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dacan23

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I have every piece except the new slim orgs which I will get when they are on sale in Nov, the packout cooler, Oh I also want the packout tech bag and backpack and then will sell my non packout ones.

The bags are meh and overpriced, the smaller one is just a big empty bag, no organizing pockets inside, the bigger one has a few pockets inside.

The totes are nice but way too expensive. The medium and large one have pockets on one half and the other half is open which is nice, the small tote is the biggest waste of money.

The totes were out from beginning, bags came out in the spring, the cooler, tech bag, and backpack were just released same time as the slim orgs.

It's a stupid handle..

Speaking of packout, did anyone else notice all the other **** they have for it now?? Tool bags, back packs, cooler..?? When??

I’m gonna have to investigate just out of shear curiousity to see if its “possible” to make that handle slide out a few inches.. this isn’t even for me.. friend of mine might be trying to start his own business, and of course I’m suggesting all Milwaukee stuff (when its the best or very good option). I wanna be able (or i should say, i want HIM to be able) to wheel an organizer around that can also carry a cheap folding plastic table too. Like one of those Lifetime plastic tables.. if that dumb handle would extend 4” - it would be perfect.

And MIlwaukee needs to make some packout pieces that dont need to be disassemble from the stack to access what’s inside.. just one of two drawer options would be nice.. just sayin Milwaukee..
 

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Got new plastic for the original floody to accomodate for the 12ah. The original floody is my most used Big Red Light.

I'll have to find the older threads that has the info but for anyone in the know and can sum it it

What's with the M18 6/9/12ah and the M12 6ah. Are these 3 the *high demand, high output*, aka, more wattage delivery than the latters of the lineups.

I seem to recall blurbiage than the 9AH had more power delivery than the 12 ?


Anyhow, not of the M12 suggest high output, but before buying my Stubby, a youtube video showed 4ah now breaking a bolt loose, but by using the 6ah battery, it did, albit slowly :headscrat

The 12.0 and the high output or high demand 6.0 (i dunno if theres a 9.0) use newer type battery cells..

Typically - the higher the amp hour rating, the tools should deliver slightly higher torque.. basically, if you take a drill, and swap a 2.0, a 5.0, a 9.0 - you can clearly hear the difference in the top speed of the drill comparing them.

This is a very poor, and minimal effort (on my part) way of explaining it. The m12 6.0 should give you more torque than a 4.0 of equal charge.
 

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Got new plastic for the original floody to accomodate for the 12ah. The original floody is my most used Big Red Light.

I'll have to find the older threads that has the info but for anyone in the know and can sum it it

What's with the M18 6/9/12ah and the M12 6ah. Are these 3 the *high demand, high output*, aka, more wattage delivery than the latters of the lineups.

I seem to recall blurbiage than the 9AH had more power delivery than the 12 ?


Anyhow, none of the M12 suggest high output, but before buying my Stubby, a youtube video showed 4ah NOT being able to break a bolt loose, but by using the 6ah battery, it did, albit slowly :headscrat


For M18, it goes: 6ah HO & 12ah HO > 9ah > 3,4,5,6ah XC > 2.0, 1.5ah

The 6/12 HO use 21700 cells, where as everything else is 18500. They are able to handle temperatures better, as well as are able to potentially discharge at a faster rate, giving more power. I don't have the exact #s, but I think the 9ah may have a higher total watt-hours, but is based off the old batteries, so cant provide as much power on demand.

As far as the M12, the XC batteries (3,4,6ah) provide more available power than the compact batteries (1.5,2,3), but should really be equal between the equivalent pack sizes. The XC have to sets of cells inside, so when using something like a saw, it can provide more power.

In my opinion, as there are a good number that think otherwise, impact tools are rated how they are rated, not battery dependent. If a battery could change this rating, they would advertise as such, or only package them with certain batteries. With that, a larger output battery, is more likely to provide all the power the impact is demanding, but not necessarily increase it's capability.

edit: as far as the video goes, what would have happened if he kept going with the 4ah? Have you ever had someone ask you to open a jar, you try but can't, so you hand it back, then they pop the top off easy? Nothing is a guarantee, but I bet the 4ah would have slowly got it off as well after a few more seconds.

I think I have to send a suggestion to Ave on Youtube to somehow test these scenarios.
 
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Re: The boots. The boots for the stubbys are NOt listed on Milwaukees site when I type in Boot and whatever comes up

For the M18 High Torque, it is just 1 boot for the High Torque or is there a new one for the newest one ? I just removed it off my former HT and put it on the new 1400lb HT. The boot is a smigen too big . The older one I can see is a bit bigger, as when I put it in the blow mold case of the new one, it doesn't exactly fit
 

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The parts diagram (on Milwaukee's website) has the part # for the boots (if one is available, that is). If it's not there, they don't make a boot. The parts diagrams are available at product release 99% of the time, and worst-case available a month or two later.

Being that this is asked several times a year, perhaps it should be a sticky :D
 

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If a battery could change this rating, they would advertise as such, or only package them with certain batteries.

Tools are basically rated for the batteries that they are packaged with.

With that, a larger output battery, is more likely to provide all the power the impact is demanding, but not necessarily increase it's capability.

Usually for an M18 tool, the bigger the battery, the more power a tool will put out. This is dependent on the tool though.
 

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Heres all the boot numbers I have in my file.

M18 Fuel 1/2 Gen1 Impact Boot 49-16-2763
M18 Fuel 1/2 Gen2 Impact Boot 49-16-2767
M18 Fuel 1/2 Mid Torque Boot 49-16-2860
M18 Fuel 3/8 Impact Boot 49-16-2754
M12 Fuel 1/4 Ratchet Boot 49-16-2556
M12 Fuel 3/8 Ratchet Boot 49-16-2557
M12 Fuel 1/2 Ratchet Boot 49-16-2558
M12 Fuel 3/8 & 1/2 Boot 49-16-2554
M12 Fuel 1/4 Hex Impact Boot 49-16-2553

Will have to see if the MT 1/2 boot fits the MT 3/8, havent seen anything about a boot specific to the MT 3/8

Maybe I need coffee or going blind

https://documents.milwaukeetool.com/54-26-2732.pdf
I dont see the boot
 
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The way this thing mounts is stupid..

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Tools are basically rated for the batteries that they are packaged with.

Where do you get that from? and if true, there are impact kits that come in 2ah or 5ah kits, which would we go by?

Shaners256 said:
Usually for an M18 tool, the bigger the battery, the more power a tool will put out. This is dependent on the tool though.

First line of my response. You sort of have to be careful about the wording when it comes to power & batteries. While a 9ah (18650 cells) may run a tool longer, it's "total power", it won't have as much "available power" compared to running on a 6ah HO battery (21700 cells). So a 9 might put out more power & run longer, but it won't be (potentially) as powerful
 

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The way this thing mounts is stupid..

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I wanted one for a long time instead of the 12v, now I don't. :( Handle at the bottom?

I thought for sure you would have that bad-*** made for buckets light they have.

...Now seeing the specs, it seems week compared to what is otherwise available from them. Was a good idea, but now seems way over priced for the output.

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That bucket light would become an $800 bumb stop.. maybe good for the power lineman - or someone else.. not so much for what i do. Especially these days in the areas i work in. Anything that hangs outside the bucket just gets caught on **** or broken.

I had my company order two $400 metal parts bin from Altec, DESIGNED for the trucks they already had. They hang off one side of the metal bucket to hold bolts. one of them lasted a week before i had to ask for the owners to order another. The guy turned a welded rectangle into a rhombus before he stopped to think “why isn’t the boom extending, and what’s all that noise?”. One of the smaller metal trays would up through someone’s windshield. These guys are too inexperienced and careless for anything like that anyway, even if i did think it was a good option.

Honestly - I WISH i could get a job as like a consultant or design idea person for one of these bucket truck manufactures. You’d think with led strips being so thin and indestructible that they could incorporate something right into the bucket or the frame itself.

I was just looking at a 4500 lumen 12v light that works off a cigarette lighter plug with a magnetic base..

That m18 rover i just got, took me about a minute to figure out how to mount the stupid thing just to get the light pointed to where i wanted it. Why they hinged that lens the way they did is beyond me.

I really like this light, but not the short cord... they shoulda just made it 110v if they were gonna make the power cord so short. Yea - it’ll extend to 12’ I’m sure - as long as you have a guy sitting in the cab HOLDING that plug in the cigarette lighter.

https://www.jharlen.com/p-12849-golight-gxl-portable-led-work-light.aspx


Wonder if i can find just the head.

Bribed someone to get a few of these at my last company.. awesome lights.. the 9490 is less than that Milwaukee bucket light I believe.

 
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Still complaining about the M18 Rover? LMAO You might be more pissed than I was a year ago.

Trying to FIND a way to mount it so you can actually point it where you want it to go should be a challenge for an IQ test.

I think I'm gonna try to get that 4500 lumen golight I posted anyway.. I'll figure what to do about the stupid cord on that thing too.
 
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Yup, theres almost no mounting way for the adjustable face to be useful. Maybe 1 in 100 uses would you clamp or mag it to something then want the face to flip out to the mounting point

I swear it was a design mistake. The only way the flex face is useful is to stand it on its rear.

Hmm wonder if you can take it apart and flip the whole front assembly to the way it should of been. LOLOLOL maybe they put them together wrong at the factory.

Trying to FIND a way to mount it so you can actually point it where you want it to go should be a challenge for an IQ test.

I think I'm gonna try to get that 4500 lumen golight I posted anyway.. I'll figure what to do about the stupid cord on that thing too.
 

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Don't see these 12.0/6.0 promo packs lasting long at $249.

Also in the holiday section is a rapid charger and 5.0 for $99 which ain't bad. Funny the sign has a regular charger in the picture.
 

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I don't use the single rapid charges much as we have the 6 bayer
I did happen to use it the other day with a 12ah

Does it make any slight noise during use ? Or maybe it's a new ~burn in~ on the charger
 

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Nope thats the normal rapid charger buzz/hum.

I don't use the single rapid charges much as we have the 6 bayer
I did happen to use it the other day with a 12ah

Does it make any slight noise during use ? Or maybe it's a new ~burn in~ on the charger
 

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Buddy is claiming the 12.0 burnt up his super hawg. Has anyone put a 12.0 through a lot of use and with what? Besides the new tools that come with the 12.0. Maybe the 12.0 will really blow up the V1 wet/dry vac like we all thought the 9.0 would 2 years ago LOL
 

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Trying to FIND a way to mount it so you can actually point it where you want it to go should be a challenge for an IQ test.

I think I'm gonna try to get that 4500 lumen golight I posted anyway.. I'll figure what to do about the stupid cord on that thing too.

Since it's 12v, you could power that thing with an M12 or M18 battery (and power source) if you wanted to. A big M18 battery like the 9.0 or 12.0 should run for a long time. Just cut the end off the cord and add a 5.5x2.1mm plug.
 

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if i were to only buy one, i would get the M18 2861 "mid-torque"

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2861-20

were i to get another, i would get the M12 2555 "stubby"

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2555-20

these should suffice for 95% of what you will see with most light and mid duty vehicles.

if i regularly ran into things beyond, i would get the 2763 "high torque"

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2763-20

i have not used the my high torque since getting the mid-torque. i got a 3/8" "stubby", rather than a 1/2", and while it has been mostly adequate, there are things that are too rusted for it, but the mid-torque has been adequate for that need.

the issue, of course, is that this involves buying into both batteries. the benefit is that the small gun is much lighter with the M12 batteries.
Thanks!
What about the electric ratchet? 3/8 or 1/2?
 

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What about the electric ratchet? 3/8 or 1/2?

I went 3/8 on the M12 stubby impact and 3/8 on the M12 ratchet. Most of the mechanics I work with have a M12 1/4” and M12 3/8” ratchet, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with the M12 1/2” ratchet, maybe one guy.
 
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I went 3/8 on the stubby impact and 3/8 on the M12 ratchet. Most of the mechanics I work with have a 1/4” and 3/8” ratchet, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with the 1/2”.


are we confusing impact and regular sockets?

i had mostly 1/2" impact. (i have a few 3/4" and 1" from a tool box that i bought, but have not added anything.) when i restarted dealing with motorcycles a few years ago, i got some 3/8" impacts and the then current 3/8 milwaukee impact.

i got the 3/8" stubby because i already had the sockets, and they tend to be smaller, which meant it fit in a tighter space.

as for regular sockets, i find myself either using 1/4" or 1/2" almost exclusively. today i used a 3/8" socket because the 1/4" i have didnt go high enough, and the spacing was tight, so i used that wright 3430 ratchet.

were i starting today, i think i might pass on 3/8" sockets, but i am sure that i am a minority of one around here.
 

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are we confusing impact and regular sockets?

i had mostly 1/2" impact. (i have a few 3/4" and 1" from a tool box that i bought, but have not added anything.) when i restarted dealing with motorcycles a few years ago, i got some 3/8" impacts and the then current 3/8 milwaukee impact.

i got the 3/8" stubby because i already had the sockets, and they tend to be smaller, which meant it fit in a tighter space.

as for regular sockets, i find myself either using 1/4" or 1/2" almost exclusively. today i used a 3/8" socket because the 1/4" i have didnt go high enough, and the spacing was tight, so i used that wright 3430 ratchet.

were i starting today, i think i might pass on 3/8" sockets, but i am sure that i am a minority of one around here.

I was speaking specifically of what I see more of M12 ratchet wise. The most common is the M12 1/4” ratchet, either the non fuel or the Fuel. Many of the techs I see in the car shops also have the M12 3/8” ratchet. I’ve only seen one tech who had the M12 1/2” fuel ratchet. I wasn’t suggesting anything about the use of 3/8” drive vs 1/2” drive generally.
 

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I was speaking specifically of what I see more of M12 ratchet wise. The most common is the M12 1/4” ratchet, either the non fuel or the Fuel. Many of the techs I see in the car shops also have the M12 3/8” ratchet. I’ve only seen one tech who had the M12 1/2” fuel ratchet. I wasn’t suggesting anything about the use of 3/8” drive vs 1/2” drive generally.


sorry, i read too much into your original post.
 

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I was hoping for the M18 table saw to come with an extra 12 Ah battery

Don't see these 12.0/6.0 promo packs lasting long at $249.

Also in the holiday section is a rapid charger and 5.0 for $99 which ain't bad. Funny the sign has a regular charger in the picture.
 

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I want this to be an in-store offer, we can return the battery to get additional off with the saw. The saw comes with one 12Ah battery. There's an additional 12Ah battery included with the purchase right now, but only seems eligible online for now

 

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I want this to be an in-store offer, we can return the battery to get additional off with the saw. The saw comes with one 12Ah battery. There's an additional 12Ah battery included with the purchase right now, but only seems eligible online for now

So if we buy it and ship it to the store, there is no way to return the extra battery without returning the table saw too?
I was hoping it would be like their past promo where they discount the price of both items so you could return the battery (or free tool).
 

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Home Depot has the Milwaukee demolition gloves on sale for $14.97. Posted in deals thread and hope ok to post here as well in hopes it may help some folks.
 

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So if we buy it and ship it to the store, there is no way to return the extra battery without returning the table saw too?

I was hoping it would be like their past promo where they discount the price of both items so you could return the battery (or free tool).



Unfortunately, I don’t think it works in that case, in my check out screen the breakdown of prices doesn’t even show

It’s far more convenient to try in store when the sale unfolds
 
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