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Ok thks for that linkup Hendricks433

As usual none of these tool reviews ever seem to publish torque numbers anymore. And last time I really ever remembering seeing any online was back for my 2655B and the 2655/54 models

Though most often the mode "torque numbers" were always found on the actual packaging box the tool came in. I have those numbers for all my Fuel impact wenches and drivers both 18v and 12v FUEL

Does Milwaukee still do this?

Now the Milwaukee operators manual gives these numbers for the two Mid Torque models


RPM Cat. No. .....................................................2861-20
Anvil Type ...................................1/2" Square-Ring Mode 1
No Load RPM .........................................0 - 510
Impacts per Minute .......................................420
Mode 2
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2100
Impacts per Minute .....................................2700
Mode 3
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2400
Impacts per Minute .....................................3000


Cat. No. .....................................................2860-20
Anvil Type .....................................1/2" Square-Pin Mode 1
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 1700
Impacts per Minute .....................................2300 Mode 2
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2100
Impacts per Minute .....................................2700 Mode 3
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2400
Impacts per Minute .....................................3000


510rpm is a bit slow (even the ring anvil compacts do 900 rpm I think) but is still 5x faster than the 100rpm mode 1 on the original High Torque.

Now THAT is really dang slow :lol_hitti

And people always complained about it :D

Edit: as pointed out in a following post the Mode 1 RPM of a 2763 is actually 425 RPM not 100rpm as I had originally written but still less than the mid torque mode 1

The max.torque rating of mode I is spec'd at 100 ft lbs
 
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Ok thks for that linkup Hendricks433

As usual none of these tool reviews ever seem to publish torque numbers anymore. And last time I really ever remembering seeing any online was back for my 2655B and the 2655/54 models

Though most often the mode "torque numbers" were always found on the actual packaging box the tool came in. I have those numbers for all my Fuel impact wenches and drivers both 18v and 12v FUEL

Does Milwaukee still do this?

Now the Milwaukee operators manual gives these numbers for the two Mid Torque models


RPM Cat. No. .....................................................2861-20
Anvil Type ...................................1/2" Square-Ring Mode 1
No Load RPM .........................................0 - 510
Impacts per Minute .......................................420
Mode 2
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2100
Impacts per Minute .....................................2700
Mode 3
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2400
Impacts per Minute .....................................3000


Cat. No. .....................................................2860-20
Anvil Type .....................................1/2" Square-Pin Mode 1
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 1700
Impacts per Minute .....................................2300 Mode 2
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2100
Impacts per Minute .....................................2700 Mode 3
No Load RPM .......................................0 - 2400
Impacts per Minute .....................................3000


510rpm is a bit slow (even the ring anvil compacts do 900 rpm I think) but is still 5x faster than the 100rpm mode 1 on the original High Torque.

Now THAT is really dang slow :lol_hitti

And people always complained about it :D

Wow, thank you for posting this DFB.

I can't fathom why they would put a mode 1 on the pin model that is more than 3x faster than the friction ring model. Or why they would jump from 500 to 2000 rpm when going from mode 1 to 2. Seems that if they wanted mode 1 so slow, they'd space out mode 2 a little more evenly along the range of RPMs.


Anyway, looking at the bright side, I'm glad it isn't 100 rpm :beer:
 

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IMO its not really useless :D BUT its uses are limited. :D

Like the High Torque mode one is made just really for running down lugs, nuts or bolts.

Then I guess they expect you to tighten those fasteners to specifics in some other way. :dunno:

One thing is these impacts like the Gen 1 High Torque and now the new Mid Torque can really lay down some serious tightening TORQUE in the HIGHER MODES and with a fast RPM/IPM can you really control it how much it might apply???

I was doing a starter swap on my lawn tractor and I had used the High Torque to pop the cast iron flywheel with a screw puller And I had tried the compact first and wouldn't pop it thogh it take the nut off just fine. So the big guy come out and then I set it on reassembly with the low RPM mode one. No problem...

Anyhow long story short I had an issue with this job that I needed to go thru the removal motions a second time and upon THAT 2nd reassembly I inadvertently grabbed the High Torque with the socket on it still and still in mode 2 from the original removal and just tapped the flywheel nut. Honestly I over torqued that nut with just one burp of the gun that the compact wrench could not remove it again.

Freaked me out and quite glad I didn't damage or break something being a bonehead.
 
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510rpm is a bit slow (even the ring anvil compacts do 900 rpm I think) but is still 5x faster than the 100rpm mode 1 on the original High Torque.



Now THAT is really dang slow :lol_hitti



And people always complained about it :D



For the record, Mode 1 in the High Torque is 425 RPMs
 

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IMO its not really useless :D BUT its uses are limited. :D



Like the High Torque mode one is made just really for running down lugs, nuts or bolts.



Then I guess they expect you to tighten those fasteners to specifics in some other way. :dunno:



That's what I use it for and it works great (for me at least).
 

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bcradio (and any others) I apologize for the misleading numbers I originally posted describing mode 1 on a 2763

DerekV gave the correct speed


No doubt they are slow and I remember now it was what prompted me to get a digital laser tachometer, I had taken the impact to my buds motorcycle shop and after discussing it we went to another garage where the guys had a digiital tach and we read the speed at anvil/socket connection. Satisfied my curiosity because boy I did think it was slow.
 

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Adding more M12. Got the new Underwood light. It kicks add but havent seen run time with a 6.0 m12 battery. Pics of it on hi and low and size compared to the current Underwood led.

Also added the 3/8 fuel impact and fuel hacksaw.
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Aside from the weight, my only gripe with the 2763 is the button to change modes is extremely difficult to hit while wearing gloves.

I've considered the mid torque because it's much lighter for changing wheels, but the button from playing with it in the store without gloves seems even worse! Add an extra mode to switch through too and I'd rather deal with the extra weight of the 2763.

I remove the lugs in mode 2 and snug them up with mode 1 before using a torque wrench for final tightening. It might be worth just using the 2763 to remove then my M12 1/4" hex with an adapter to snug them up. Fastening torque doesn't matter as long as it's weak. Speed and not having to press that stupid button to change modes does matter.
 

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Aside from the weight, my only gripe with the 2763 is the button to change modes is extremely difficult to hit while wearing gloves.

I've considered the mid torque because it's much lighter for changing wheels, but the button from playing with it in the store without gloves seems even worse! Add an extra mode to switch through too and I'd rather deal with the extra weight of the 2763.

I remove the lugs in mode 2 and snug them up with mode 1 before using a torque wrench for final tightening. It might be worth just using the 2763 to remove then my M12 1/4" hex with an adapter to snug them up. Fastening torque doesn't matter as long as it's weak. Speed and not having to press that stupid button to change modes does matter.


I often use 2 different impact tools on a job too, using the High Torque mainly for removal chores unless its a big fastener that needs to be really tight like a lift arm pin on one of the farm implements or the compensator sprocket bolt on my Harley.

I am a bit surprised the Mid Torque didn't get that 4th mod, the 1 sec stop feature like the Gen 2 compact wrenches have now.

Maybe it's harder to do with heavier hitting wrench :headscrat

I agree about the buttons though they are extremely hard to activate with heavy gloves on. Now for me I find I can often snag the index finger portion of my gloved hand in between the trigger and the plastic that surrounds it as I release it. This is usually with a lighter glove like a nitrile coated. Those types of gloves are my new favorites as they allow for better dexterity handling fasteners than something like the padded mechanix type gloves. though have some of that style glove too. Depends on what I am doing I guess

My GC contactor bud always razz's me about wearing gloves he calls them hand shoes. He never wears gloves, and his hands and fingers are a rough mess. Of course he's the type of guy who still uses gasoline to clean his hands too! :lol_hitti
 

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LOL... I would if Gen2 would fit in the Gen1 case haha.

Without an auto mode its not the perfect tool I thought it was.

I told a Milwaukee rep how torque numbers foe the modes on all impacts was hard to find out. I was suppose to email him and he was going to see if he could find the numbers.

I guess you could roughly estimate RPMs to lbs but I wouldnt swear by it.

I had found the posted numbers on the mid torque in the manual, weird the mode 1 diff in rpms in ring vs pin, almost feel like its a typo. Can anyone confirm if pin model mode 1 runs that fast, I could confirm ring model if I ever took it out of case and put battery on it haha
What?!

Sell it to me!
 

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A faster mode 1 speed on pin models has been pretty common feature across the different lines of Milwaukee impact wrenches that I ever knew of.


So these are the numbers I got off my original boxes

2763 ring anvil
2 mode positions
100/700 ft lbs
Mode 1 is 425 rpm

2753 hex driver
3 mode position
16/58/133 ft lbs
Mode 1 is 850 rpm

2754 ring only
4 mode positions
30/75/210/ft lbs & 1 sec stop feature
Mode 1 is 900 rpm

2655B Ball pin style
3 mode positions
80/120/210 ft lbs
Mode 1 is 1700 rpm

2657 hex driver
2 position
50/125 ft lbs
Mode 1 2000 rpm

M12 Fuel

2452 ring anvil only
2 positions
10/42 ft lbs
Mode 1 1200 rpm


2453 hex driver
2 positions
14.5/100 ft lbs
Mode 1 1200 rpm

2454 ring anvil only
2 positions
17/117 ft lbs
Mode 1 1200 rpm



The owners manual PDF online should give the different mode 1 rpm speeds for the pin styles of the 2763, 2755, and 2655, but they don't list any ft lb numbers in the manuals.

Best I got :dunno:
 

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I often use 2 different impact tools on a job too, using the High Torque mainly for removal chores unless its a big fastener that needs to be really tight like a lift arm pin on one of the farm implements or the compensator sprocket bolt on my Harley.

I am a bit surprised the Mid Torque didn't get that 4th mod, the 1 sec stop feature like the Gen 2 compact wrenches have now.

Maybe it's harder to do with heavier hitting wrench :headscrat

I agree about the buttons though they are extremely hard to activate with heavy gloves on. Now for me I find I can often snag the index finger portion of my gloved hand in between the trigger and the plastic that surrounds it as I release it. This is usually with a lighter glove like a nitrile coated. Those types of gloves are my new favorites as they allow for better dexterity handling fasteners than something like the padded mechanix type gloves. though have some of that style glove too. Depends on what I am doing I guess

My GC contactor bud always razz's me about wearing gloves he calls them hand shoes. He never wears gloves, and his hands and fingers are a rough mess. Of course he's the type of guy who still uses gasoline to clean his hands too! :lol_hitti

My workplace prohibits using gloves while using a rotating tool ever since someone fractured a finger.
 

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Kinda disappointed w Acme today. I tried to order the 0882 vac for my mom as a birthday present. Their mobile site is kind of cumbersome and it took longer than it should have to click through a zillion screens to change the shipping address on my account, and then I inexplicably had to re-enter my billing address (which should be saved in my account).

I made sure I entered separate, correct shipping and billing addresses. When I submitted the final order everything showed up as my mom's address. Not sure if my cc would approve this (with an incorrect billing address), I called Acme. Customer service told me the order wouldn't show on their screens for about 30 minutes and to call back in an half hour (I already had an email confirmation and order number but this didn't matter they said).

So I made a second call and was told they could not alter any address on an order and she would just cancel my order so I could order again. She was very nice but just cancelled my order and said thank you, ready to let me go and did not offer to take my order again over the phone.

It seemed like a lot of hoops to jump through just to order a single gift online, esp when the error was not mine.

I re-ordered with homedepot.com. Acme lost a sale. I'll use them again but just annoyed with them today.
 

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......and I just ordered the underhood light from Home Depot, too.

Just couldn't wait for deals on this thing, I hate the cord on my present underhood light so much (it's a decent cord, but it's still a cord LOL)
 

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Sorry to hear about your experience with ACME Ign.

So what's the HD price on the light...and what did you get a -21 kit or -20 bare tool?

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I ordered from ACME Sunday evening to get my landscaper friend her pump. Got the pump, 2 pack of 3.0 XC batteries and the AC/DC M18 charger was $379 total minus the $20 off with summer20 code no sales and tax no shipping charges. So $359 delivered to my house by FedEx was shipped Monday.

I expect it here by Friday and I can give it her on the weekend at my sales job for the greenhouse. I know for a fact HD and UPS would never be that quick with delivery...at least not for me.

She my best customer most often purchases $200-$300 worth of plant products at a time and never less than $100 any day she comes by.

I first said I give her a brand new/never used multi charger seeing I have so many but when I had discussed the AC/DC charger unit so she could use on the road her eyes just lit right up!

Yup I'm a guy that can take a clue so I got one for her...and it's my treat too. :D


Though I am totally good with <$20 power stick style power invertor to charge my M12 stuff when I'm mobile plus I have the 300W invertor unit to run a dual charger I'm actually liking one those AC/DC chargers myself.

Is there a new AC/DC multi charger version coming...does anyone recall anything about that?

These originals units are specific to the tool platform just M18 or M12 but not both together.
 
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Looking to start my red collection, and am looking for some advice on which package to start with. Should I get something with more batteries? Or an extra tool?

Option #1 - two extra batteries: (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...ack-XC-Batteries-2897-22-48-11-1822/301560547

Or should I grab of these package deals with:
Option #2 - blower (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-Blower-Bare-Tool-2897-22CX-2728-20/301547317)
Option #3 - hedge trimmer (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...M18-Hedge-Trimmer-2897-22CX-2726-20/301547318)
Option #4 - one extra 5aH battery (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...5-0-AH-Battery-2897-22CX-48-11-1850/301547316)

No need for a hedge trimmer right now, blower isn't a big need either. With option #1 I get two 5aH and two 3 aH (16aH total) for $370 and with option #4 I get two 5aH and one 2aH (12aH total) for $300.

Is it better to go for more tools with a marginal need over spare batteries?

If the more batteries is the better value, does option #1 with more batteries provide a better value that option #4 with fewer batteries but a lower cost? I have Home Depot gift cards to cover the purchase, so my choices are limited to their offerings at this point.

Thanks for any help or insight you may be able to provide.
 
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Looking to start my red collection, and am looking for some advice on which package to start with. Should I get something with more batteries? Or an extra tool?

Option #1 - two extra batteries: (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...k-XC-Batteries-2897-22-48-11-1822/301560547)?

Or should I grab of these package deals with:
Option #2 - blower (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-Blower-Bare-Tool-2897-22CX-2728-20/301547317)
Option #3 - hedge trimmer (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...M18-Hedge-Trimmer-2897-22CX-2726-20/301547318)
Option #4 - one extra 5aH battery (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...5-0-AH-Battery-2897-22CX-48-11-1850/301547316)

No need for a hedge trimmer right now, blower isn't a big need either. With option #1 I get two 5aH and two 3 aH (16aH total) for $370 and with option #4 I get two 5aH and one 2aH (12aH total) for $300.

Is it better to go for more tools with a marginal need over spare batteries?

If the more batteries is the better value, does option #1 with more batteries provide a better value that option #4 with fewer batteries but a lower cost? I have Home Depot gift cards to cover the purchase, so my choices are limited to their offerings at this point.

Thanks for any help or insight you may be able to provide.
I would go with more tools over more batteries. With that being said I would go with the 299 kit plus the 5.0. Here's why:

- the blower is not great. Works good for general cleanup but will not replace your gas blower. Plus it eats batteries more than any tool I own.

- the hedge trimmer is awesome but I only use mine once a year

- the string trimmer is also great but if you don't need one, why bother?

- the impact combo with 2 5.0 batteries is sort of pointless because I can't see a time were I would burn through 16AH of energy before finding a charger with that kit. Plus if you want to go to more energy intensive tools the 9.0 is the way to go.

- the 299 kit comes with 2 xc batteries and one compact. More than you need for that kit and I would spend the extra cash on any other tool you need.

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Looking to start my red collection, and am looking for some advice on which package to start with. Should I get something with more batteries? Or an extra tool?

Option #1 - two extra batteries: (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...ack-XC-Batteries-2897-22-48-11-1822/301560547

Or should I grab of these package deals with:
Option #2 - blower (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-Blower-Bare-Tool-2897-22CX-2728-20/301547317)
Option #3 - hedge trimmer (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...M18-Hedge-Trimmer-2897-22CX-2726-20/301547318)
Option #4 - one extra 5aH battery (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...5-0-AH-Battery-2897-22CX-48-11-1850/301547316)

No need for a hedge trimmer right now, blower isn't a big need either. With option #1 I get two 5aH and two 3 aH (16aH total) for $370 and with option #4 I get two 5aH and one 2aH (12aH total) for $300.

Is it better to go for more tools with a marginal need over spare batteries?

If the more batteries is the better value, does option #1 with more batteries provide a better value that option #4 with fewer batteries but a lower cost? I have Home Depot gift cards to cover the purchase, so my choices are limited to their offerings at this point.

Thanks for any help or insight you may be able to provide.
The real question is what other tools you plan on getting. That drill and the impact driver will run just about forever on any of the m18 batteries. If you plan on getting several more tools down the road I would go for the 2 extra batteries. I hate needing to swap out batteries every time I go to grab another tool. No reason to get lawn tools you don't need. If you aren't going to expand you collection past those tools in the near future. Save the extra money and get the one extra battery. there is more than enough capacity to run those two tools. Just my .02

Disclaimer: I am new to Milwaukee. (See post to follow soon) I am talking from 8 years of experience with other brands, mostly Craftsman C3.

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I would go with more tools over more batteries. With that being said I would go with the 299 kit plus the 5.0. Here's why:

- the blower is not great. Works good for general cleanup but will not replace your gas blower. Plus it eats batteries more than any tool I own.

- the hedge trimmer is awesome but I only use mine once a year

- the string trimmer is also great but if you don't need one, why bother?

- the impact combo with 2 5.0 batteries is sort of pointless because I can't see a time were I would burn through 16AH of energy before finding a charger with that kit. Plus if you want to go to more energy intensive tools the 9.0 is the way to go.

- the 299 kit comes with 2 xc batteries and one compact. More than you need for that kit and I would spend the extra cash on any other tool you need.

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Thank you.

The real question is what other tools you plan on getting. That drill and the impact driver will run just about forever on any of the m18 batteries. If you plan on getting several more tools down the road I would go for the 2 extra batteries. I hate needing to swap out batteries every time I go to grab another tool. No reason to get lawn tools you don't need. If you aren't going to expand you collection past those tools in the near future. Save the extra money and get the one extra battery. there is more than enough capacity to run those two tools. Just my .02

Disclaimer: I am new to Milwaukee. (See post to follow soon) I am talking from 8 years of experience with other brands, mostly Craftsman C3.

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Good point, should have noted that these will not be the last M18 tools I purchase. Hence my thought that extra batteries could be useful. When those extra tools come is still TBD, but they will eventually.
 

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These finally showed up!!! These are my first Milwaukee tools. Got them for $280. Used but they work well. My only problem is the side handle and spanner wrench for the grinder is missing. Any suggestions or just find them on line. Is the OEM one best or is there another handle that is better?
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These finally showed up!!! These are my first Milwaukee tools. Got them for $280. Used but they work well. My only problem is the side handle and spanner wrench for the grinder is missing. Any suggestions or just find them on line. Is the OEM one best or is there another handle that is better?

IME most side handles are the same thread. I'd swing by a local metalworking shop and ask them if they have any scrap grinders laying around. Most shops trash at least one grinder a month. Or ask to dig through their scrap bin.

As for the spanner get it broken once and then tighten the circumference of the accy by hand - preferably with a gloved hand. I never use the wrenches anymore. But yeah, you can buy them a-la-carte in the tool section of HD
 

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I will think about that... I tried one side handle that I had and the threads were much smaller. I don't usually use the wrench either but I have had a few time were they get so tight from use that you need it to get them off...the wrench I had was to small too.

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These finally showed up!!! These are my first Milwaukee tools. Got them for $280. Used but they work well. My only problem is the side handle and spanner wrench for the grinder is missing. Any suggestions or just find them on line. Is the OEM one best or is there another handle that is better?
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Where did you get them from?

My impacts look quite similar get scratched easy without boots


The thread for the grinder handle is metric M10 X 1.5

Part# 42-62-0125

Wrench is 49-96-7205

They are available all over the web if you're looking to purchase them

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/side-handle-assembly-p-1441287.html

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/search_result.php?q=49-96-7205+


All the parts and operators manuals can be had online too if needed
 

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It was an eBay buy. Thanks for the threads that is very helpful and part numbers. My big question was whether the original is a nice handle or I should look for something aftermarket. I had used some HF grinders with a hard plastic handle and some metabos with a really awesome cushioned vibration isolated handle....big difference!!!

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The Metabo handles are very nice and very inexpensive. If they fit you may want to pursue that. I paid $6.79 for the comfort version.
 

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It was an eBay buy. Thanks for the threads that is very helpful and part numbers. My big question was whether the original is a nice handle or I should look for something aftermarket. I had used some HF grinders with a hard plastic handle and some metabos with a really awesome cushioned vibration isolated handle....big difference!!!

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The OEM Milwaukee handle is top notch for the Fuels... no crappy hard plastic junk

Has rubber overmold grip with a good sized diameter looks just like the photo in the e- replacement link
 

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The side handle for M18 Fuel hammer drill V1 and V2 are not compatible with each other.

IME most side handles are the same thread. I'd swing by a local metalworking shop and ask them if they have any scrap grinders laying around. Most shops trash at least one grinder a month. Or ask to dig through their scrap bin.

As for the spanner get it broken once and then tighten the circumference of the accy by hand - preferably with a gloved hand. I never use the wrenches anymore. But yeah, you can buy them a-la-carte in the tool section of HD
 

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Thanks to all for the heads up on the Amazon underhood light. IIRC $163 is even cheaper than the mysterious Dr Nick ("Hey Everybody!") was offering. I cancelled my HD order and went thru Amazon, plus my charity gets .5% through Smile.
 

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The first spare handle I pulled out of my scrap drawer fits. Threads are way too long but if you know how to operate a grinder that's a 30 second fix.

Honestly, the stock handle is heavy, I'm surprised Milwaukee didn't focus on this more for a cordless tool. That said, it would withstand a drop without shattering.

Stock handle: 6.8 oz
Cheap plastic spare handle I had: 3.7 oz

Doesn't sound like a lot but on a cordless tool you can oftentimes notice 3 oz
 
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Side handle from a Milwaukee corded 6153 12A monster: 5/16-18!!

This one says Made in Mexico. :D
 
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