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Finally bought the m12 soldering iron. I like it for situations that I can stand it up and basically use it as a 3rd hand. It’s big, bulky and out of balance when I need to hold it in my hand though. Maybe it’ll be something I get used to?

You see those new waterproof **** connectors that have solder built into them? Those things look amazing in the videos.. lol

 
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You see those new waterproof **** connectors that have solder built into them? Those things look amazing in the videos.. lol


Those look pretty cool. But at $1 each I think I'll continue to use regular **** connectors or solder and heat shrink. There seem to be plenty of knockoffs out there. Problem with those is the reviews. Lots of generic "these are great" reviews, but about 10-15% seem to be that the heat shrink melts/burns before the solder does.
 

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You see those new waterproof **** connectors that have solder built into them? Those things look amazing in the videos.. lol


Could have used those for some trailer re-wiring. Those look great. I suppose he was showing off the all-in-one-ness of the connector, but no flux? I guess my wires are more important than his :bounce:
 

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Could have used those for some trailer re-wiring. Those look great. I suppose he was showing off the all-in-one-ness of the connector, but no flux? I guess my wires are more important than his :bounce:

They work great, I purchased a kit of different sizes off Amazon for cheap.
 

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On my first rapid station I had for a long time, about a year ago one M12 slot stopped charging, just flashing lights, then that slots M18 stopped working but then no lights at all, then another bank went out.

Sent it in for service and got a brand new one in return, but this time a whole M18/12 bank went dead in a month. Sent in for service and got a new one back again.

I am pretty careful about inserting the batteries. I think the problem is with new batteries and perhaps the HO's, where the terminals in the battery are so tight it breaks the terminal connections on the charger when you have to use some force to insert them.

Dacan, what went wrong, or what do you think went wrong with your chargers?
 

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I thought the Packout Dollies would come pre-assembled but guess that would not make sense. You have to install the wheel casters and the foot brake. When I heard about the foot brake I thought it locked the wheels, it doesn't, you step on it so the dolly doesn't move when loading or unloading, which is helpful. The foot break is mounted underneath with 2 big 1/4 pins like the snow blower shear pins and it has a big spring to keep it in position.

Lets start with what I like about them, ummm not much, the foot brake but I also dislike it so....

First off I got pissed when assembling them, there are 2 locking casters and 2 non-locking. I wanted to put the locking casters on the side instead of front or back. WTF you can not do that, the shafts for the casters are different sizes between the locking ones and non-locking. Therefore the holes they mount in are different sizes. Why oh why oh why! So you can only put the locking casters in the front and others in the back.

The casters are pretty heavy duty, at least 80-100lb casters, so why is the dolly only rated for 250lbs???

The caster/wheels are too big, the dolly then has about 4" of ground clearance, why does it need so much, the whole dolly then is so big that its almost a large box height off the ground. I would rather have something lower that doesn't add so much height to the stack.

I really do not like how there is about 1.5-2.5" of space all around, why isn't it the same profile as the large box, why does the platform need to take so much more space then all the boxes stacked. If you had 2 packout stacks with the roller side by side you can get them close where theres a tiny space between them, with the dollies front to back you would have 3"+ between them and side to side is prolly close to 5".

Then the foot brake sticks out even further than the dolly. Another thought on the foot brake, it forces you to always load/unload from the front. You could lock the casters, but it would be nice if the foot brake locked into position until you stepped on it again.

I really don't have anything great to say, sure it serves a purpose but it seems poorly thought out. Over the past few years I have questioned many of their designs, I have now completely lost faith in them to design anything well.

For $90 I was expecting something sooo much better. Definitely will not be buying any more, complete waste of money.

Also has anyone noticed the packout boxes are not level? I thought they would be level on the dolly, nope, the dolly is level. I dont know if this is intentional, the roller naturally is not level intentionally, but the rest of the boxes are slightly skewed forward.

Will post my very negative review tomorrow
 

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I have thought about waiting to the Packout mounting plates are available and then just attach them to a dolly from Harbor freight or something.
 

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The caster/wheels are too big, the dolly then has about 4" of ground clearance, why does it need so much, the whole dolly then is so big that its almost a large box height off the ground. I would rather have something lower that doesn't add so much height to the stack.

I imagine this is so that it can be moved over uneven terrain. the wheels on the bottom box are pretty large also, I assume for this reason.

OTOH, it would be reasonable to assume that someone using the dolly was using it on flat surfaces. . . .

I really do not like how there is about 1.5-2.5" of space all around, why isn't it the same profile as the large box, why does the platform need to take so much more space then all the boxes stacked. If you had 2 packout stacks with the roller side by side you can get them close where theres a tiny space between them, with the dollies front to back you would have 3"+ between them and side to side is prolly close to 5".

this is likely to stop you from bashing into things with it and scuffing up the boxes.

Then the foot brake sticks out even further than the dolly. Another thought on the foot brake, it forces you to always load/unload from the front. You could lock the casters, but it would be nice if the foot brake locked into position until you stepped on it again.

but you need to be in front to set the casters, right? and you need to at least reach around to unlock the boxes from the stack to take them off.

honestly, it is not really a foot break, it is more of a holder. is it sturdy enough to pull it by the holder? you could get a piece of string, and tie it on, and drag it along . . . .
 

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Finally bought the m12 soldering iron. I like it for situations that I can stand it up and basically use it as a 3rd hand. It’s big, bulky and out of balance when I need to hold it in my hand though. Maybe it’ll be something I get used to?
I was looking at one of those but from the one vid review I saw, it seems the heat they give off is pretty weak? I don't like waiting a minute or more for the wire to heat up and the solder to flow.
 

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I was looking at one of those but from the one vid review I saw, it seems the heat they give off is pretty weak? I don't like waiting a minute or more for the wire to heat up and the solder to flow.

The heat was fine. It gets up to temp much faster than my cheap corded iron. I was soldering 16 gauge wire onto led strip tape. The pads on the tape were hot enough to accept solder basically instantly. And the wire was sucking the solder up within a couple of seconds. It really had to much heat for this project, the lack of temp control is a big downside, especially when you consider the cost.
 

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2360 M18 True View flood light for $29.31. I don’t get sales tax back when I make returns to HD.

Can also pick up the Surge driver for a similar price.

https://www.toolnut.com/on-sale/milwaukee-free-m18-5-0ah-battery.html

Nobody pays $129 for a 5.0 battery, your math doesn’t make sense. I buy them new in package off eBay for $55 or so, which leaves the light costing $95. Also, I do get sales tax refunded at HD when returning part of a promo, even in Taxachusetts you should too.
 

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Nobody pays $129 for a 5.0 battery, your math doesn’t make sense. I buy them new in package off eBay for $55 or so, which leaves the light costing $95. Also, I do get sales tax refunded at HD when returning part of a promo, even in Taxachusetts you should too.

I believe he is implying he just returns it to HD to get the money back. So what ever they are selling them for.
 

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Lately I have been using M18 HO 6.0s as the go to battery. I feel like the new wacker got very little life out of the 6.0. Used to use 9.0s on the OPE but threw a 6.0 on there this weekend, I used to use 1 bar maybe 2 in rare cases, it went through 3 bars on the 6.0 and I wasn't even done using it.

So it made me think the new wacker has more power than the old one and thats why it seemed to use more battery juice. Also I have to look it up, the new wacker feels heavier than I remember the old one being.
 

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I believe he is implying he just returns it to HD to get the money back. So what ever they are selling them for.

Home Depot takes back batteries purchased from another retailer without receipt? I haven’t been returning much to Home Depot these days, but it would be a gift card instead of cash if they did. If he were purchasing the special buy at Home Depot and returning the battery it would be at a discounted return value.
 

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Lately I have been using M18 HO 6.0s as the go to battery. I feel like the new wacker got very little life out of the 6.0. Used to use 9.0s on the OPE but threw a 6.0 on there this weekend, I used to use 1 bar maybe 2 in rare cases, it went through 3 bars on the 6.0 and I wasn't even done using it.

So it made me think the new wacker has more power than the old one and thats why it seemed to use more battery juice. Also I have to look it up, the new wacker feels heavier than I remember the old one being.


The Gen2 seems to eat a decent amount more of battery. Whether it actually has more power, rather than loss of power due to the connection point, I don't know. I thought the Gen1 went forever on a 9, but can tell the Gen2 does not last as long.
 

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Lately I have been using M18 HO 6.0s as the go to battery. I feel like the new wacker got very little life out of the 6.0. Used to use 9.0s on the OPE but threw a 6.0 on there this weekend, I used to use 1 bar maybe 2 in rare cases, it went through 3 bars on the 6.0 and I wasn't even done using it.

So it made me think the new wacker has more power than the old one and thats why it seemed to use more battery juice. Also I have to look it up, the new wacker feels heavier than I remember the old one being.

Not sure about speed 1, but speed 2 spins @ 6200 rpms on gen2 vs. 5800 rpms on gen1. I suspect that the extra 400 rpms together with the (potential, speculating) increased drivetrain loss from the Quik Lok system are to blame.
 

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Vindication.... (maybe)
even has an exhaust brake, locking diff, an inverter for those Milwaukee chargers, and Bluetooth on the radio.. lol

So long as some ashole doesn't throw a wrench in this... which MAY be happening.. we shall see..
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And spotted this at HD while getting keys made.. never noticed this one before.
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I got 2 of Milwaukee's stainless 40 inch boxes. And also a M18 cold metal cutting saw. It makes quick work of cutting some corrugated roofing metal. No heat. Clean edges.
 

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Its not just the “base” for the tool chest? Right?
I dont imagine they’d put a S/S top on it if it were.


No, it's not the base chest to a stack. It's a rolling chest with work top. It's really nice box for sure, but with that drawer configuration it looks more like a $500 box to me.
 

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Anyone else have issues with the 2680 4 1/2” grinder getting extremely hot after a little bit of run time? I’ve read about the fact that it eats batteries like candy but I was using it to cut some stone and after about 1/4 cut it was too hot to even hold. I tried to blow it out with some compressed air but that didn’t seem to help. Is it worth it to just get the fuel version? This is the only tool that I’m pretty disappointed in.
 

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I have the Fuel grinder and found the thermal cutoff yesterday while surfacing some aluminum plate with a 3” wire cup brush. I probably ran it 6-7 minutes before it shut off. I was leaning into it a bit. I let it cool 5 minutes and did the backside (not as much effort) and it didn’t cut out again. It used one bar of a 9.0 battery. This is the longest I’ve used it in a single sitting, I thought the performance was acceptable.
 

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Nice. Do you live in a thick city?

Born in Brooklyn, grew up in Staten Island, live 20 min away in Jersey now. I went to California, Vermont, Pennsylvania, Virginia - and every time came home and told everybody we are stupid for living here.

Moving out and buying a house in Jersey was the first time i ever lived in a house that wasnt attached to another house.. and I STILL dont have a garage..

The only good thing - is i dont have to drive more than 2 miles to get to anything i need, and i dont have to be air lifted to hospital if i cut myself.
 
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I believe he is implying he just returns it to HD to get the money back. So what ever they are selling them for.

Correct. Sometimes you only get the sale price, but you always lose on the tax (which was taken into account on my math) without a receipt. Did it about a week ago with no problem.
 

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Soon you will be on the HD returns ban list and you wont even be able to return something even with a receipt. Not a black list you want to be on.

Correct. Sometimes you only get the sale price, but you always lose on the tax (which was taken into account on my math) without a receipt. Did it about a week ago with no problem.
 

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Haven't been following the thread much, but awhile back I posted on the two different styles of bump feed head for the original weed eater

Anyway I had a chance to use the redesigned head the other day and I'm torn - it feeds out line REALLY easily. I mean if you just graze the ground OR bump the SIDE of the head on a rock it feeds out.

Now, it was never a problem for me but if it became anymore liberal it would be.
 

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I have the Fuel grinder and found the thermal cutoff yesterday while surfacing some aluminum plate with a 3” wire cup brush. I probably ran it 6-7 minutes before it shut off. I was leaning into it a bit. I let it cool 5 minutes and did the backside (not as much effort) and it didn’t cut out again. It used one bar of a 9.0 battery. This is the longest I’ve used it in a single sitting, I thought the performance was acceptable.

Years ago I heard a shop owner say wire cup brushes are the "kiss of death" for grinders....granted, he was speaking of employees who use it like it ain't theirs...'cause it ain't!
 

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Buddy went looking for the M12 Surge kits that HD has in stock locally because he wanted to buy one. All the inventory from one store was stolen before it hit the floor LOLOLOL
 

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OT, on HD returns but anyone in the know. How do I get HD to remove my credit card off their systems. Posted this in another thread. Made 2 seperate purchases in the store. No ID nothing inputted in the register. Paid via CC. A week later, BOOM, I get an email asking them to review the product I purchased.

I went online to my HD account and confirmed - I do not have my CC saved on file in my account. Seem like regardless, they have saved my CC info somewhere ...and have attached it to my email

Same goes for another recent purchase.
 

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OT, on HD returns but anyone in the know. How do I get HD to remove my credit card off their systems. Posted this in another thread. Made 2 seperate purchases in the store. No ID nothing inputted in the register. Paid via CC. A week later, BOOM, I get an email asking them to review the product I purchased.

I went online to my HD account and confirmed - I do not have my CC saved on file in my account. Seem like regardless, they have saved my CC info somewhere ...and have attached it to my email

Same goes for another recent purchase.

is your home address in your account? your home phone number? the CC information HD got when it accepted your credit card probably had the home address.

with the address, I can get the phone number, and vice-a-versa. and don't forget that others are pooling your information. maybe the CC company "sold" your email address to HD.

we used to run a mail service that ignored everything in your email address after a dash ("-"). this way, you could give the address [email protected] to HD, and [email protected] to the cc company. then you knew who was sharing your information with whom. it also allowed you to sort your email easily into folders on your client.

there is such a propagation of information now, it is surprising that this doesn't happen more often. it is simply a manner of what a company is willing to pay for . . . . .
 

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He got the M12 Surge from another store and absolutely hates it.

Says tool by itself is heavier than the M18 Surge. It is longer than the M18 Surge. Seems to completely defeat the purpose of a M12 Surge. With an XC battery it barely has a smaller bottom profile. Plus he hates the new style clip started with M12 Gen 2 Fuel. Says yes the power is the same as the M18, but for someone in M12 & M18, I dont see why you would need both and why you would choose the M12 Surge over the M18. The only benefit I could see is with a compact M12 battery, but if it has the same power as the M18 how long will that compact battery last.

Edit - Looked up the specs.
M18 - 5" L x 2.38" W x 7.67" H and Weight 2.3lbs
M12 - 5.2" L x 2.2" W x 6.8" H and Weight is unknown

He was seriously considering returning it, if it didnt go on the company bill I think he would of returned it. He has 2 M18 Surges and has been hooked on it since I told him how great they were 2 years ago.

Buddy went looking for the M12 Surge kits that HD has in stock locally because he wanted to buy one. All the inventory from one store was stolen before it hit the floor LOLOLOL
 
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Looks like it slightly longer, but also slightly narrower and shorter. That’s pretty much a wash in my book. And a compact battery may allow you to get into places that an M18 battery won’t.I don’t have an M18 surge so I can’t really comment on how the weight compares. As far as battery life goes sure it will be less for a similar amp hour battery. Of course an m12 6.0 should offer more watt hours than an m18 3.0cp while maintaining a smaller increase in size and weight to the tool.

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say ditch the m18 for the M12. But it is now an option, especially for those of us primarily in the M12 system. I’m probably just shy of 20 M12 batteries, and have 2 M18 5.0 batteries. So I’m going to look at M12 first.
 

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While I love my M18 surge....I'm just as equally impressed with how tiny the Gen 3 M18 impact is. I dunno if Gen 4 will bring me the best of both aspects...
 

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OT, on HD returns but anyone in the know. How do I get HD to remove my credit card off their systems. Posted this in another thread. Made 2 seperate purchases in the store. No ID nothing inputted in the register. Paid via CC. A week later, BOOM, I get an email asking them to review the product I purchased.

I went online to my HD account and confirmed - I do not have my CC saved on file in my account. Seem like regardless, they have saved my CC info somewhere ...and have attached it to my email

Same goes for another recent purchase.

i still dont have an account with HD and i get this. i cant tell you how to remove it but i noticed it happened several years ago when i opted in for email receipts.
 
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