile's total brake horsepower (BHP).


We use lux to measure the amount of light output in a given area, where one lux is equal to one lumen per square meter. Lux is a great measurement for determining what we see as the brightness of a beam. If the light output is concentrated over a smaller area, we see this as very bright. If the light output is spread over a larger area, we see this as very weak. We normally use mirrors, reflectors, and optics to control the path of light and create the desired beam pattern. Lux also determines the magnitude of light intensity travelling over distances. A light that is configured for high lux output will travel farther but will have a smaller footprint of light (e.g. lighthouse spotlight), and a low lux level will be configured to travel shorter distances but have a larger footprint (e.g. decorative down lighting or ambient lighting).

 

[DaButcher]

my $50 investment.. $29 s/o light,

All the s/o 2000 lumen lights I find or about fifty bucks, where you find yours for twenty nine?

 

[kctyphoon]

All the s/o 2000 lumen lights I find or about fifty bucks, where you find yours for twenty nine?

Costco.. Some people have said they have seem them at $19, but I haven't yet.. Going to Costco tomorrow so I'll look again..

They started out at $39, and were a steal even at that price.

 

[Wanna Ride]

Costco.. Some people have said they have seem them at $19, but I haven't yet.. Going to Costco tomorrow so I'll look again..

They started out at $39, and were a steal even at that price.

Bought another one last week for $29 at our local Costco. Damn good lights too.

I'm going to mount two of them on a single tripod. If I can ever find the one I want...

 

[kctyphoon]

Bought another one last week for $29 at our local Costco. Damn good lights too.

I'm going to mount two of them on a single tripod. If I can ever find the one I want...

I don't have a picture of it, but I have 2 of the 1600 lumen models mounted to an old craftsman single tripod that had a dual head.. One option is to just **** it up and buy a dual head halogen light, maybe a used one on Craigslist or eBay and just toss the old halogen heads..

The stand I use for my 2 1600 models have a detachable floor stand that also mounts to a tripod.. It was an old craftsman that formerly housed 2 250 watt heads.

$35 free shipping on eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221962260672

$29 with no lights - http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=381488063892

 

[Wanna Ride]

I don't have a picture of it, but I have 2 of the 1600 lumen models mounted to an old craftsman single tripod that had a dual head.. One option is to just **** it up and buy a dual head halogen light, maybe a used one on Craigslist or eBay and just toss the old halogen heads..

The stand I use for my 2 1600 models have a detachable floor stand that also mounts to a tripod.. It was an old craftsman that formerly housed 2 250 watt heads.

$35 free shipping on eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221962260672

$29 with no lights - http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=381488063892

Yeah, I've already resorted to checking craigslist locally, and I started to skimming through eBay. Just need to say screw it and order one. I liked the Craftsman idea because... well, it's red... and new. I hate grunding looking old ****. Well, at least sometimes, I suppose.

 

[kctyphoon]

The first m18 flood light has an option to hang it on a piece of 1/2" emt. It works, not great though cause it doesn't fit snug on the emt pipe so it will just swing and find the lowest point unless you wrap some electrical tape around the pipe to snug up the fit. There's also a way to hang it from a screw, and even a piece of wire.. I imagine it's great IF your working in a place that you can use one of those things.. It's good for under the car, or doing brakes cause you can just lay in on the ground without it rolling around. The light output is pretty amazing for its size.

 

[killxswitch]

Just won a 2731-21 kit for $250 shipped on eBay. 7 1/4 saw, 5ah battery, charger, soft case. New still sealed in the box. Awesome. I like left side blade more but the deal was too good. Wish it had a hard case though. Anyone know if this case will fit it? http://www.toolbarn.com/milwaukee-48-55-9166.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAkb-zBRC2upezwuyguQ4SJADZG08v4FNex2AgDs3KQlYm5Zkq8kGwnJPM-UF0h9HF8EaMDxoCCRjw_wcB&ad=54712193894

 

[Ign]

The last pic it's on a piece of conduit.

Yes, thank you Hotels.com guy, but the point is what is the conduit on. Just a single piece of conduit set vertically on a floor with a light hung eccentric at the top? Unless you've got some Mayan ways to alter gravity that conduit has something down lower, perhaps a generic tripod????

 

[kctyphoon]

Yes, thank you Hotels.com guy, but the point is what is the conduit on. Just a single piece of conduit set vertically on a floor with a light hung eccentric at the top? Unless you've got some Mayan ways to alter gravity that conduit has something down lower, perhaps a generic tripod????

I think in some of the demos they showed the conduit going through a wooden cable spool as a stand. I agree with your point. The lack of a stand makes it a pain to use sometimes unless you can sit it on top of something or hang it.. I bought a piece of emt to hammer into my grass, but that's about as good as it gets.. You could use a regular tripod, and run a machine screw through the top, and hang the light off that..

Edit - just FYI. The hole in the light made for EMT doesn't NOT fit 1/2" pvc. That was an early thought - that I'd just make a quick stand with pvc but the plastic is too thick..

Honestly, I can't see that new tripod light stand staying at that $250 price for very long.. I think $175 is more realistic and would persuade more buyers. Can't see that selling very well at its current price - although a comparable Pelican model is like $800. (Just in case you're wondering who they stole the idea from)

Dewalt is suppose to be coming out with some new cordless lighting. I was part of their online feedback for new items. I wasn't overly impressed with some thing they were talking about, but hopefully they cook up something nice for those guys.

 

[kctyphoon]

Anyone else buy the new Milwaukee wire crimper yet? I have them, not bad IMO.. I'm about to order the new oil fliter wrench too, even though I JUST bought the Channellock model a few weeks ago.

They have new Iron workers, Fencing, Crimping, Filter, and End nipping pliers on the HD site now.

 

[Wanna Ride]

Anyone else buy the new Milwaukee wire crimper yet? I have them, not bad IMO.. I'm about to order the new oil fliter wrench too, even though I JUST bought the Channellock model a few weeks ago.

They have new Iron workers, Fencing, Crimping, Filter, and End nipping pliers on the HD site now.

What the...? I'm going to check these out, right now.

 

[kctyphoon]

Wow okay bud. Little hostile?

I think he meant -

 

[kctyphoon]

What would be cool, is if they came out with a mechanic's tool set with those grips on the ratchets. Even a set of combo wrenches with those grips on the middle..

 

[kctyphoon]

Coming soon?

These were shown a while ago - should be out soon I think, but I think the world could get by without more adjustables..

And some more things that should be out soon -

http://www.protoolreviews.com/news/new-milwaukee-hand-tools-2015-2016/16737/

 

[jrp458]

Really want to see Milwaukee get into the mechanics hand tools game more like Dewalt has.

 

[rice rocket]

Really? Why?

They're all entry level tools that really don't stand for anything other than they're yellow, the same is the case with Milwaukee hand tools. If you're willing to spend the money on above average Milwaukee power tools, surely you would want to pick up Klein, Channellock, Knipex, or any other mfg that ACTUALLY makes hand tools instead of some **** they cooked up in the marketing department, right?

 

[Fixed]

Really? Why?

They're all entry level tools that really don't stand for anything other than they're yellow, the same is the case with Milwaukee hand tools. If you're willing to spend the money on above average Milwaukee power tools, surely you would want to pick up Klein, Channellock, Knipex, or any other mfg that ACTUALLY makes hand tools instead of some **** they cooked up in the marketing department, right?

I totally agree with that. I'm not terribly impressed at the way the power tool companies have been encroaching on the hand tool market. The products, in my opinion, rely more on their marketing than any actual quality.

Channellock has been making great tools in NA since my great-grandfather was in diapers, and generations of electricians have been using Klein. It's going to take more than a few photo-shoots and a spiel from their sales rep to get me to switch to Milwaukee hand tools. Which are also oddly expensive, at least in Canada, since what I've seen so far is all made in China.

 

[jrp458]

Really? Why?

They're all entry level tools that really don't stand for anything other than they're yellow, the same is the case with Milwaukee hand tools. If you're willing to spend the money on above average Milwaukee power tools, surely you would want to pick up Klein, Channellock, Knipex, or any other mfg that ACTUALLY makes hand tools instead of some **** they cooked up in the marketing department, right?

I understand what you're saying, but I haven't had any issues with the Milwaukee hand tools that I own.

 

[kctyphoon]

Really? Why?

They're all entry level tools that really don't stand for anything other than they're yellow, the same is the case with Milwaukee hand tools. If you're willing to spend the money on above average Milwaukee power tools, surely you would want to pick up Klein, Channellock, Knipex, or any other mfg that ACTUALLY makes hand tools instead of some **** they cooked up in the marketing department, right?

The Dewalt hand tools on the peg board aren't good at all.. The Milwaukee stuff is leaps and bounds above the regular pliers and cutters Dewalt offers. The Dewalt mechanic's tools are another story all together.. For the money, when on sale, you will not find something as nice. The wrenches are a great buy for the money, ratchets and sockets sets too.

There's really nothing special at all about anything Channellock makes. I have some of the newer items. The cutters ****. The edges do not last, and aside from being US made, they don't offer what people would like to believe they do. They are nowhere near Knipex (as much as some people would like to believe that) With regards to this, some of the Milwaukee stuff is better. The grips are a lot nicer for home use, the jaws are harder on the cutters too from what I've seen so far.

For home, I like Milwaukee's grips, and like knowing they don't peel off, crack, and cut like the channellock or klien models. I like that they match, and I've never had to go get another tool cause my Milwuakee pliers "couldn't do what the Kliens or Channellock could" performance wise, there is no noticeable difference for most people's purposes - and for me the new grips are a nice thing. I do wish Milwaukee made the finish on the tools a little nicer, but that doesn't effect how they work.. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I've never had an issue with the newer Milwaukee stuff.. I like them.

The first gen stuff - fine, you win when it comes to the old lineman pliers and diagonals.. The newer ones - not really..

 

[Ign]

I understand what you're saying, but I haven't had any issues with the Milwaukee hand tools that I own.

I agree with both sides. Most of the Milwaukee hand tools I have I really like. That said, I think they're going to pull a Hitler and spread themselves too thin. Rather than trying to take over the world, their greatest chance of success is taking over the power tool market.

I'd like to see these resources & this R&D go into tools we want. I know plenty of guys want a cordless nail gun and I still want a string trimmer and chainsaw. I understand power tools are a lot more investment, but it's still a market Milwaukee knows (ie they're good with battery technology) and is recognized.

I'd argue if they pooled all the efforts they've put into re-designing 2nd gen Fuel (which really wasn't necessary) and several of these new pliers, they could have made a kick-*** nailer and marketed it well enough to have already sold [insert whatever number would be very good here] units.

Plus there's the consideration that with a cordless tool the consumer is buying into your system, but a pair of pliers is a pair of pliers. Gillette sent me a razor when I was 18 and I've been buying their blades ever since. Smart.

 

[kctyphoon]

Wouldn't be surprised if they are still pursuing that, and just waited for dewalt to release theirs. This way dewalt takes the risk of testing the market, and Milwaukee gets to improve on the design if it's a success.. Kinda hard to make something better than the other guys, if you don't know what the other guys cooked up yet..

 

[Frontierajl]

What does anyone think the possibility is of designing a 'battery pack' that's actually an inverter so you could plug your tools in to an extension cord if needed. I was mainly thinking this would be cool for the light but if you make it for one you might as well make it work for all of them. This seems like it would change the game entirely. I can't imagine the technology isn't available to make this happen. Am I wrong? Stupid idea?


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[kctyphoon]

What does anyone think the possibility is of designing a 'battery pack' that's actually an inverter so you could plug your tools in to an extension cord if needed. I was mainly thinking this would be cool for the light but if you make it for one you might as well make it work for all of them. This seems like it would change the game entirely. I can't imagine the technology isn't available to make this happen. Am I wrong? Stupid idea?


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I've been saying that for years.. But it would basically kill everyones corded tool market if they sold it..

The m18 fan and the new $149 light are dual powered, you'd would just need to package the inverter in a battery pack shell, and leave a tail hanging out the back for an extension cord - like an electric chainsaw.. The Ryobi led flood light is dual powered too.. Probably cheaper to rip that apart as a donor, but don't know if those things would keep up with heavy power demands of a drill or saw..

 

[Frontierajl]

I've been saying that for years.. But it would basically kill everyones corded tool market if they sold it..

Whoever does it first would dominate the market though. Best of both worlds in one package. Especially with the new brushless stuff. Don't kill my dreams! Lol


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[Frontierajl]

And most people seem to be going cordless more and more nowadays too. Not everyone of course. Just more than before.


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[mrvm]

The m18 fan and the new $149 light are dual powered, you'd would just need to package the inverter in a battery pack shell, and leave a tail hanging out the back for an extension cord - like an electric chainsaw.. The Ryobi led flood light is dual powered too.. Probably cheaper to rip that apart as a donor..

KC, that DIY idea sounds much easier than modifying a brand A battery onto a brand B power tool. For $69 the Ryobi led has the inverter to provide corded power to a battery pack shell.......hmmmm

UPDATE: the Ryobi led light is only $45.37 if purchased with the Dewalt kit......meaning why are we waiting for big Milwaukee/Dewalt to make the battery inverters and charge big $$$
for your idea? I got two dead 18V Makita batteries that could be gutted/recycled and inverter ready if it fits.

 

[Frontierajl]

Man, I'm getting pretty tempted to try something stupid. Ugh. Lol


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[jetdawg]

Really? Why?

They're all entry level tools that really don't stand for anything other than they're yellow, the same is the case with Milwaukee hand tools. If you're willing to spend the money on above average Milwaukee power tools, surely you would want to pick up Klein, Channellock, Knipex, or any other mfg that ACTUALLY makes hand tools instead of some **** they cooked up in the marketing department, right?

Because guys will buy anything branded milfukee. The fanboyism is quite strong here.

 

[wait4me]

I think the dual power fan is the cheapest dual power item in the ryobi one+ lineup.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Hybrid-Portable-Fan-Tool-Only-P3320/205022215

If you're looking for donor electronics.

 

[kctyphoon]

I think the dual power fan is the cheapest dual power item in the ryobi one+ lineup.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Hybrid-Portable-Fan-Tool-Only-P3320/205022215

If you're looking for donor electronics.

Save your money.. It won't work.. There's one being sold for Makita powered Greenlee power tools - its about $300...

The amperage from the other things mentioned is way too low for the tools

 

[kctyphoon]

Just bought the Milwaukee laser temp gun 2266-20 for $35 w/free shipping.. That's the same price as the HF model .. Doesn't take M12 batteries though?????

http://www.tools-plus.com/milwaukee...m=MLW2266-20&gclid=COPupOKQ5skCFcwWHwodoCwPtw