a52-830
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just to make sure i am not missing it, is there a cordless 3" cut off tool?
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Ign
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I wish!
Hammer1963
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The local Home Depot never seems to have the deals that some of you all find. I would love to find that right angle impact for $50.00. Maybe I need to travel to all the stores in my region and check those out.
Hammer1963
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Common theme with Milwaukee and HD. Only certain milwaukee items go clearance across the country. Like those Milwaukee tops, they are across the country.
M18 cutout I've seen only in about 3 HD In my region. The rest either don't carry them or they are full price.
FigureItOut
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I finally picked up the 3/8" ratchet I've been wanting, putting me now into three battery systems, at least I have the dual voltage chargers. This may be the only M12 I ever want or need, but I think I'm really gonna like it. I have a trailer hitch install tomorrow where the hitch has to go up and down a couple times, so it'll be a good test.
I finally picked up the 3/8" ratchet I've been wanting, putting me now into three battery systems, at least I have the dual voltage chargers. This may be the only M12 I ever want or need, but I think I'm really gonna like it. I have a trailer hitch install tomorrow where the hitch has to go up and down a couple times, so it'll be a good test.
Let me know what you think, I am thinking about picking up the 3/8 M12 and ratchet m12 soon.
Ign
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Compare the speed to a regular impact driver when actually driving a screw. It's much faster somehow.
Hendricks433
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Just ordered my first cordless power tool set. Got the M12 fuel set with the free 1/4in ratchet. I do primarily DIY auto and motorcycle work.
Eventually will pick up the M18 3/8 compact impact or the M18 mid torque. Or both ��
Eventually will pick up the M18 3/8 compact impact or the M18 mid torque. Or both ��
pfmg
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I find I use the M12 3/8 ratchet more than I thought, it is handy.
I just put new cabinets in the garage. And the Milwaukee collection got some prime real estate. I even found a use for the dead space behind the cabinet doors.
I just put new cabinets in the garage. And the Milwaukee collection got some prime real estate. I even found a use for the dead space behind the cabinet doors.
FigureItOut
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Definitely my MVP of the day. It gets in where no other power tool will. I debated between the ratchet and an RA impact, and I'm glad I got the ratchet. My only gripe is that the selector switch is a bit tough with gloves on. Also, it's kind of hard to know how much torque you can put on it when just ratcheting. I'm sure I'll get braver with it but I felt like I needed to break things loose with a regular ratchet first.
I finally picked up the 3/8" ratchet I've been wanting, putting me now into three battery systems, at least I have the dual voltage chargers. This may be the only M12 I ever want or need, but I think I'm really gonna like it. I have a trailer hitch install tomorrow where the hitch has to go up and down a couple times, so it'll be a good test.
You'll want the 1/4" one next to go with it!
JettaGetUpandGo
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I have yet to run into a situation where the included 3/8" to 1/4" adapter makes the tool not fit where I need it to.
a52-830
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you missed the point. he didnt say "need", he said "want".
FigureItOut
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Included? I didn't get one, bought as a bare tool. Not that I don't have a few already.
kctyphoon
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Well, taxes filed last week.. hopefully in 2 weeks I'll be ordering that mid torque impact.. (just cause I want it).. if I get the motivation up to revive my truck when it warms up, that should come in handy..
Gonna look and see if anything new has been announced yet....
Hmm new pipe cutters now...
Gonna look and see if anything new has been announced yet....
Hmm new pipe cutters now...
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JettaGetUpandGo
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Oops. forgot I was on a tool forum.
Oh? Now that you mention it I think I bought the kit rather than the bare tool.
DFB
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Ya you have to wonder what the weak point on the cordless ratchet might be applying hands on manual breakaway force. The body is long comparing it to some 3/8" drive tools so you could probably have some xtra leverage. Is it going be in the ratchet mechanism were a most regular ratchets would probably give out or is the somewhere farther along the body?
I read in past some complaints about Milwaukee not warrantying broken ratchet components claiming abuse
This is a parts breakdown on the ratchet
http://documents.milwaukeetool.com/54-47-0231.pdf
I did experiment a little on a few vise mounted bolts tightened with a torque wrench up to 40 ft. lbs.
Just for grins old Craftsman bar and ratchet on the outside with new Tekton breaker bar and no name fine tooth Taiwan import in between
I read in past some complaints about Milwaukee not warrantying broken ratchet components claiming abuse
This is a parts breakdown on the ratchet
http://documents.milwaukeetool.com/54-47-0231.pdf
I did experiment a little on a few vise mounted bolts tightened with a torque wrench up to 40 ft. lbs.
Just for grins old Craftsman bar and ratchet on the outside with new Tekton breaker bar and no name fine tooth Taiwan import in between
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Ign
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It's the battery that makes it long. It's often tempting to pull at the battery for extra leverage but you can feel it move a little & I try to avoid that.
Are you guys saying that putting the ratchet on a bolt and pulling on it with your hand to break certain bolts loose like I do with pneumatic tools is bad for the electric ratchet?
Does it have a lock that doesn't let the head rotate with the trigger not press? or do you have to press the trigger wait until the motor locks up then pull harder to break the bolt loose and the motor will kick in again.
I was planning on getting this set
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2454-22-2457-20/205044520
Does the 3/8th M12 provide usable power around a car? I currently use the M18 brushless impact drive with attachment and it works great but the tool is too big and the attachment makes it too long but the M12 3/8 only puts out 116ftlbs and seems severely under powered even compared to the impact driver. I dunno if I will like it or if ti will suit my needs.
Does it have a lock that doesn't let the head rotate with the trigger not press? or do you have to press the trigger wait until the motor locks up then pull harder to break the bolt loose and the motor will kick in again.
I was planning on getting this set
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2454-22-2457-20/205044520
Does the 3/8th M12 provide usable power around a car? I currently use the M18 brushless impact drive with attachment and it works great but the tool is too big and the attachment makes it too long but the M12 3/8 only puts out 116ftlbs and seems severely under powered even compared to the impact driver. I dunno if I will like it or if ti will suit my needs.
Ign
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When you're not on the trigger the ratchet acts EXACTLY like a standard hand ratchet. No need to preload the motor.
We're just saying it's unknown how much leverage you can apply to the ratchet head before something breaks because 1) it is kinda long w the battery installed and 2) you can feel the plastic body flex and creak a bit, but they seem to be holding up for the most part. Plenty of professional techs on here who swear by the tool.
We're just saying it's unknown how much leverage you can apply to the ratchet head before something breaks because 1) it is kinda long w the battery installed and 2) you can feel the plastic body flex and creak a bit, but they seem to be holding up for the most part. Plenty of professional techs on here who swear by the tool.
cajunfirehawk
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Got an issue with my Milwaukee fuel hammer drill, used it in hammer mode yesterday, now the chuck is so tight I can't get the bit out, tried some wd40, gloves, etc, but nothing will budge it. I know I can use channel locks but don't want to mar up the plastic around the chuck collar on my nice new drill, any tips from the M hive?
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paulsomlo
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For under the hood and interior, yes. For some suspension, yes, but not all. I've been surprised at how many fasteners mine has been able to remove. When I first got it, I really didn't think I would keep it, but it's really pretty capable, given its weight. That, and the M12 ratchet have been worthwhile purchases. I got the 1/4" drive version of the ratchet, which pretty much matches the class of bolt that you'll want to use it on. I do tend to use it a fair amount, however, with a magnetic adapter from gpsocket to increase it to 3/8" drive.
DFB
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In my experience the 3/8 M12 Fuel should do what ever your asking from the 2753. Besides you are probably loosing some of that slightly higher torque rating (1800 inlbs) by coupling up the adapter between the socket and the tool anyhow.
The 2454 has never failed to loosen any lugut I've decided to put it on. Very impressive little impact wrench. And performs way better than a 1500 in. lb 2657 with socket adapter. Obviously your looking at free tool deal but if your already believing the 2454 is a severely underpowered tool then the M18 2754 may suit your needs better.
Socket length from the tool tip is about the same on the 2454 as it is the 2754
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Does home depot want the free tool back if I buy the kit and don't like the 3/8th impact?
I would just have to buy new M12 batteries for $79 and my M18 charger charges M12 batteries too
My issue with the 3/8 M18 is that the battery makes it much bigger, the M12 tiny handle and probably lighter weight is a plus for me.
I would just have to buy new M12 batteries for $79 and my M18 charger charges M12 batteries too
My issue with the 3/8 M18 is that the battery makes it much bigger, the M12 tiny handle and probably lighter weight is a plus for me.
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Voi
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Not sure which M18 brushless you have (1st or 2nd generation Fuel or the non-Fuel brushless) but you may not be gaining much.
One of the online tool reviews commented that the 2nd generation Fuel with an adapter (I think it was the Shockwave adapter) was around the same length or maybe even shorter than the 2nd generation M18 impact wrench.
And the M12 is even longer.
Quick look online.
M12 3/8" 2454 = 6.5"
M18 3/8" 2754 = 5.9"
M18 2753 driver = 5.25"
M18 2750 driver = 5 3/8" (this is the non-Fuel brushless).
If you have the original Fuel impact driver you'd have to look it up and compare. But as you can see even if the exposed part of the adapter was 1/2" to 5/8" either brushless driver above and M18 3/8" wrench would be nearly identical. The M12 you're considering would be even longer.
I have the same problem with my impact driver plus adapter plus socket not being compact enough much of the time. Not really a great solution without going to air.
I'd still want the M18 Fuel 3/8" compact only because it means no more fussing with or breaking adapters. And more torque.
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a52-830
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Does home depot want the free tool back if I buy the kit and don't like the 3/8th impact?
I would just have to buy new M12 batteries for $79 and my M18 charger charges M12 batteries too
My issue with the 3/8 M18 is that the battery makes it much bigger, the M12 tiny handle and probably lighter weight is a plus for me.
as i recall, the receipt apportions what you paid across the packages. you won't get back everything you paid.
and, if you want batteries, go to ebay. they are substantially cheaper, usually from people who are buying these kits with extra tools, and selling the parts that they dont need.
I have bought my M18 Fuel Lithium impact drive / hammer drill combo early last year. They don't have the bluetooth thing on them but they are both the brushless model that came with a 4.0 battery.
Are you saying the M12 3/8 with a socket right on the end is longer than the M18 drill with 1/4 hex adapter plus socket on that? The 1/4 inch hex to 3/8 socket adapter is at least a 1.5 to 2 inch long piece.
Are you saying the M12 3/8 with a socket right on the end is longer than the M18 drill with 1/4 hex adapter plus socket on that? The 1/4 inch hex to 3/8 socket adapter is at least a 1.5 to 2 inch long piece.
Voi
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Not the drill, the impact driver.
And yes, according to the reviewer the newest M18 Fuel impact driver with socket adapter was around the same size or maybe even slightly shorter than the newest M18 compact impact wrench, depending on adapter.
Since the M12 wrench is even longer it would make sense it was longer than the impact driver plus adapter.
There was no picture or measurement provided. It was an off the cuff comment made when describing how compact these newer impact drivers are.
I was surprised. Maybe somebody can post a photo comparison and confirm.
Obviously the brand and length of adapter would matter. My adapters are also around 2" long but from the chuck to the socket is only 5/8" or so once seated.
My only point is that if your driver has enough power but isn't compact enough in some cases just make sure that what you're getting is a significant improvement. As you noted in another reply the length of the driver or wrench isn't always the issue with them fitting or not.
DFB
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The M12 may be "longer" but the added length is more behind the handle. Depending on the application it may be more useful than an M18 because there is no battery to get in the way. Also the increased head angle helps keep the handle further away. It all depends on might what works best in the situation at hand being there is no one size fits all when it comes to these impact. If there was they only be making one instead of 6!
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Voi
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As I said in my earlier reply, the length of the wrench isn't the only issue determining whether it fits or not. I can't think of a situation where the battery was the issue but I can certainly see the angle of the M12 helping in some situations (note: I don't have one).
I'm shopping for a new impact driver and a new cordless tool system for that matter. Whenever I compare them in person I'm typically more worried about length ahead of the trigger than anything since my wrist seems to stick about behind the rear of the tool anyways when angling into a tight spot. So yeah, I agree -- it depends.
DFB
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RTR made a great video showing how when compensating with different extension bars and adapters it only decreases the usable power.
This is one my favs
Off the top of my head a really simple situation where the battery often gets in the way at least for me is doing the lug nuts on a deep dish rim like often found on a tractor (a lot of times one of my personal applications ) Even when using a deep well socket it often does not reach unless your adding in an extension piece. Or you constantly have to try to hold the tool so the battery won't hit the tire always changing position even holding the tool upside down so the battery is to center to have the clearance.
Now I'm not saying the M12 is substitute tool in this application (though it could be a possibility depending on the size of the equipment such as maybe a lawn tractor) but no matter how I hold the 2655B in the photos I cant reach the wheel bolt at least without using at least a minimum of a 2 to 2-1/2 in extension. Its either hitting the rim or the tire. And the 26xx series tool is overall longer yet than newest version
But mocking up a 1/2" 22mm deep socket over the anvil the design of the M12 tool allowed me to reach the bolt head leaving plenty of clearance and giving me no hassles. I don't have a 22m 3/8" deep impact but even if I did it would still reach easily
This is one my favs
Off the top of my head a really simple situation where the battery often gets in the way at least for me is doing the lug nuts on a deep dish rim like often found on a tractor (a lot of times one of my personal applications ) Even when using a deep well socket it often does not reach unless your adding in an extension piece. Or you constantly have to try to hold the tool so the battery won't hit the tire always changing position even holding the tool upside down so the battery is to center to have the clearance.
Now I'm not saying the M12 is substitute tool in this application (though it could be a possibility depending on the size of the equipment such as maybe a lawn tractor) but no matter how I hold the 2655B in the photos I cant reach the wheel bolt at least without using at least a minimum of a 2 to 2-1/2 in extension. Its either hitting the rim or the tire. And the 26xx series tool is overall longer yet than newest version
But mocking up a 1/2" 22mm deep socket over the anvil the design of the M12 tool allowed me to reach the bolt head leaving plenty of clearance and giving me no hassles. I don't have a 22m 3/8" deep impact but even if I did it would still reach easily
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Dennis Leigh Henry
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I used my new M18 Fuel brushless drill to drill holes in my maple top workbench for bench dogs, maybe 12 or 14 all the way thru, with a 3/4 forstner bit.. bit was too hot to hold but the drill was cool as cucumber.. and was still going strong when I stopped... Amazing!
2897-22 kit with the 2753-20 1/2 hammer drill..
2897-22 kit with the 2753-20 1/2 hammer drill..
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Bighead38
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Used my 2753 for the first time tonight with a socket and am super impressed. Got out of the bosses car and a little stick had punctured the sidewall. It's a 94 explorer with a super rusty under carriage. The rear wheels haven't been off in at least 3 years. The rim was actually rusted to the hub really bad. Anyway that little impact took off all 5 lug nuts with no problem at all. It didn't hammer for more than 2 or 3 seconds on each one.
DerekV
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The M12 may be "longer" but the added length is more behind the handle. Depending on the application it may be more useful than an M18 because there is no battery to get in the way. Also the increased head angle helps keep the handle further away. It all depends on might what works best in the situation at hand being there is no one size fits all when it comes to these impact. If there was they only be making one instead of 6!
I've always bashed the M12's for being longer, but I've never thought of it like that before. Good comparison.