The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[kctyphoon]

Really frustrating move on Milwaukee’s part. They look identical except for the quick-lok shaft. Pissed, nothing wrong with the current wacker.

Definitely want the attachments, so looks like I’ll be selling off the gen1.

I would be really surprised if Milwaukee didnt offer something to make everything work together.. its unlike them. I mean they offer free parts kits for lights they made what, 4 years ago, to work with batteries they just released.. why spend 2 years selling a trimmer with the same “power unit” as this thing, and then NOT make it work with new accessories. Do they expect customers to just buy another tool and upgrade - or should they offer a “bolt on/ screw on” shaft kit to use all the new items with the original trimmer.. I’m too lazy to go take a closer look at my trimmer to see if it LOOKS like they planned ahead.. maybe tomorrow i will.

 

[dacan23]

I was thinking the same thing they might offer a retro kit to convert gen 1 to use the attachments. Thing that led me to believe it wont happen is it wouldnt be cheap, 2 pole pieces to replace the the 1 piece and surely many other parts, plus a whole new wacker head maybe.... Its not like a few plastic bits and screws to adapt the lights.

Plus the released the gen2 blower after only one year without a care, the wacker has had double the product life lol

I would be really surprised if Milwaukee didnt offer something to make everything work together.. its unlike them. I mean they offer free parts kits for lights they made what, 4 years ago, to work with batteries they just released.. why spend 2 years selling a trimmer with the same “power unit” as this thing, and then NOT make it work with new accessories. Do they expect customers to just buy another tool and upgrade - or should they offer a “bolt on/ screw on” shaft kit to use all the new items with the original trimmer.. I’m too lazy to go take a closer look at my trimmer to see if it LOOKS like they planned ahead.. maybe tomorrow i will.

 

[Shaners256]

You won't have to buy a string trimmer if you already have it. There will be a pole saw kit and then you can add attachments that way for people that already have the string trimmer.

 

[dacan23]

What I think your saying is there will be a full pole saw kit and then I could add the other attachments to that. But then I will have the old wacker and the new base with pole saw, which isnt really a solution.

I have a HD coupon good till March'ish. Hopefully a promo comes buy the new kit with an attachment for free..

You won't have to buy a string trimmer if you already have it. There will be a pole saw kit and then you can add attachments that way for people that already have the string trimmer.

 

[sweet victory]

I'm after some advice from people who have the 3/8 m12 ratchets - do you use them much?

I got over to home depot (wow!) and had a look at the m12 fuel and regular ratchets. They were both bigger than I expected, the fuel was HUGE! I had planned to buy one, but weighing it in my hand, I'm wondering if I would use the stubby impact instead.

If you're getting a cordless ratchet - I would get the non fuel 1/4" drive first.

 

[Shaners256]

What I think your saying is there will be a full pole saw kit and then I could add the other attachments to that. But then I will have the old wacker and the new base with pole saw, which isnt really a solution.

Yeah, that is what I was saying. I guess my point is no one is being forced to buy a new string trimmer if they already are happy with theirs, this just opens up everything to more possibilities in the future.

 

[dacan23]

Holy **** $400! With only a 9.0. The bare hedger attachment is $180 which is same price as the full tool. I hope these are not the real prices.

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-2...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYASABEgJ-IvD_BwE

New base model is 2825, yup I am screwed. All the attachments have their own model number.

https://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=m18+2825

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-4...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYAiABEgL1ifD_BwE

New stuff at the bottom

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tool...ageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&

LOL, page error

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Outdoor-Power-Equipment/49-16-2722

Pricing makes zero sense, pole attachment is $50 more than wacker attachment, but pole kit is $70 more than wacker kit.... maybe pole kit includes the additional 3' extension.

 

[dacan23]

You can now order the new HO tools bare tool

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-outdoor-power-equipment/milwaukee-2727-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2732-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2722-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2736-20

 

[Shaners256]

Pricing makes zero sense, pole attachment is $50 more than wacker attachment, but pole kit is $70 more than wacker kit.... maybe pole kit includes the additional 3' extension.

Yeah, the pole saw kit does include a 3' extension pole. I do wish they had decided to offer a bare power head.

 

[kctyphoon]

I'm very upset right now.

 

[falconero]

I'm very upset right now.

Yep, dewaltie talkie just doesn't have the same ring to it...

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

 

[WunTon]

Holy **** $400! With only a 9.0. The bare hedger attachment is $180 which is same price as the full tool. I hope these are not the real prices.

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-2...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYASABEgJ-IvD_BwE

New base model is 2825, yup I am screwed. All the attachments have their own model number.

https://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=m18+2825

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-4...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYAiABEgL1ifD_BwE

New stuff at the bottom

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tool...ageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&

LOL, page error

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Outdoor-Power-Equipment/49-16-2722

Pricing makes zero sense, pole attachment is $50 more than wacker attachment, but pole kit is $70 more than wacker kit.... maybe pole kit includes the additional 3' extension.

I sure hope this means they start clearancing out the old wackers soon cause that's really all I have a use for. I suppose I could use the edger but for the 12ft I need to edge I can manage just fine with a wacker.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Holy **** $400! With only a 9.0. The bare hedger attachment is $180 which is same price as the full tool. I hope these are not the real prices.

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-2...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYASABEgJ-IvD_BwE

New base model is 2825, yup I am screwed. All the attachments have their own model number.

https://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=m18+2825

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-4...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYAiABEgL1ifD_BwE

New stuff at the bottom

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tool...ageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&

LOL, page error

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Outdoor-Power-Equipment/49-16-2722

Pricing makes zero sense, pole attachment is $50 more than wacker attachment, but pole kit is $70 more than wacker kit.... maybe pole kit includes the additional 3' extension.

I wish they had the hedge trimmer & power head packaged, I really don't need any of the other heads or any more batteries and chargers.

 

[cgrutt]

So school me on Milwaukee infrared temperature sensors. Is there any difference between the 9 V version over the M12 version except price. Just need 2 mejor temperature before painting but would like to stay with the M12 version . Thank you.

 

[2manytools]

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New stuff at the bottom

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tool...ageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&
...[/url]

I saw the 10" replacement chain listed, and even though I know the pole saw is a major item coming, my mind still jumped to: is there a M12 chainsaw coming? Wishful thinking I don't know, but I probably should make myself horizontal asap

Thanks for all the links and details Decan & Shaners

 

[2manytools]

I'm very upset right now.

They should have licenced Milwaukee's USB batteries

While i get ganged chargers, and I'm sure you can by it solo later on, but not having independent chargers prevents someone from charging it on their own time. I know some Motorola multi chargers could just charge a battery for a quick swap, which that looks like it missing. It does have a lifetime warranty though, just need to figure out how to get Dewalt to warranty them out & get me Milwaukee's (you know they are coming)

Yep, dewaltie talkie just doesn't have the same ring to it...

Milwaukee Talkie does though

 

[techieman33]

They should have licenced Milwaukee's USB batteries

While i get ganged chargers, and I'm sure you can by it solo later on, but not having independent chargers prevents someone from charging it on their own time. I know some Motorola multi chargers could just charge a battery for a quick swap, which that looks like it missing. It does have a lifetime warranty though, just need to figure out how to get Dewalt to warranty them out & get me Milwaukee's (you know they are coming)





Milwaukee Talkie does though

There's nothing to license. It's just a standard 18650 in a fancy shell that they're charging 5x what you could buy the bare cell at retail. That whole line of theirs is a ripoff. If you want a small light the market is full of options that a better and cheaper in every way.

 

[2manytools]

There's nothing to license. It's just a standard 18650 in a fancy shell that they're charging 5x what you could buy the bare cell at retail. That whole line of theirs is a ripoff. If you want a small light the market is full of options that a better and cheaper in every way.

I agree with the over pricing of the batteries, but it's more a complaint of the Dewalt using a non-standard cell that can't be charged independent. At least if it is, they don't call it out.

Coast has had a similar battery setup for a couple years now. You can either use the Li-Ion with USB charging or a cradle that holds AAA's to power their lights, which is my absolute favorite hand-sized flashlight (HP8R), as I prefer the light output over the comparable Milwaukee. Even their non-18650 cell pack has a micro-USB port to charge, so easily implemented.

 

[kctyphoon]

There's nothing to license. It's just a standard 18650 in a fancy shell that they're charging 5x what you could buy the bare cell at retail. That whole line of theirs is a ripoff. If you want a small light the market is full of options that a better and cheaper in every way.

That may not be entirely true. Milwaukee uses a proprietary battery chemistry made to their specs. Not saying other off the shelf models are far off, but there is a difference and youre getting an "idiot proof" enclosure as well.

 

[Aleksey Anufrikov]

That may not be entirely true. Milwaukee uses a proprietary battery chemistry made to their specs. Not saying other off the shelf models are far off, but there is a difference and youre getting an "idiot proof" enclosure as well.

Agree with "idiot proof" enclosure, but do not think that the chemistry is so special. At least, in most M12 / M18 batteries they use quite good but relatively usual Samsung cells (INR18650-15M / INR18650-20R / INR18650-25R / INR18650-30Q / INR21700-30T / INR21700-40T). Something really interesting might be in M18 control boards algorithms, but that is not about M12 / USB light batteries.

 

[dacan23]

I already started thinking about crazy ideas for other heads....think other systems have some of these Power sweeper/broom one of those giant spinning brushes, which also doubles for light snow removal from walks. Some kind of power spinning car wash thingy, could also be used to clean house exterior or something. Post hole digger/auger. Cultivator.

I wish they had the hedge trimmer & power head packaged, I really don't need any of the other heads or any more batteries and chargers.

That hedge trimmer looks crazy and dangerous. Maybe they will have a base & head set for each, but doubtful, only one listed is the wacker & base for $229. I think everything in this new system is way too expensive.

I saw the 10" replacement chain listed, and even though I know the pole saw is a major item coming, my mind still jumped to: is there a M12 chainsaw coming? Wishful thinking I don't know, but I probably should make myself horizontal asap

Thanks for all the links and details Decan & Shaners

LOL, perhaps that could be true, how sweet would a mini 10" M12 chainsaw be.

 

[DFB]

So school me on Milwaukee infrared temperature sensors. Is there any difference between the 9 V version over the M12 version except price. Just need 2 major temperature before painting but would like to stay with the M12 version . Thank you.

Mind linking up the exact ones YOU are looking at?

Milwaukee has 3 models on their web site that use 9v all have different features including Temp range/Emissivity.spot range, and most the M12 battery powered ones are no longer listed except for just one model just the 2276

I am guessing you are maybe thinking of the M12 2278 though as it is close in price to a couple of the 9V offerings the 2268 and 2267

The 2278 (M12)and the 2268 (9V) spec the same except for the battery style and are the same price at ACME $109 .

The 2267 is 10:1 range and has lower max temp $89

All have fixed "E"

None of them really do any more than the $25 HF unit ($17 with coupon right now).


I have 4 different temp guns all 9v ranging from a sub $20 one to a $200 30:1 one with adjustable "E" and 10 functions. And guess what...in general they all pretty much read the same within 2 degrees of each other at normal room temps.

Still if choosing between the two Milwaukee's I would go for a M12 battery powered myself as the 9V battery seems to go out when you least expect, and I do find my self changing batteries more often than I care too.

If the battery voltage droops too low the readings will be erratic, also they can be by taking continuous repeated readings.

 

[dacan23]

Yeah I have the M12 temp gun, took forever to get a good deal on it. I only wanted the M12 one, even though some of the 9v ones are the same. Have a few cheapo HF ones, dont know if I ever ran comparison tests, that might require replacing their batteries which is almost too much trouble.

I also I have the M12 spot thermal imager, which I really dont need, but is a cool toy and got a super deal on it.

 

[white91formula]

Holy **** $400! With only a 9.0. The bare hedger attachment is $180 which is same price as the full tool. I hope these are not the real prices.

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-2...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYASABEgJ-IvD_BwE

New base model is 2825, yup I am screwed. All the attachments have their own model number.

https://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=m18+2825

https://www.toolnut.com/milwaukee-4...MIxZCY_47h3wIVyAOGCh001QeFEAQYAiABEgL1ifD_BwE

New stuff at the bottom

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tool...ageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&

LOL, page error

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Outdoor-Power-Equipment/49-16-2722

Pricing makes zero sense, pole attachment is $50 more than wacker attachment, but pole kit is $70 more than wacker kit.... maybe pole kit includes the additional 3' extension.

I wonder how many 3" extensions you will be able to put together and still have enough power to cut with the pole saw attachment.

 

[Shaners256]

That hedge trimmer looks crazy and dangerous. Maybe they will have a base & head set for each, but doubtful, only one listed is the wacker & base for $229. I think everything in this new system is way too expensive.

If you think they're expensive, take a look at the pricing for Echo's PAS. https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-5-3-ft-PAS-Power-Head-Articulating-Hedge-Trimmer-Attachment-99944200596/302703347

 

[DerekV]

Milwaukee is out of their mind. Replacing the perfectly fine, nearly identical trimmer with a new one --- and ridiculously priced attachments. Next up will be a mower that only takes two batteries (instead of 3 or 4 which would be nice...why not...needs the watt/hours to be competitive anyways), and (cherry on top) uses one at a time rather than draining both together in parallel (which is better for performance and battery life/longevity). They're starting to lose me with these questionable strategies. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the mower and the trimmer retrofit, but I don't think I will be...

 

[dacan23]

LOL, one overpriced system does not justify another.

Any attachment should be about $100, some $20 less and some $20 more.

If you think they're expensive, take a look at the pricing for Echo's PAS. https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-5-3-ft-PAS-Power-Head-Articulating-Hedge-Trimmer-Attachment-99944200596/302703347

 

[dacan23]

Remember a few months ago when I said what are the hidden things that will come out before NPS19...... We'll when you have a huge cache of Gen1 wackers, you cant announce at NPS18 this new OPE before you clear out most of the old inventory. Plus they usually reserve the post holiday time to piss us off...

BTW, I WILL NOT be pissed when they come out with the M18 Fuel infaltor because I have grown tired of how slow the M12 is. One of my four vehicle snow tire change overs, all 4 tires were about 15psi cause I hadn't used them in 2yrs, took forever to bring them to 36psi.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

I have grown tired of how slow the M12 is. One of my four vehicle snow tire change overs, all 4 tires were about 15psi cause I hadn't used them in 2yrs, took forever to bring them to 36psi.

Take one wheel off, put one on and hook the inflator up to it. Let it fill while you change the next wheel and repeat. I've never had to wait as the inflator is always done or close to it by the time I finish the next wheel.

 

[kctyphoon]

I realize this doesn’t make any sense to do - cause its not cost effective... but to me, it looks like the “3 foot extension” for the new Milwaukee string trimmer multi tool thing - is what is being used as the output shaft off the base of the motor and battery.. so - acknowledging that even IF that was the case - and even IF Milwaukee GAVE you that $59 output shaft to convert your current trimmer to accept new accessories - you would still need to then buy the trimmer head just to get back to where you started, and then buy another accessory to finally make use of the system..

Guaranteed - there will be a promo where you buy the new string trimmer and get your choice of accessory head for free..

But yup - it looks like we MIGHT be fucked...

I think the only glimmer of hope would be them offering us a 2 piece shaft conversion. which that alone would NOT be too expensive to do, if we could use the existing trimmer head. we’d just need the output shaft of the new base unit, and the input shaft on the new string trimmer head, that we could then attach to just the trimmer head we already own - ASSUMING the heads themselves attach to the shaft the same way.

So lets assume the worst possible “good scenario”.. assuming they kept all other design factors the same, Milwaukee just split the shaft into 2 pieces. It would make sense to not change what you didnt need to, so thats entirely possible.. We may be able to make a parts order and buy the new 2 piece drive shaft, and replace the shaft ONLY on the current trimmer. If it was possible to do that conversion, i cant see (based off previous offerings) Milwaukee NOT offering an incentive to do that.. “either well ship you the parts, or you can send it in and we’ll do it for you”.. if they were willing to do that to make the rocket lights accept new 12.0 batteries, maybe theres a shot they’d do it for the trimmers..

I mean really - its 2 pieces of aluminum and a fiberglass or composite drive shaft.. theres gotta be a way.. looking at the pics of it, it APPEARS the new trimmer head and the old trimmer head attach to the shaft the same way.. so if you can just swap in the new 2 piece shaft on the old base unit, we MAY have a shot..

If we were smart - one of us could just CALL Milwaukee and ask.. lol. Although i think the parts manager didnt know they were offering the free battery conversion until after the press release for that, which was AFTER we found out about the 12.0 battery.

 

[wrenchguy]

My local Ace has the 2750-22ct driver set-up @ $100 clearance. Is this a good price? tia.

 

[jimreed2160]

Take one wheel off, put one on and hook the inflator up to it. Let it fill while you change the next wheel and repeat. I've never had to wait as the inflator is always done or close to it by the time I finish the next wheel.

I agree. The inflator is a "fire and forget" device. It's like having a helper. I just hook mine up and go do something else while it works. It is not much fun to watch and is also VERY loud. The part I enjoy the most is not having to squat and crawl around on the ground.

 

[MikeF2316]

I agree. The inflator is a "fire and forget" device. It's like having a helper. I just hook mine up and go do something else while it works. It is not much fun to watch and is also VERY loud. The part I enjoy the most is not having to squat and crawl around on the ground.

+1 You can always do other things, the inflator announces when it's done with silence. When I put my snow tires on, I cleaned the inside of my windshield while waiting for the it to fill one of the tires.

 

[techieman33]

That may not be entirely true. Milwaukee uses a proprietary battery chemistry made to their specs. Not saying other off the shelf models are far off, but there is a difference and youre getting an "idiot proof" enclosure as well.

Your buying into the "red lithium" marketing ****. I've never seen any evidence that they use a custom cell.

 

[kctyphoon]

Your buying into the "red lithium" marketing ****. I've never seen any evidence that they use a custom cell.

Watch video comparisons between genuine and aftermarket m18 batteries in cold weather. I’m not a chemist, so i cant swear I’m right and your wrong, but its not unusual for a company like Milwaukee to ask for specific design parameters to be placed into the products made FOR THEM by other companies..

When we sell arms to foreign countries, its not unusual for those military’s to request certain changes be made to suit their own needs. Someone more knowledgeable then me might step in, but I believe this was discussed some time ago.

 

[kctyphoon]

Anyone realize Milwaukee has new heated jackets now - aside from the tough shell and the hoodies..

Axis heated jackets and vests.. - jacket looks like it has heat on the shoulders, chest and back.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear/Heated-Jackets/203-20

 

[trackwelder]

Does anyone have the heated gloves? Looking for something to keep my hands warm running the snowblower or getting onto to the lake to ice fish.

 

[techieman33]

Watch video comparisons between genuine and aftermarket m18 batteries in cold weather. I’m not a chemist, so i cant swear I’m right and your wrong, but its not unusual for a company like Milwaukee to ask for specific design parameters to be placed into the products made FOR THEM by other companies..

When we sell arms to foreign countries, its not unusual for those military’s to request certain changes be made to suit their own needs. Someone more knowledgeable then me might step in, but I believe this was discussed some time ago.

That's more from the knockoffs using cheap batteries than Milwaukee having their own spec. From the teardown videos I've watched the Milwaukee batteries have always had off the shelf cells with identical labeling to what you would buy from any other vendor. Maybe there is something to warm the cells up a little on the circuit board. But they probably just do some testing on the cells and choose ones that work better in colder weather.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Anyone realize Milwaukee has new heated jackets now - aside from the tough shell and the hoodies..

Axis heated jackets and vests.. - jacket looks like it has heat on the shoulders, chest and back.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear/Heated-Jackets/203-20

I've had the Axis vest for a few months and I'm considering selling my tough shell jacket to get the Axis jacket as well. The tough shell is more durable material but it's stiff and bulky. The Axis gear is a lot more comfortable, heats up much quicker, and gets hotter overall. I still like my hoodie as well, but my tough shell never gets worn.

 

[Aleksey Anufrikov]

My local Ace has the 2750-22ct driver set-up @ $100 clearance. Is this a good price?

I think, even if you do not need old 1-mode impact driver, 2 additional batteries and a charger for 100$ is not a bad deal.