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Thanks guys! Better to have the heated layer closer to the skin and then add insulation on top if needed?

That's how I like to do it but to each their own. I typically don't like to wear a jacket anyway unless it's down to single digits or lower, so I'd rather have the heated vest and a decent hoodie over that. The tough shell jacket is a lot more durable than the others, so if I doing something where a hoodie might get caught or torn I'll wear the jacket over just a long sleeve shirt or something light.

If you're not worried about durability, the Axis vest and jacket heat up a lot faster and get warmer than the hoodie or tough shell jacket. Very comfortable too, the tough shell jacket is a bit rigid and stiff.
 

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I need some recommendations if someone would be so kind.

I work exclusively on BMW cars and I want to buy some Milwaukee tools and I want to be sure I choose well. Here I can't test anything beforehand, so here goes.

M12 Fuel 3/8 Ratchet
M12 Fuel Stubby 3/8
M12 Impact Driver
M18 1/2 Impact Mid-Torque for lug bolts.
M18 FPD + M18 FID

Are these good choices? Should I buy something more?
 

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CP- Compact (3 cells in M12, 5 cells in M18)
XC - Extended Capacity (6 cells in M12, 10 cells in M18)
HD - High Demand (15 cells in M18)
HO - High Output (New gen cells in M18)

I like how they finally put numbers on all the packs.

M12 CP 1.5, 2.0, 3.0
M12 XC 3.0, 4.0, 6.0
M18 CP 1.5, 2.0
M18 CP HO 3.0
M18 XC 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.0
M18 XC HO 6.0, 8.0
M18 HD 9.0
M18 HD HO 12.0
 
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CP- Compact (3 cells in M12, 5 cells in M18)
XC - Extended Capacity (6 cells in M12, 10 cells in M18)
HD - High Demand (15 cells in M18)
HO - High Output (New gen cells in M18)

I like how they finally put numbers on all the packs.

M12 CP 1.5, 2.0, 3.0
M12 XC 3.0, 4.0, 5.0
M18 CP 1.5, 2.0
M18 CP HO 3.0
M18 XC 3.0, 4.0, 5.0
M18 XC HO 6.0, 8.0
M18 HD 9.0
M18 HD HO 12.0

:beer:

Everybody best put that on their fav's
Probably be answering inquiries for while :lol_hitti
 

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CP- Compact (3 cells in M12, 5 cells in M18)
XC - Extended Capacity (6 cells in M12, 10 cells in M18)
HD - High Demand (15 cells in M18)
HO - High Output (New gen cells in M18)

I like how they finally put numbers on all the packs.

M12 CP 1.5, 2.0, 3.0
M12 XC 3.0, 4.0, 5.0
M18 CP 1.5, 2.0
M18 CP HO 3.0
M18 XC 3.0, 4.0, 5.0
M18 XC HO 6.0, 8.0
M18 HD 9.0
M18 HD HO 12.0

You forgot M12 XC 6.0 and M18 XC 6.0 :)
 

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Picked up the 2771 transfer pump this afternoon and for my use am disappointed.

I am attempting to get water off a pool cover but it is leaving a significant amount behind, about an inch deep.

Any thoughts on how to scavenge more of the water off the cover?
 

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Picked up the 2771 transfer pump this afternoon and for my use am disappointed.

I am attempting to get water off a pool cover but it is leaving a significant amount behind, about an inch deep.

Any thoughts on how to scavenge more of the water off the cover?

This might be a stupid question, but is the cover laying flat? Throw a brick or something with some weight on top of the cover, and create a low spot to act as the bottom of a well, and place your pickup hose in that.
 

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Picked up the 2771 transfer pump this afternoon and for my use am disappointed.

I am attempting to get water off a pool cover but it is leaving a significant amount behind, about an inch deep.

Any thoughts on how to scavenge more of the water off the cover?

Little giant pumps...they have two types...LL means low level which is what you want....they come with a float switch and flat bottom piece that sits on the cover. The weight creates a depression and **** out everything.

They are pricey...should last 6-7 years...then the float craps out...which can be replaced...

The one you want is Little Giant 5 AP CP pool cover pump...about 143 on Amazon.
 

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This might be a stupid question, but is the cover laying flat? Throw a brick or something with some weight on top of the cover, and create a low spot to act as the bottom of a well, and place your pickup hose in that.

Long explanation but that will not work. Thanks for the suggestion.

Little giant pumps...they have two types...LL means low level which is what you want....they come with a float switch and flat bottom piece that sits on the cover. The weight creates a depression and **** out everything.

They are pricey...should last 6-7 years...then the float craps out...which can be replaced...

The one you want is Little Giant 5 AP CP pool cover pump...about 143 on Amazon.

Thanks! That does look pretty good.
 

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Today I did a little unscientific run time test with a knock-off battery just to see how it really compares to the real deal. The battery in question is a Vanon branded M12 XC4.0 and I put it in my M12 Rover fresh off the charger and left the light on "high" until it started flashing letting me know the battery was almost dead. Got just over 2 hours. Then I did the same test with a genuine XC4.0 and got 3 hours 45 minutes.

The knock-off batteries usually work fine, but just realize the amp-hour number they put on it is probably bogus. But it was only $25 brand new, so I'm not upset about it.

I was also impressed by the battery life out of the real XC4.0. If my math is right, it should have only gotten 3 hours according to Milwaukee claims of getting 4.5 hours out of a XC6.0 on high.
 

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M18 HO Compact 3.0 and HO XC 8.0 coming.

https://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m18-cp3-xc8-cordless-power-tool-batteries/

Great after I amassed a bunch of HO 6.0s thinking nothing new would come.... few HO 8.0s and I would completely ditch my HD 9.0s.

I'm excited for the HO 3ah slims more than anything else. There's a lot of tools that would benefit from a little more power and runtime than a compact 1.5 or 2ah but without extra weight and heft. I'll likely be getting a couple of those.
 

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I’m not sure about the 4.0 - but on the smaller batteries you can just pop off the top and pull the cells out to see them. I have a couple of the powerextra m12’s. I think they were advertised at 2.5, i think the rating was like a “maximum” 2.1 when i googled the numbers on the cells - so its safe so say its under a 2.0 in reality, esp when it said made in Korea, and further digging turned up “North Korea”. It guess its likely a 1.5 battery - but seeing as for MY use, the runtime really wasnt important. It was the convenience of having multiple packs.
 

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I’m not buying anymore batteries Milwaukee - blow me



Haha, my thoughts exactly. I’d love to stock up on the new batteries but I need to wear out my current stash first, and that’s not happing anytime soon. Milwaukee battery packs are damn stout.

Stoked on the new CP 3.0. I use my 2.0s a ton and I’ll definitely be getting whatever HO CP exists when the 2.0s die.

The HD 6.0s are ******* batteries IMO. Just as big as the 9.0s but don’t have the run time of them. I’m sure they’re better in very high demand situations but not better enough for me to wanna get em. Now the 8.0s are where it’s at. I bet they’ll exceed the performance in almost every way compared to the 9.0s. But they’re no 5.0 size wise. The new XC batteries are basically 9.0 sized. A run of the mill XC5.0 is TINY compared to them. “How much better can they be?” is what I keep asking myself. My 2.0s, 5.0s, and 9.0s just keep going...

I’m sure they’re better, but not better enough.

Stoked on the new 6” grinder too. Definitely picking that up [emoji1690]
 

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what are the opinions of the new M18 fuel jib saw 2737b? it seems to sell for twice what the non-fuel M12 2445 sells for. . . . . is it twice the saw?



I have the D handle one and it’s a beast. Very nice tool. Aside from the obvious performance differences from the brushed one, the led light makes it worth the $$$ IMO.
 
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I must be the only person that gets a phone call at 8pm that goes - “ I’m online about to buy some knipex cutters, should i buy the 8 or 10 inch ones?” - that has THIS picture already on his phone to send the guy -

All 3 sizes of the older red/black handle milwaukee’s left out of this lineup cause they ****. Bragging rights to whoever can correctly name every model.. lol
I hate to admit that even the current Milwaukee models are not impressive. The best part about the current Milwaukee cutters is the non slip grips. Hopefully one day they can actually come up with something that can challenge Klein.

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My thoughts exactly.. in 2 years they’ll be marketing a 18.0 for their friggin ride on tractor

But you know that will be pretty cool to have though... How badass wpuld it be for a Milwaukee Fuel riding lawnmower?
 

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after having used my PACKOUT stacks for awhile, there are two items that I think are necessary, rather than desirable.

1) a half width (five compartment organizer sized) foot. when I take a tool bag, with one or two of those organizers attached, and I set it down on the ground, I am concerned about the bottom box getting bashed up (or full of mud)and not locking into the stack anymore.

the plastic on the bottom of the tool bags is different, and I would assume will hold up better. but I admit if I had a foot, I would likely use it there, too.

2) a full width bin. maybe a foot tall. something I can put a 100' roll of Romex, along with some boxes, covers, switches and receptacles into. I would be fine that this needs to attach to the top of a stack.

I have finally gotten control of the tools, but I still thrash around for something to bring the consumables in. having something that attaches to the stack, instead of falling off and scattering sh!t all over the ground (or requiring a second trip) would be very useful.

the best part is that neither of these would really require a lot of engineering resources to develop. these could be shipping by May if someone started on them now (*cough*).
 

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Yeah really, use to have M18 1.5, 3.0, 4.0 then converted to all 2.0, 5.0, 9.0 now ditched some 5s & 9s for 6.0 & 12.0. If I knew the 8.0 was coming so soon I wouldnt have five 6.0s.

Its even for me to unload my batteries on people so not a big deal. Hopefully there will be some deals on the CP 3.0 & XC 8.0 this summer.

BTW the 6.0/12.0 charger pack at HD is on clearance at $179... not that theres any left around.

I’m not buying anymore batteries Milwaukee - blow me

Haha, my thoughts exactly. I’d love to stock up on the new batteries but I need to wear out my current stash first, and that’s not happing anytime soon. Milwaukee battery packs are damn stout.

Stoked on the new CP 3.0. I use my 2.0s a ton and I’ll definitely be getting whatever HO CP exists when the 2.0s die.

The HD 6.0s are ******* batteries IMO. Just as big as the 9.0s but don’t have the run time of them. I’m sure they’re better in very high demand situations but not better enough for me to wanna get em. Now the 8.0s are where it’s at. I bet they’ll exceed the performance in almost every way compared to the 9.0s. But they’re no 5.0 size wise. The new XC batteries are basically 9.0 sized. A run of the mill XC5.0 is TINY compared to them. “How much better can they be?” is what I keep asking myself. My 2.0s, 5.0s, and 9.0s just keep going...

I’m sure they’re better, but not better enough.

Stoked on the new 6” grinder too. Definitely picking that up [emoji1690]
 

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A guy owed me and sent a knockoff XC 6.0 and compact 2.0 battery as comp, was pissed because he didnt know they were fakes. Ended up give me some $ back and told me to keep the batteries. I wont use them and now will give away super cheap to someone I know.

Funny thing about them is one in Vanon and other I cant remember, but one battery meter lights up fast while the other the bars flash so slowly. So even all the fakes are not created equally.

Today I did a little unscientific run time test with a knock-off battery just to see how it really compares to the real deal. The battery in question is a Vanon branded M12 XC4.0 and I put it in my M12 Rover fresh off the charger and left the light on "high" until it started flashing letting me know the battery was almost dead. Got just over 2 hours. Then I did the same test with a genuine XC4.0 and got 3 hours 45 minutes.

The knock-off batteries usually work fine, but just realize the amp-hour number they put on it is probably bogus. But it was only $25 brand new, so I'm not upset about it.

I was also impressed by the battery life out of the real XC4.0. If my math is right, it should have only gotten 3 hours according to Milwaukee claims of getting 4.5 hours out of a XC6.0 on high.
 

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I use my batteries in the cold regularly and the ones AvE tested suffered dramatically in the cold, so I'll never buy knock-offs.

I accidentally received some alleged M18 6.0 first-gen knock-offs (since the first gen 6.0 was mostly a unicorn) and one was DOA in the box anyway.

The real Milwaukee batteries work so well and can be had affordably in the secondary market... I've never understood why anyone is trying knock-offs.

Milwaukee really does put a lot of effort into their batteries since the reputation of every cordless tool essentially hangs on the battery. And real Milwaukee batteries will last you YEARS (usually 5 on the short end, 9-10 on the long side).

Buy once, cry once.

I'm all for aftermarket when it addresses problems and/or does it BETTER than OEM (GM pump rub fix kits come to mind, and tie rod sleeves) but here aftermarket is just cutting corners to save a few bucks. That savings is false economy if the batteries are short lived or your tools don't perform well.
 

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The 9.0 special shipping stuff is hilarious. First terminal covers go on the battery, then it goes in an anti-static bag and that goes in a small box and that goes in a larger box and that goes in a larger padded box.

They seriously are fans of Russian nesting dolls.

They provide "special reinforced tape" and you are ONLY to use their tape. What's hilarious is look at the third pic - they pre-tape the bottom of the outer box and they did a ****** job, leaving a lot of space between the flaps and main body of the box. But never fear - it's got the special tape!

What's also funny is they sent this "kit" UPS next day air but they took 3 days to send it out. Kinda seems to negate the point......AND it has to go back UPS ground (prepaid) so it's not like anything is gonna happen quickly here (which is fine)
 

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I've had to send two of my three 9.0s in...one thing's for sure...the packaging is nothing but heavy duty :D
 

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I figure if I ever need to ship weapons-grade plutonium I now know how following the 9.0 model shown above ;)
 

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What happened to them? They flat out died or you realized they were not putting out full power? I have often thought some of my 9.0s were not operating at 100%. The old 6.0 probably showed the issues more thats why it never came out, they needed to have a 9.0 in the market so it was still released and maintained despite any issues.

Really believe they are going to kill the 9.0 by the end of 2019, especially with that XC HO 8.0 coming out.

I've had to send two of my three 9.0s in...one thing's for sure...the packaging is nothing but heavy duty :D
 

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What happened to them? They flat out died or you realized they were not putting out full power? I have often thought some of my 9.0s were not operating at 100%. The old 6.0 probably showed the issues more thats why it never came out, they needed to have a 9.0 in the market so it was still released and maintained despite any issues.

Really believe they are going to kill the 9.0 by the end of 2019, especially with that XC HO 8.0 coming out.

The failures happened about 8 months apart from each other.

Out of no where, the run time on one of them dropped a considerable amount, like 25%. At the same time, this particular pack got much warmer than the other 9.0s in the herd. I decided to pop the covers off of all of my 9.0s to check things out. Interestingly, two of the three has the brown LG cells while the other had the pink Samsung cells. The first failure was one of the brown LG packs. I measured voltage across all of the cells and one cell per parallel set was much lower than the rest, which for the record were all bang on equal voltage wise, I was impressed how well they balance (when they're not failing, of course :D ). The result was a "fully charged" pack that measured like 19.2 volts rather than 20.65ish. Those three bad cells brought the entire pack down in all categories. I called them, sent it in, and I received a new one in return.

For kicks, I checked out the new pack and it consisted of the pink Samsung cells. Hmm.

Fast forward 8 months and same thing happened to another 9.0. Which one? My last remaining brown LG pack. Called, sent in, received new, also a pink Samsung pack.

If you have any 9.0s, and you're not a total ***** (i.e. use common sense and don't set your house on fire), I suggest checking to see if you have any with the brown LG cells. If you do, measure the voltage across each cell and see if any are off from the others in the respective pack. You'll know...it'll be at least 0.1+ volts off. If you find one, call it in before you have real problems...it'll happen out of no where.
 

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I did some work with my M18 Fuel SDS drill(think its 1 9/16") this last weekend, and three of my five 9.0 were getting really hot. The other two stayed cool to the touch. Oddly enough I got three all at the same time, and two in another kit. Wonder if the three are the three I got last march from Acme tool.
 

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Nope nothing has been discontinued, you can still get a brand new in package battery of every single one they have made for M12 & M18. Now whether or not every single one is still being manufactured is the real determination of what may be discontinued, which we will never know, until the supply chain is fully exhausted.

have they discontinued any batteries though? you can still get 1.5AH in kits, even though there is a 2AH battery . . . . .
 

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What happened to them? They flat out died or you realized they were not putting out full power? I have often thought some of my 9.0s were not operating at 100%. The old 6.0 probably showed the issues more thats why it never came out, they needed to have a 9.0 in the market so it was still released and maintained despite any issues.

Really believe they are going to kill the 9.0 by the end of 2019, especially with that XC HO 8.0 coming out.

There was only 1 acting up. It'd show, say, 3 bars then after 10 seconds of use on my grinder it'd die and flash a single bar. Put it on charger and within a few seconds it shows 3 bars.

The charger would also then flip to solid green (full charge) but even then it would only reflect 3 bars. Now that ALONE could just mean the 4th LED failed but given the weird behavior above that's NOT the only problem

edit: their shipping "kits" apparently only come as shown, with provisions for 2. They're specific that if only mailing one battery leave the second empty box in place
 
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Technically the OLD like 1.3ah M12 batteries have been discontinued :D. They eventually settled on the 1.5s being the minimum

I still have some of the 1.3's from like 2009 (all black bottoms w text, no silver or red stripes on the identifiers)
 

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There was only 1 acting up. It'd show, say, 3 bars then after 10 seconds of use on my grinder it'd die and flash a single bar. Put it on charger and within a few seconds it shows 3 bars.

The charger would also then flip to solid green (full charge) but even then it would only reflect 3 bars. Now that ALONE could just mean the 4th LED failed but given the weird behavior above that's NOT the only problem

edit: their shipping "kits" apparently only come as shown, with provisions for 2. They're specific that if only mailing one battery leave the second empty box in place

I believe he was asking in reference to my two packs that died, hence the plural "them". But yes, same conditions existed for me as well. Button said 3 bars, voltage measured low 19s (which is in "3 bar range"), charger was green. All of this indicates toasted cell(s), which I was able to confirm by taking the covers off and taking some voltage measurements.
 

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Well that sounds much worse than Dereks, like you had most of the cells fail. I havent put mine through a ton of use that maybe only a cell or two are bad. Though when I sell my used 9s I usually give the older ones, so maybe I only have the newer ones left.

Will have to do some testing.

There was only 1 acting up. It'd show, say, 3 bars then after 10 seconds of use on my grinder it'd die and flash a single bar. Put it on charger and within a few seconds it shows 3 bars.

The charger would also then flip to solid green (full charge) but even then it would only reflect 3 bars. Now that ALONE could just mean the 4th LED failed but given the weird behavior above that's NOT the only problem

edit: their shipping "kits" apparently only come as shown, with provisions for 2. They're specific that if only mailing one battery leave the second empty box in place
 
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