The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[dodge610]

Hung my new Husky cabinets in the garage today. To fit my 8' LED lights underneath, I had to space them 6 or 7inches apart to make the 3 cabinets span 8 feet. While making filler panels to hide the gap, an idea struck me:

Now that is some nice Fab work there

 

[jimreed2160]

Packout mod

So how about we go from Black300's professional looking fab work to my redneck hack job?

I keep a loaded packout in the spare bedroom so when a small inside task comes up I don't have to go scavenge tools from the workshop. The handy Kobalt socket set lived down below and was a pain to dig for. I tried to fit it inside a small packout case but there was about 1/4" of nogo. Unwilling to cut down the case or the packout box, I went to the scrap pile and made a platform for it.

Now it stays on top and is easy to get to. In addition, I have a small work tray available when I wheel the whole thing into action.

 

[Black300zx]

Now that is some nice Fab work there

Thanks! Although it's just a 1x8 piece of pre-primed, ready-to-paint MDF trim from HD with a few 1 3/4" holes popped in it and topcoated with the remnants of a rattlecan of black Krylon laquer

 

[kctyphoon]

Even a brushed drill will flash and shut down if you push it mainly from heat overload I think. My old M12 2410 was notorious for that drilling above it's means or trying to drive really long screws continuously.

Look at the price though. Circuits board aren't cheap. The one they put in my 2763 FUEL impact under warranty was way more than twice that price according to the invoice

You can buy often a new tool for under a $100 sometimes with a battery included

The entire electronics package for the Fuel (non one key) drill is Almost 3 times the price compared to that brushed model I posted, from the same source. About $150

Gotta mention though - the reason I’m sure for a big part of that, is cause with the brushless motor - the motor’s stator (no rotor) is included with the package, where the brushed version the motor is sold separately.

https://www.ereplacementparts.com/electronics-assembly-p-2573422.html

 

[sparky 1971]

Ive have NOT heard this about the m18 model.. if heard this about the m12 model - which I own.. maybe he’s got the models confused, or someone else that has the m18 can confirm. I was just watching a guy on YouTube drilling 1/2 holes with the thing no problem..

I mean, its not a hole hawg, or an impact (which they do make).. its a 3/8” drill.

No confusion. I have the M18. I get it out maybe three times a year and am disappointed almost every time. I also have both the M18 hole hawg and super hawg so there is no reason to even get the right angle out unless I really need to.

 

[mobiledynamics]

since we're talking hawgs right now...I got too many legacy bits too boot. So I am with a regular keyed chuck. Quick Lok on the Super Hawg - thoughts......

 

[sparky 1971]

Ya we go over this all the time. I also have the M12. The M18 is actually slightly more powerful and 2 speeds I think. Like you say their not Hole Hawgs but will easily spade a 1 inch hole thru 2x material. Key thing is not to use screw style bits and they are too aggressive and just pull into wood and cause tool cutout especially the M12 with electronic clutch.

For drilling metal I believe 3/8" bit is MAX. on BOTH

I was glad to have mine was able to drill and mount a 7 blade trailer connector to my tow hitch in a tight spot under my truck with one. Wasn't fast and of course good drill bits are essential to good performance.

I also have stubby spade bits so with those and the RA I can get places it be hard to do otherwise

Mine must be older and obsolete. It isn't a two speed. Maybe Milwaukee realized the produced a piece of trash and corrected the mistake. I googled 2601 and the picture looked the same as what I have, so I figured it was the same model.

 

[sparky 1971]

since we're talking hawgs right now...I got too many legacy bits too boot. So I am with a regular keyed chuck. Quick Lok on the Super Hawg - thoughts......

Both of mine have keyed chucks. I felt the quick lock would limit the type of bits I used. I don't believe there has been a time I couldn't have used a quick lock. That, and the fact that the chuck keys fall off quite often bouncing around in my van makes me wish I had quick locks and on both.

Edit: I would have got the quick lock on the super hawg, but they only had regular chucks in stock when I bought it. Didn't want to wait because I may have talked myself out of it.

 

[DFB]

Mine must be older and obsolete. It isn't a two speed. Maybe Milwaukee realized the produced a piece of trash and corrected the mistake. I googled 2601 and the picture looked the same as what I have, so I figured it was the same model.

You are correct. The M18 2615 RA is not 2 speed (I had to search out the specs as I wasn't sure of it when I posted earlier ). Just a higher maximum single mode variable speed than the M12 version. 1500 vs 800 RPM and 125 vs 100ftlbs of torque

 

[PelicanPines]

Ok... serious thing/question... I have a problem. My current "proteam" vacuum.. which is a Ridgid knockoff... is near death.

Should I buy their tool only or go for the toolbox shaped M18?

Ridgid tool only can be had for a tad less than $99.

It supposedly has about 80cfm of ****...

How happy will I be with the M18... ? How good does it ****... ?

 

[sparky 1971]

Ok... serious thing/question... I have a problem. My current "proteam" vacuum.. which is a Ridgid knockoff... is near death.

Should I buy their tool only or go for the toolbox shaped M18?

Ridgid tool only can be had for a tad less than $99.

It supposedly has about 80cfm of ****...

How happy will I be with the M18... ? How good does it ****... ?

The tool box vacuum isn't bad. It performs as well as the corded vacs of similar size. (one or two gallon).

 

[PelicanPines]

The tool box vacuum isn't bad. It performs as well as the corded vacs of similar size. (one or two gallon).

That's the thing... the Ridgid / Proteam really ***** well... I need great ****.

Thanks

 

[Bolster]

Regards the brushless/fuel vs brushed conversation I started by asking about the angle drill...are some of you actually avoiding brushless/fuel because you prefer brushed? Your thinking is that you'd prefer (potentially) less expensive maintenance?

 

[DFB]

Regards the brushless/fuel vs brushed conversation I started by asking about the angle drill...are some of you actually avoiding brushless/fuel because you prefer brushed? Your thinking is that you'd prefer (potentially) less expensive maintenance?

Brushless FUEL models are generally a superior tool offering.


KC had made the point that brushed tools have been and still are effective and workable tool choices and because of "less technology" so to speak for the most part are usually a less expensive option too.

Truly not everyone needs a FUEL tool.

But that's not really straight forward logic anymore as the more recent non-fuel brushless tool releases are added to the mix. Do you buy a brushed drill or pay more for a "brushless" version drill or impact driver with the same basic performance specs .

Can't quite say that choosing brushed over brushless as a maintenance point alone be my reasoning to make a model decision.

I'm plenty happy with plenty of brushed tools I own M18 drill, M12 impact wrench/driver. Maintenance wasn't really a factor though dollar value was back when they were purchased. And brushless non fuel wasn't even thought of as marketing gimmick yet


Now how Milwaukee gives us the offerings they do is anyone's best guess right?

I wonder sometimes...the M12 polisher/sander would seem to me to be tool that would benefit from being a FUEL. Or maybe just a brushless motor because of the continuous run time one may expect to use the tool.

Many people seem to want an OMT in FUEL brushless. I don't know what kind of performance increases that will provide? Obviously the tool doesn't really do much but vibrate and cut right? Seems to work ok as is. Maybe a brushless motor sure. Not like not needs a big torque increase that I know of.

Most all the RA tools are brushed which is interesting the impact drivers and drills both M18 and M12. They all could use a boost performance wise but they don't seem to do it. Maybe the right angle power transfer is a weak link for Milwaukee who knows.

I for one would really like a powerful but compact M18 RA FUEL DRILL to bridge the gap.

FUEL seems to the only real choice when choosing a Hackzall on either platform now. Though they are still brushed options nobody seems to buy them or doesn't talk about

Other stuff is brushless BUT also FUEL only. Like the M12 CutOff tool and the new M12 Die Grinders. Got no choice there. Performance is still only so so.

There's some other stuff where the decision is already been made too like nailers brushless FUEL only

 

[Bolster]

Brushless FUEL models...

Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful reply.

 

[kctyphoon]

Got the force logic cutters back that I lent out a few months ago.. lol
Gotta luv it...

 

[PelicanPines]

That will buff right out.

 

[Rusty67]

Every time I see one of those for sale I think, maybe I should buy one.... you never know when you might need it. Now that I've seen which has had a hot supper, I want one even more. Of course I can't justify that purchase as I'll probably never use it, but I still want it.

 

[z0r]

Brushless FUEL models are generally a superior tool offering.
Many people seem to want an OMT in FUEL brushless. I don't know what kind of performance increases that will provide? Obviously the tool doesn't really do much but vibrate and cut right? Seems to work ok as is. Maybe a brushless motor sure. Not like not needs a big torque increase that I know of.

oscillating tools benefit from greater swing angle, greater oscillating speeds, and greater "torque" or resistance to bogging down. Each of these will bring an increase in production rate, like inches of sanding per time, or whatever. swing angle is the most important.

I'd expect a fuel model to come with a bigger swing angle and the grunt to keep typical blades moving when pushed hard. The oscillation rate is high enough already for most things.

just to put a number on it, the m18 2626 multi tool has a swing angle of 3.4 degrees. my fairly low-end plug-in rockwell multitool has a swing angle of 5.0 degrees

 

[ChevyEFI]

Got a battery out of the deal!

 

[M635_Guy]

Got the force logic cutters back that I lent out a few months ago.. lol
Gotta luv it...

Dude...

I can't imagine bringing back a loaned tool in that condition...

 

[thetiler]

Got the force logic cutters back that I lent out a few months ago.. lol
Gotta luv it...

I would kill someone if they returned a tool looking like that.

 

[DFB]

Got the force logic cutters back that I lent out a few months ago.. lol
Gotta luv it...

Where the f**ks it been all this time in the open bed of a truck?

 

[RKA]

I'm going to go out on a limp and guess the cables they were cutting with that force logic cutter were buried in a swamp?

 

[kctyphoon]

Where the f**ks it been all this time in the open bed of a truck?

Manholes.... They just finished removing a few miles worth of old telephone cable. It's not like it's a "mine, I bought it tool" - it's something I got the company to buy - I'm just it's 'care taker'.. where they've been working is by the water - so all the mud and **** eventually finds its way into the manholes.. everything they've been using looks like that. But I was like "dude, u coulda at least wiped it down quick and gotten the heavy stuff off"..

I brought it home to clean up - cause I'll at least put some effort into it.. I know this crowd. If I leave it like that - it'll get shown no respect at all. At least it worked good. It ***** working in some of those holes. The only other real option is ratcheting cable cutters, and they're not easy to use on big cable..

It'll clean up.. it'll never look new again though.. lol. That's why I said Milwaukee should make a boot for this thing. Rubber clamshell even.

 

[Tbird22]

I would kill someone if they returned a tool looking like that.

Hey I’ve had plenty of times where just getting the tool back was a hassle. At least he got it back


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[kctyphoon]

I'm going to go out on a limp and guess the cables they were cutting with that force logic cutter were buried in a swamp?

I was only on that job a couple times. One hole, the mud was so deep I threw a 5 gallon bucket in upside-down (to step on) and by the time it hit the bottom the bucket was completely submerged and the mud was about 2" away from the top of my rubber boots that are 17" tall I think.. half those holes you're basically climbing and standing on whatever cables or splice cases are attached to the walls. Usually (where they were working) those holes are completely filled with water and need to be pumped out.. there is no way not to be covered in mud..

 

[Bighead38]

I use wd40 to wipe mine off, usually gets most of the stuff on the

 

[RKA]

I was only on that job a couple times. One hole, the mud was so deep I threw a 5 gallon bucket in upside-down (to step on) and by the time it hit the bottom the bucket was completely submerged and the mud was about 2" away from the top of my rubber boots that are 17" tall I think.. half those holes you're basically climbing and standing on whatever cables or splice cases are attached to the walls. Usually (where they were working) those holes are completely filled with water and need to be pumped out.. there is no way not to be covered in mud..

With all that said, I’m starting to think they DID clean that tool before they returned it! I gotta say, those blades look damn good considering what they have been through.

 

[kctyphoon]

With all that said, I’m starting to think they DID clean that tool before they returned it! I gotta say, those blades look damn good considering what they have been through.

They said it cut everything that fit in it.. I completely expected the thing to come back with the blades beaten up.. its only a matter of time before someone tries to cut they shouldn’t with the thing.

I’m trying to get these little cordless bolt cutters that Greenlee makes too. No Milwaukee option yet. I’m amazed they haven’t introduced one by now. They gotta have one in the works with the way they’ve been targeting lineman and utility work. I bought the small manual bolt cutters that Milwaukee makes a while back and they went right in the garbage.. they might work ok on small chain or padlocks - but for cutting metal strand - horrible. I mean, maybe I got a bad set - but it made me not even want to try the bigger ones.

 

[PelicanPines]

If you don't USE your tools... you won't have a reason to polish your tool.

Say it out loud.

 

[DFB]

If you don't USE your tools... you won't have a reason to polish your tool.

Say it out loud.

 

[kctyphoon]

Ill just put this here... if my new threads are gonna be deleted like that - then I will stop posting new info on stuff that OBVIOUSLY interests people. I’m getting a little tired of being singled out cause a handful of people complain.

 

[mobiledynamics]

por que ? Engrish ?

 

[kctyphoon]

por que ? Engrish ?

Apparently I’m not allowed to create a thread patting Kobalt on the back cause they actually achieved something - and came out with a cordless ratchet before dewalt has. If someone else had done it, I’m sure that would be fine. I’m sure SOME LITTLE FISHY was ‘upset’ that i said Kobalt came out with something before dewalt. Thread was up for about a minute - got responses - and was removed.

24v cordless, brushless ratchet.. not posting info links anymore.

Cable cutters are all cleaned up.. came out much better than i expected.

 

[pbon]

HF has a cordless ratchet. I’d like to see a comparison with Milwaukee.

 

[M635_Guy]

HF has a cordless ratchet. I’d like to see a comparison with Milwaukee.

Seems like AvE did one.

 

[kctyphoon]

The koblat model is similar to the IR style, with the bottom of the slide pack facing the same way as the anvil. The head looks similar to the earthquake model. The body is long though. I dunno it's thats good or bad.. my mind says smaller is better, but the added leverage/reach gotta be nice at times I bet.

 

[Bighead38]

What did you use to clean it up kc?

 

[Farmall450]

Apparently I’m not allowed to create a thread patting Kobalt on the back cause they actually achieved something - and came out with a cordless ratchet before dewalt has. If someone else had done it, I’m sure that would be fine. I’m sure SOME LITTLE FISHY was ‘upset’ that i said Kobalt came out with something before dewalt. Thread was up for about a minute - got responses - and was removed.

24v cordless, brushless ratchet.. not posting info links anymore.

Cable cutters are all cleaned up.. came out much better than i expected.

Darn, I didn't even get a chance to comment on it poking fun at HF beating Milwaukee to a cordless push first

Edit: Honestly, tho, there must have been some intent or misinterpretation more than simply showing off new tools, b/c that's what the forum is about. Also, I'm rather surprised Kobalt is making anything w/ Lowe's taking Craftsman to the extreme. I hear their hackzall is pretty good.