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chrisexv6

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Anyone with the gen 2 hammer drill - do you see any wobble in the chuck? Just bought the bare tool and Im seeing some wobble. I know my gen 1 didnt do it, but it took a couple to find one that were good.

Will the gen 1 chuck fit the gen 2 drill? If not, are there any other alternatives out there?

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Is the m12 3/8" impact worth having if I already have the m18 fuel gen 2 3/8"?? Is it that much smaller??


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It's thinner and shorter. But the head is longer. All depends on how the space your trying to fit in to is shaped. I have both and like/use them both.


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Anyone with the gen 2 hammer drill - do you see any wobble in the chuck? Just bought the bare tool and Im seeing some wobble. I know my gen 1 didnt do it, but it took a couple to find one that were good.

Will the gen 1 chuck fit the gen 2 drill? If not, are there any other alternatives out there?

Thanks.

-Chris


Does the chuck look wobbly or is that with a true bit in it and the bit's wobbly? Most of the Gen 2 hammer drills I have and sold had a wobbly looking chuck but the bit spun straight. I had one person say theirs wasn't true and try to get a partial refund but when I told him he could return it he never messaged me again, thinking he just wanted easy money.


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Have you looked on home depots website? They have a deal where you buy the 3/8" impact kit for 200 and get the ratchet for free. They have one for the 1/4" ratchet and one for the 3/8" ratchet.


Thanks, I have and I already have a dewalt cordless impact so I am not really needing one. If I was I would definitely jump on this.


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Thanks, I have and I already have a dewalt cordless impact so I am not really needing one. If I was I would definitely jump on this.


Ryan


Could always sell the bare impact for $100 and end up with a ratchet and two 2.0 batteries with a charger for the price of just the ratchet.


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It's thinner and shorter. But the head is longer. All depends on how the space your trying to fit in to is shaped. I have both and like/use them both.


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I have both. I seem to always go for the M12 stuff unless I'm expecting to need the power from the M18 tool. My M12 fuel tools are my favorite power tools right now. Power approaching NiCad 18V tools without much weight.

I use the M12 3/8 a lot pulling things off the top of an engine.
 

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I have both. I seem to always go for the M12 stuff unless I'm expecting to need the power from the M18 tool. My M12 fuel tools are my favorite power tools right now. Power approaching NiCad 18V tools without much weight.



I use the M12 3/8 a lot pulling things off the top of an engine.


I agree with this. I use and like my M12 stuff more than my M18 stuff. I don't know if it's just the size or what but I really enjoy using them.


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Debating if I should pull the trigger on the m12 3/8" impact and ratchet combo from Home Depot but already owning the gen 2 fuel 3/8" and 1/4" impacts I figure it'll just collect dust in the tool cabinet


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Anyone with the gen 2 hammer drill - do you see any wobble in the chuck? Just bought the bare tool and Im seeing some wobble. I know my gen 1 didnt do it, but it took a couple to find one that were good.

Will the gen 1 chuck fit the gen 2 drill? If not, are there any other alternatives out there?

Thanks.

-Chris
Most the reviews online for the 2704 hammer drill I've read mention chuck wobble. I really wanted to get a gen 2 but this seems to be a very common problem with them.

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Does the chuck look wobbly or is that with a true bit in it and the bit's wobbly? Most of the Gen 2 hammer drills I have and sold had a wobbly looking chuck but the bit spun straight. I had one person say theirs wasn't true and try to get a partial refund but when I told him he could return it he never messaged me again, thinking he just wanted easy money.


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Looked at it again (no bit in it) and it looks like it might just be the sleeve itself. To check if the chuck itself is wobbly, do I just drill a hole and micrometer it?

Most the reviews online for the 2704 hammer drill I've read mention chuck wobble. I really wanted to get a gen 2 but this seems to be a very common problem with them.

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I noticed there are a lot of Amazon reviews like this, but most other places that sell the drill didnt have many complaints. The complaints existed for the previous version of this drill too and it looks like they might be using the same chuck (although ToolGuyd says it might be a 9/16" spindle now). I do have a 2604 and it doesnt look like it wobbles like the new one does. I will try a test hole to see what I get in reality, though Im not sure how I can accurately tell if its good or not.
 

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Put a drill bit in it and pull the trigger. See if the drill bit wobbles. Ideally, you'd clamp down the drill and measure the runout.

Tried that, definitely looks like its wobbling at least a little at the end of the bit.

Tried the same with my 2604 and there is a little wobble but much less

Now not sure what to do with the 2704....just bought it at HD last week so I suppose I could ask for an exchange and see if I can find a better one.

Or do I try to see if the chuck is the issue, then just get a better chuck (there is a Rohm that should fit)
 

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Tried that, definitely looks like its wobbling at least a little at the end of the bit.



Tried the same with my 2604 and there is a little wobble but much less



Now not sure what to do with the 2704....just bought it at HD last week so I suppose I could ask for an exchange and see if I can find a better one.



Or do I try to see if the chuck is the issue, then just get a better chuck (there is a Rohm that should fit)


Exchange it and see what you get. Make sure to try multiple bits to make sure it's not the bit.


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Anyone have issues with the tripod light in the cold weather? Used mine two nights in a row on emergency calls at work, and the mast does not like to fully collapse when it's been out in the cold.. Feels like there's some air trapped inside, and I have to wait for the fixture to warm up so I can get the last 2 inches of the mast down..

Otherwise, the thing is friggin amazing.. Makes a huge difference for someone like me at work.
 
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Some new items - got the latest Milwaukee pliers except the iron workers version. For my purpose I see no need to have those and the lineman pliers.. Also replacing all my cheap Kobalt pliers in my rolling "driveway" box with Channellock stuff.. I guess I just needed something else to buy..
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Exchange it and see what you get. Make sure to try multiple bits to make sure it's not the bit.


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Will give that a shot and report back. Hopefully easy to do, since I got it discounted with the 150 off promo

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Anyone have issues with the tripod light in the cold weather? Used mine two nights in a row on emergency calls at work, and the mast does not like to fully collapse when it's been out in the cold.. Feels like there's some air trapped inside, and I have to wait for the fixture to warm up so I can get the last 2 inches of the mast down..

Otherwise, the thing is friggin amazing.. Makes a huge difference for someone like me at work.

Any chance the metal tubes are shrinking due to cold, causing a very tight fit?
 

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I guess anything is possible.. Feels like trying to push down a pneumatic piston.. Both stages were a little unwilling to slide freely..

going from a warm environment to the cold could be causing condensation in the tubes which would cause what you are saying
 
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Is the m12 3/8" impact worth having if I already have the m18 fuel gen 2 3/8"?? Is it that much smaller??


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I have both. And I would say yes.

I 100% agree. Hardly ever do I pull out the M18 one. My M12 Fuel does damn everything I would ever ask a 3/8" ratchet or breaker bar to do.

Come to think of it, that M18 just sits in drawer. Can't remember the last time I used it. Probably on my Dodge 3500 sway bars, steering upgrade, and new shocks. A lot of 18mm IIRC, torqued way down.
 

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Any chance the metal tubes are shrinking due to cold, causing a very tight fit?
No. The change due to temp would be out near 6 decimal places, nothing you could even notice, and they would change pretty similarly. As was said earlier, possibly condensation causing it to lock up.
 

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All I know is the light is amazing otherwise... Used it AGAIN tonight on another nightmare pole that took me almost 6 hours to get in the ground, and having that light is a real game changer for me.. I swear I must work for the only friggin utility company that buys trucks that's have ZERO work lights on them.. How that's even permitted is beyond me - but this light has proved its worth 3 times already since Friday. I did have the same issue again tonight with the mast not wanting to fully collapse...
 

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I ended up adding the 2704 to the lineup. Runout measured with a Mitutoyo dial test indicator, strapped down, is around 0.015. There is some visual wobble on longer bits. I'm unsure if I'm going to swap it out or just keep it. It's a hand drill after all not a milling machine.
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I ended up adding the 2704 to the lineup. Runout measured with a Mitutoyo dial test indicator, strapped down, is around 0.015. There is some visual wobble on longer bits. I'm unsure if I'm going to swap it out or just keep it. It's a hand drill after all not a milling machine.
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I never measured mine (dont have a good setup to do so) but my 2704 wobbles a little as well. Im going to HD today to see if they have a better one but there are only 2 left in stock so Im not hopeful.

I might just settle for the "best of the worst" and be done with it. If it bothers me that much later on, Ill try to upgrade the chuck to a Rohm.
 

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FYI - I tried out the only other 2704-20 my store had and the chuck wobble was worse than my original. I didn't go as far as have them open a combo kit (they have a bunch of those). Thinking the chances are that the chuck is the issue, unless somehow I ended up with 2 drills that had bad spindles.
 

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Are you looking at the knurling of the chuck or a fresh new bit in the chuck wobbling?

Mine has the grip pattern makes it look like it is wobbling but I have zero issues drilling holes in wood metal or plastic. The bit stays center on whatever mark I have made.
 

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Are you looking at the knurling of the chuck or a fresh new bit in the chuck wobbling?

Mine has the grip pattern makes it look like it is wobbling but I have zero issues drilling holes in wood metal or plastic. The bit stays center on whatever mark I have made.
Both. The best I can anyway.

The sleeve definitely wobbles but it looks like the end of a bit (drill rod, actually) wobbles in the same "pattern" with the chuck sleeve. It's not horrible even on a 5" long rod, it's just that it's there so I wasn't sure if I should settle for it.

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Both. The best I can anyway.

The sleeve definitely wobbles but it looks like the end of a bit (drill rod, actually) wobbles in the same "pattern" with the chuck sleeve. It's not horrible even on a 5" long rod, it's just that it's there so I wasn't sure if I should settle for it.

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My rule of thumb is that if you are in search for drilling with precision you are wanting a drill press.

Just drilling hole be it in wood metal or plastic, cordless.
 

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My rule of thumb is that if you are in search for drilling with precision you are wanting a drill press.

Just drilling hole be it in wood metal or plastic, cordless.

Thats what I was thinking myself.....Im not doing any precision work so I really just need the chuck to HOLD the drill bit....a bit of wobble probably wont ever affect me, and if it does Ill just warranty it.
 

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Some new items - got the latest Milwaukee pliers except the iron workers version. For my purpose I see no need to have those and the lineman pliers.. Also replacing all my cheap Kobalt pliers in my rolling "driveway" box with Channellock stuff.. I guess I just needed something else to buy..
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Are those available at HD in store already?
 

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Cant decide between the 3/8 or 1/2 m18 fuel impact. They have essentually the same torque. Whose got some insight?
Same torque?

The 1/2" 2763 impact has 700lb/ft fastening and 1100 breaking

The 3/8 2754 impact wrench has 210lb/ft

I have both and use the 3/8 primarily for auto work. Use the 1/2 on lugs, axles.

Really depends on what you're using it for.

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Cant decide between the 3/8 or 1/2 m18 fuel impact. They have essentually the same torque. Whose got some insight?

Might depend on what size impact sockets you own or want to invest in. The 3/8 impact sockets fits the bolts I encounter avoiding the need for an adapter. Anything that needs 1/2 impact sockets will be covered by my 2763
 
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