So, how do I get into your will ?
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So, how do I get into your will ?
DFB
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AngryBeaver
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I'm good
for now....
cajunfirehawk
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Well this is a 1st for me; all excited to receive my order from Acme tools of 3 Milwaukee items; 0882-20 vacuum, 2728-20 blower, and the 2891-20 Bluetooth speaker.
Tried the blower first since I was just finishing my yard. Wow, wasn't impressed, just not powerful and I judged it against a $99 black friday ryobi 40v blower I bought last year. Back in the box it went. Next up the Bluetooth speaker, wide open in my shop it sounds fine, good bass but its really not like loud, wide open is like normal shop radio volume in my shop, back in the box it went. And I have an early edition JBL flip to judge it against, at that point I didn't try the lil vacuum, I was kind of let down and ready to get out of the heat. The blower and speaker are made well; nice and heavy duty but they just did not meet my expectations like the string trimmer and hedge trimmer did....YMMV
Tried the blower first since I was just finishing my yard. Wow, wasn't impressed, just not powerful and I judged it against a $99 black friday ryobi 40v blower I bought last year. Back in the box it went. Next up the Bluetooth speaker, wide open in my shop it sounds fine, good bass but its really not like loud, wide open is like normal shop radio volume in my shop, back in the box it went. And I have an early edition JBL flip to judge it against, at that point I didn't try the lil vacuum, I was kind of let down and ready to get out of the heat. The blower and speaker are made well; nice and heavy duty but they just did not meet my expectations like the string trimmer and hedge trimmer did....YMMV
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fivespdcat
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You somehow managed to buy the three most underwhelming tools in the Milwaukee lineup. The blower is fine as long as you calibrate your expectations. It's small, light and does a good job on concrete but it will not replace a gas for fall cleanup. I would not buy it for $150 but at less than $100 it's decent. BTW the blower has started to drop at my local HDs, its at $127.
Of course this is not an excuse for making average tools but I don't know if there are any really good alternatives of those tools in cordless.
The blower, you could argue Ego but they're expensive and still not equivalent to gas.
The speaker, I'm not exactly confident you can physically make a loud 12v radio with high quality sound that is also"jobsite" strong for less than $100 That would also run on 1.5a batteries. To get the power you need to up the power input.
The vacuum is the same as the blower. Just not enough energy in to turn it into high performing alternative. Remember most good powered shop vacs are running 13 amps at 110v.
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Got my M18 Die Grinder yesterday, been playing with it all morning, this things has some power. Definitely underestimated it. The only bad thing I can say about it is I'm a little surprised they didn't put an LED on it, they put them on everything now. Not that I'm going to be using it the dark but doing up inside corner welds and whatnot it would be nice. Great tool though. Runtime with a 9.0 is more than sufficient
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cajunfirehawk
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Yeah with acmes deal it came to like $100 per so Ill unload them and break even.
Ign
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WHICH RYOBI 40V do you have? Is it the Gen 2 w the clear "jet fan" window and "turbo" thumb button? If so, does it have a sickly groan/growl on start-up?
The GEN 1 Echo 58V blower is the most powerful I've used. These were cleared at $99 and now the Gen 2 Echo looks a lot like the Milwaukee (Echo is also TTI)
Does anyone have the M12 Sander/Polisher? I'm thinking about selling my Snap On since that and the cordless ratchet are the only reason I haven't gotten rid of that platform but the Fuel Ratchet is almost here.
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cajunfirehawk
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This one, http://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-r...CthDHfYWqbyL9J_Ym0Wtn9E7UpyMuT6BoCbgEQAvD_BwE
it works pretty darn good BUT not as good as my gas equivalent, IMHO
Ign
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Damn OK that's the Gen 1. Thanks for following up.
My wife loves the big Milwaukee blower 'cause it's light. But she's usually just blowing off patios, etc.
The Gen 1 Echo is pretty heavy but has an ingenious metal ring around the mouth of the tube for a debris scraper. Surprisingly useful. I wish Milwaukee woulda done this.
bcradio
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The blower is easily one of my favorite tools. It works excellent.
Ign
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Gen 1 Echo vs Milwaukee
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Ign
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Side view, Gen 1 Echo vs Milwaukee (sorry only 1 pic per post on my phone)
edit: here's the Gen 2 Echo. The pictures don't do it justice - in person it seems very similar to the Milwaukee
http://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-145...ry-and-Charger-Included-CPLB-58V2AH/300385645
edit: here's the Gen 2 Echo. The pictures don't do it justice - in person it seems very similar to the Milwaukee
http://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-145...ry-and-Charger-Included-CPLB-58V2AH/300385645
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I have it. Good for polishing not so good for sanding. Not dual action/random orbital.
Well it isn't really meant to be a sander, more like a angle die grinder with Roloc pads. I use a 90 die grinder a couple hours a day doing prep work, spot removing paint, cleaning welds etc. What's the runtime like?
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Trying to sand an interior plastic pillar piece smooth killed the small battery very quickly. I reverted back to my air sander
Polishing plastic toyota switches and the polishing the clear lens after sanding icons off with the larger 4amp battery used one light.
Sanding and polishing BMW headlights took 3/4 of a small battery
This my only red tool so I don't have any reference of how long or short the batteries are supposed to last. There are several m12 tools I wouldn't mind having but this tool has not made want to give up my dewalt.
Indy125
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Hi,
What can be used as an alternative to Milwaukee's "J" type grease for my M12 and M18 impacts? Milwaukee sells in a 1lb container, however, I won't ever need that much. Thanks for any info!!
What can be used as an alternative to Milwaukee's "J" type grease for my M12 and M18 impacts? Milwaukee sells in a 1lb container, however, I won't ever need that much. Thanks for any info!!
DFB
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Sad in way...the OPE blower has definitely had some poor feedback from posters though I have no personal experience with it, just the original M18 which works just fine for job cleanup needs, the only negative I can ***** about with that one is if your not careful the suction side of the motor can get pulled up into your pant leg using it right handed...just have to insure your holding it slightly out and away from your body somewhat.
The speaker I really like mine and it is loud enough with my recorded music to make ME turn it down in MY garage and I have also had request to tone it down at my outdoor flea mkt. Using it outside on my 5 acre property I can easily hear it 300-400ft away from where I have placed it. Obviously it is all dependent on the recorded music you are playing. I have 2000 songs or so in multiple album format on my cheapo Mp3 player...
(that wow looks so cool in black and red you would think it was from Milwaukee)
But I do notice with certain music that there are EXTREME differences in playback level, again its all about the original level of recording though. Even maxed out some stuff just doesn't scream.
As for the Vacuum well we all know it ***** both of the little ones do and IMO the newer M18 version was no improvement over the M12. I have said it before and will say it again that HEPA filter is the real restriction especially on my M12.
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Ign
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AvE was fairly impressed w the build quality of the BT speaker and said he liked the performance on a camping trip.
I know he's been fairly controversial lately but I like this video as he makes fun of himself after missing a screw and not being able to get it apart. Something to the effect that the greatest battle is when you're fighting your own stupidity.
Also can anyone tell me exactly which drills he says he loved that Milwaukee fucked up? I think it's at 32:30. I can't tell if V18 or V28....or possibly old ni-cad even? I no longer care for those long-snout old form factor after using the more modern, shorter cordless drills but to each his own. It's hard to deny that both the old V18 and V28 would take a beating, very hard to kill. And heavier but that also mostly equated to greater build quality.
I know he's been fairly controversial lately but I like this video as he makes fun of himself after missing a screw and not being able to get it apart. Something to the effect that the greatest battle is when you're fighting your own stupidity.
Also can anyone tell me exactly which drills he says he loved that Milwaukee fucked up? I think it's at 32:30. I can't tell if V18 or V28....or possibly old ni-cad even? I no longer care for those long-snout old form factor after using the more modern, shorter cordless drills but to each his own. It's hard to deny that both the old V18 and V28 would take a beating, very hard to kill. And heavier but that also mostly equated to greater build quality.
DFB
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So ACME has this #DOYOURBESTWORK promo code and Labor Day sale 5% off 2 items, 10% off 3 items, 15% off 4+ items.
(Man whatever happened to their great 20% off promos hey
)
Anyhow the hardtop rolling bag is supposed to be 15% off so does anyone think that its a good deal or could do better?
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-22-8220
(Man whatever happened to their great 20% off promos hey
) Anyhow the hardtop rolling bag is supposed to be 15% off so does anyone think that its a good deal or could do better?
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-22-8220
I have the roloc sander/polisher and it's one of my favorite M12 tools. Does a great job with rolocs cleaning up metal, and I've even started using it in specific circumstances on woodworking projects. Rolocs do a good job on that M12 sander cleaning up burn marks from saw blades on hardwood. As for the battery life, I see one of the greatest strengths of the M12 system to be that the batteries and chargers are dirt cheap. Its pretty easy to quickly acquire a whole fleet of M12 batteries which can be charged and at the ready when you need to swap. My one issue I've had with it is, the little roloc adapter it comes with unthreaded from the spindle. It's supposed to be glued together but I guess over time it gave out. One of these days I need to like loctite it back on but it still works, I just have to be a little careful when I'm unthreading a roloc that I don't unthread the backer from the spindle. I suspect if I contacted Milwaukee they'd probably send me another one but it hasn't really been much more than a nuisance.
In flashlight related news, I did some testing on the little M12 handheld worklights for another thread on here regarding replacing the incandescent bulb with an LED. I'm going to copy the same post in here because I figure it is of interest to the Milwaukee-ites in this thread.
Ok, I got around to doing some measurements. Current clamp, averaged over a couple of seconds.
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The only active electronics in them are the battery protection circuitry which should be minuscule draw. On a standard M12 2.0 battery, the run times should be approximately:
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On a 6.0XC battery, the LED lights would basically last forever.
One other big benefit of the LEDs is they are WAY cooler. I ran the incandescent just long enough for it to warm up and the current to stabilize, and when I went to swap back to the LED bulb I had to wait like 10 minutes for it to be cool enough to grab! Also, the LED version of the light's build quality is impossibly better than the incandescent one. The incandescent frankly feels like creaky plasticky trash, whereas the LED version is much more solid, and the head of it is even cast aluminum!
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You can also see there what I was talking about earlier how the reflector design is very different for an LED.
Here's a closeup of the LED replacement bulb I have vs. the original incandescent:
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The overall conclusion here is, if you already own the incandescent version, the LED bulb is better in some ways, but unless you can get it for cheap you're probably better off just throwing away the old one and buying an LED version since they are on eBay right now for 29$ and are a better overall tool.
In flashlight related news, I did some testing on the little M12 handheld worklights for another thread on here regarding replacing the incandescent bulb with an LED. I'm going to copy the same post in here because I figure it is of interest to the Milwaukee-ites in this thread.
Ok, I got around to doing some measurements. Current clamp, averaged over a couple of seconds.
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The only active electronics in them are the battery protection circuitry which should be minuscule draw. On a standard M12 2.0 battery, the run times should be approximately:
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On a 6.0XC battery, the LED lights would basically last forever.
One other big benefit of the LEDs is they are WAY cooler. I ran the incandescent just long enough for it to warm up and the current to stabilize, and when I went to swap back to the LED bulb I had to wait like 10 minutes for it to be cool enough to grab! Also, the LED version of the light's build quality is impossibly better than the incandescent one. The incandescent frankly feels like creaky plasticky trash, whereas the LED version is much more solid, and the head of it is even cast aluminum!
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You can also see there what I was talking about earlier how the reflector design is very different for an LED.
Here's a closeup of the LED replacement bulb I have vs. the original incandescent:
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The overall conclusion here is, if you already own the incandescent version, the LED bulb is better in some ways, but unless you can get it for cheap you're probably better off just throwing away the old one and buying an LED version since they are on eBay right now for 29$ and are a better overall tool.
Ign
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I don't really follow on the prices. An M18 5.0 is supposed to retail for $129 and a 9.0 is supposed to retail for $169. Granted, there are many deals out there - primarily secondary market - for much less but that doesn't really have anything to do with V28 or retail pricing in general.
V28 and M28 are completely compatible so Milwaukee didn't really **** on anyone there. It's the V18 users that got screwed when M18 did not interchange.
An M28 battery is $145.62 on Zoro right now so with a 20% code (I believe there are a few in the Zoro Deals Thread right now still valid) you're at $116.50 - - not that bad. There are still deals on ebay, too, even on M28. I recently purchased the redesigned M28 drill (vs the old, longer V28) with a new battery for a very competitive price on ebay.
Now, as for Milwaukee not standing behind V28 batteries - - yes, if that happened to you that *****. I never had any immediate problems with my V28 batteries, but they did seem to drop off in performance after 3-4 years.
I've said it many times here before: Milwaukee took a big leap with V28. They were the first major manufacturer to market with li-ion and V28 was it. Dewalt was still cranking out ni-cad XRP for several more years. Does it mean Milwaukee had the right to ignore V28 battery failures? Definitely not. And new technology often experiences early failure rates. And being an early adopter as a consumer often comes with risks, no different than buying the first Sprinter van or first EcoBoost or or or.....
But Milwaukee arguably gave the entire li-ion cordless tool market a big push when they released V28 and V18. I immediately saw the benefits: no memory to the batteries, on-board fuel gauge and fade-free performance as the battery discharges.
I would say Milwaukee is presently shitting on M28 users by not bringing the 5.0's into the States.
kctyphoon
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So ACME has this #DOYOURBESTWORK promo code and Labor Day sale 5% off 2 items, 10% off 3 items, 15% off 4+ items.
(Man whatever happened to their great 20% off promos hey
Anyhow the hardtop rolling bag is supposed to be 15% off so does anyone think that its a good deal or could do better?
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-48-22-8220
I don't have it, but I gotta say that rolling bag is not something I would personally considered buying from Milwaukee.. it's way too narrow in the depth department IMO, esp if you wanna carry power tools. If it were me, I'd look at the 22" husky instead, or look into the new Milwaukee Packout version.
Edit - here, check this video out. It gives a good comparison of the two.
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DFB
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So I got to put my new 1/2" High Torque 2767 to the test today. I was at work and noticed a leak coming from a large flange downstairs(never thought I'd get excited to see a leak), the flange is held together by several 1 5/8" head bolts, which are completely covered in rust and filth, as it's a water line. So I grab a big wrench and socket(my 3/4" Drive set is at home currently so I had to use a 1" drive 1 5/8" socket with not one, but 2 adaptors. That only further shows how mean this thing is though). Just for kicks I put my massive wrench on it and see if I can get it to move at all, I threw all 200lbs of me on this 2ft long wrench, and nothing. So I'm starting to doubt that this impact will be able to remove them. I slap it on there, throw it in mode 3(max) and pull the trigger. With 2 adaptors, it breaks it free in no more than half a second at most, and didn't hesitate a bit. It maybe impact 6 or 7 times. Needless to say I'm quite impressed. Now I'm sure my 2763 could've gotten it as well but not that effortlessly. Also with how tight it was I don't think my old 2763 would've fit. I know it's not often that 1/2" of extra length is going to make a difference but it sure came in handy today.
Here's some pictures of the fasteners, the wrench I used, and the gun.
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MikeF2316
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I don't remember anybody praising the 0882 vacuum. The 0880 is the good one. But it's still not as powerful as a full size shop vac, just good for its convenience.
I love the leaf blower. It's not quite as good as a corded one, but is close. And it's so much more convenient. I find myself taking it out for short uses (under a minute), because there's no cord or gas to mess with.
I love the leaf blower. It's not quite as good as a corded one, but is close. And it's so much more convenient. I find myself taking it out for short uses (under a minute), because there's no cord or gas to mess with.
jgromada
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Home Depot had this on M12 sale this weekend. Buy 3 and get the 4th tool for free. I got the M12 ratchet with mine. Very nice for only $199. I was looking at the ratchet alone and with two batteries and the tool it was $150 so basically for $50 more I got 3 more tools!
I think this deal is running for a while http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2498-23-2457-20/302348924
I think this deal is running for a while http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2498-23-2457-20/302348924
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kctyphoon
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One of these days I'm gonna pick up that little m12 saw.
Actually considering the small m18 vac.. that feeling may pass though. Gonna pick out some fiberglass snakes and rodders for work first.
Actually considering the small m18 vac.. that feeling may pass though. Gonna pick out some fiberglass snakes and rodders for work first.
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Dennis Leigh Henry
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I purchased the Hackzall last weekend and used it Saturday to cut out a couple of old boxes at my dad's place to replace with the larger old construction box, so we could get GFCI outlets in them. Worked like a charm (and way less time consuming than using a bayonet style manual hacksaw).
DFB
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The little Hackzalls they are pretty handy to have considering how inexpensive they are to buy or even being a "free tool" that they often are as advertised. Obviously they don't replace having a big sawzall around but they still can do lot within reason, and beats using a hand held hacksaw most any day at least for me. Usually the bigger the better with them though, can hardly wait for the new M18 FUEL reviews ...any price on that yet? :
:We pick up a m12 hacksaw for one of our plumbing trucks. 2 days later I had put 2 of them on each truck, and we use the piss out of them. It like someone said above, It doesn't take the place of the m18 sawsall, but it gets into places the larger one can't. If I am on a ladder , or in a lift, the m12 sawzall and 1/4" hex impact stay in my tool belt.
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Ign
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The OMT's work great for this, too, assuming drywall.
I've also removed nail-in boxes by prying the anchoring side away just enough to slip in an OMT metal blade and buzz through the nails. Works incredibly well.
DFB
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Now that use of an OMT in the scenario Ign described to cleanly remove a nail head or ******** stripped head screw so many are found of using sounds promising. Up to now I haven't had much interest in owning one of the OMT's and even with all the installation and renovation work I often do I had only thought to myself maybe twice "Now that would be just the right tool to get this done" I always make due with something else. Stuff like cutting door jambs and molding flush with new flooring I have owned several specialty offset handled handsaws and reinforced back fine tooth trim saws for decades. But I say I'm never to old to learn something new right 
I tell ya though I have put that tiny M12 to the test even cutting off a piece of 2x2 x1/4" square tube piece of bridge rail. I guess it took about a 3x the time my corded Makita did after the fact. One small piece took about 9 min, stopping once for vibes and bit of cooling vs 2 1/2 min straight cut with full size saw but it got it done didn't fry out, took about 3/4 of an XC battery still works fine yadda yadda yadda. Blade choice and quality was more important aspect to me than the tool too IMO
I tell ya though I have put that tiny M12 to the test even cutting off a piece of 2x2 x1/4" square tube piece of bridge rail. I guess it took about a 3x the time my corded Makita did after the fact. One small piece took about 9 min, stopping once for vibes and bit of cooling vs 2 1/2 min straight cut with full size saw but it got it done didn't fry out, took about 3/4 of an XC battery still works fine yadda yadda yadda. Blade choice and quality was more important aspect to me than the tool too IMO
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