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Lone_Wolf

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Is generally statment correct:"If you order through nepros.net there will be no import duty!"?
I am in contact with Mr. Hiroshi Iki ([email protected]) ad order will be set in week or two. Order will be around 600 $ with shipping in to the US. My friend will pick it up in the US. What is your opinion and experience, will it be any import taxes and how much? Is better to split order in two?
 
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I had to pay import duty fees about a week after I received my order. I wasn't happy, but it was expected! I received three packages. UPS charged me $125 for the 3 packages that weighed over 145 lb. in total.
 

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I had to pay import duty fees about a week after I received my order. I wasn't happy, but it was expected! I received three packages. UPS charged me $125 for the 3 packages that weighed over 145 lb. in total.

What was the total $$$ for the tools?
 

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I had to pay import duty fees about a week after I received my order. I wasn't happy, but it was expected! I received three packages. UPS charged me $125 for the 3 packages that weighed over 145 lb. in total.

I was charged $279.23 in duties on one of my orders. I called UPS and disputed the amount. I was transferred to about 5 different people until I talked to the person with authority to re-examine the duty charges. She reduced the amount to $61.00 and they sent me a refund check in about 2 weeks. Total cost on that order was about $3500.
 

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The total order was something like $2800. I called UPS and got a new number to call. I tried calling that number a few times, yet I was always put on hold or I had to wait on the line!
 

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Just got a few Nepros tools the other day. I was influenced to make my purchase largely based on what I've read on this post and would like to share my opinions and experience.

First off, the company has great customer service. I received very prompt replies from 2 representatives of the company and all my other interactions were with these people. It's somewhat like having your own tool guy. I'm pretty confident that if I emailed the same person again, they would do everything they could to help me. I don't think they work over the weekend as I sent them a reply over the weekend and didn't get a reply back until Monday morning Japan time.

They were out of one of my items and told me it would be in stock soon and they would ship it all together. My tool girl emailed me and told me they came in stock and shipped that day. 3 days later I pick them up from fedex. Pretty impressed. Also regarding shipping times, I inquired about warranty times for broken tools. She told me about 2 weeks total time AFTER they receive your tool until the new one is at your door.

My first impression is that these tools are quite nice and there's a lot of care taken in making them. I noticed every tool has a small rubber ring around the bottom. I'm not sure how that will hold up over time but it is nice to have a little extra grip when everything is covered in grease. As people have mentioned I really like the socket rails. The extensions are just extensions. The ratchet....is not that impressive. It's a flex head and looks like it will hold it's firmness over time based on the overall quality of the tool. It's very comfortable and has a nice heft to it. The ratcheting mechanism is a 36 tooth and feels really solid internally. It's certainly a different beast compared to a snap-on fx80, certainly not as smooth but it's kind of fun to use.

The u joint kind of disappointed me, but i think it could be useful. It doesn't provide much of an angle, somewhat limited movement. But it seems smooth, I almost think it could work well if you put a few together.

I haven't used them much. I don't think I'd suggest them for shop work, since if you break it you can't just have your tool guy bring you another. They're also really nice and I'd almost feel bad throwing them around the shop and dropping them. I think I'll save these for projects at home where I can take a little better care of them.
just my .02

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I want to add an update after some further inspection. Other than as a novelty item, I would not suggest the nepros ratchet for someone looking for functional tools. Don't get me wrong, it is a functional tool, but I really don't think it's that much better than tools you could get for half the price. Sockets are awesome, I would suggest them any day for someone looking for higher end pieces, but the ratchet is just too ordinary to justify the price point in my opinion. Your money would be better spent with another company.
 

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For anyone that has picked up a set of the wood handled screwdrivers,what is the tip quality like as far as durability/fit? I really like the look of them but I detest a screwdriver with a poor fit,if that's the case ill just pick up a set of felo's ..,but I really want those nepros wood handled drivers...lol.
 

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The wood handled Nepros are my favorites, and I have a lot of screwdrivers. The fit is excellent.

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I just received my Nepros wood screwdrivers a few days ago. They are works of art. Very comfortable in the hand and the tips are excellent in the very limited use I've had with them to date.
 

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The u joint kind of disappointed me, but i think it could be useful. It doesn't provide much of an angle, somewhat limited movement. But it seems smooth, I almost think it could work well if you put a few together.

KTC intentionally limited the range of motion after their research determined that a universal joint sees its most use within a low swing angle. By limiting the range of motion, they were able to design the joints to flex within the same axis, making the universal joint operate more smoothly, shorter in length, and more durable. It's also more user-friendly as it'll limit the 'fastener slip' that is often common on full-range universal joints, or the floppy-jointed universal that we often fix by wrapping electrical tape.



I want to add an update after some further inspection. Other than as a novelty item, I would not suggest the nepros ratchet for someone looking for functional tools. Don't get me wrong, it is a functional tool, but I really don't think it's that much better than tools you could get for half the price. Sockets are awesome, I would suggest them any day for someone looking for higher end pieces, but the ratchet is just too ordinary to justify the price point in my opinion. Your money would be better spent with another company.

Keep in mind that the Nepros line, and that ratchet, was developed back in 1995. At the time, a 36-tooth was probably a mechanics' standard ratchet. When KTC launched Nepros, they wanted to create tools that reflected what Snap-on, "The King of Tools", made. As a standard ratchet that Snap-on had for decades, they took that 36-tooth, batman pawl'ed, pear-head ratchet to their own drawing board. That ratchet was, in a way, KTC's interpretation or answer to how they would've done it. This mechanism, from what I've felt, is a bit clunky by design, whether it's a Snap-on, Hazet, etc. Although, Nepros does have the 72-tooth roundhead that's a smooth operator, much smoother than their pearhead.

I don't disagree with your feelings completely, but I still think it's a good price for the level of attention to details and the fine workmanship that you receive. The surface finish, along with the chrome treatment is second to none. The hollow handle, the hard composite plastic that's sprung to maintain tension on the head and thereby keeping the head from becoming floppy--those are features that aren't found anywhere else.

Btw, KTC has been seeing and listening to users, and they know that times have changed with regards to the trend in ratchets. Yes, they have been in the development of a high toothcount ratchet for the Nepros brand. One source told me that it's going to be a 90-tooth ratchet. I'll be keeping my eyes open for that. :)
 
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The Nepros screwdrivers are developed by KTC's own standards; not to JIS/DIN/ISO standards. What that means is their standards are above and beyond what is mandated by those aforementioned standards. So, you can be rest assured that what you're getting is a result of KTC's own research and development that isn't limited to any global standard.
 

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90 tooth? I want one!

Did Neptos cut back their line a bit? I can't find their adjustable wrench (jk47's profile pic) anymore.. It would be a shame if it were gone. Such a beautiful tool.
 

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90 tooth? I want one!

Did Neptos cut back their line a bit? I can't find their adjustable wrench (jk47's profile pic) anymore.. It would be a shame if it were gone. Such a beautiful tool.

It is still available. I just got one! They removed it from the website because it was back ordered. But you can still get them. If you email them they will give you a quote on it. I ordered a whole bunch of stuff and had the whole order delayed about a month because they were waiting for that wrench. So if you're patient, you can still get it.
 

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So as I stated in the previous post, I ordered a whole bunch of Nepros stuff. And this week it finally arrived. These are my first Nepros tools. All I can say is WOW! There is no other tool company on Earth with this level of attention to detail and quality control. When they say 'mirror' they aren't kidding. I really focused on sockets this order, but I got a smattering of wrenches, screwdrivers, and KTC stuff as well.


Here's the boxes as they arrived - 88.2 pounds of Nepros & KTC goodness.

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Here's the Nepros items removed from the shipping boxes.

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And unpacking further...sockets...

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...driver tools and extensions...

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...some wrench sets...

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...wood-handles screwdrivers. These things are a work of art. They are as close to tool jewelry as you can get. They feel great in the hand, and fit screws perfectly.

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I decided also to pick up the colored-handled ratchet set. This will probably be more of a display item than a workhorse, but it was just too cool to pass up!

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And there's more...
 

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Here are the KTC items I ordered. KTC has a lot of cool tools. I got a T-handle 3/8" driver, 3 sets of Profit thin profile wrenches, an auto-punch, a ratcheting screwdriver, a couple unique stubby screwdrivers with long blades, a couple screwdrivers with bulb ends (great idea!), a couple sets of regular screwdrivers, a handy spinning lug wrench, a couple ball joints, some sockets to fill in the gaps in the Nepros sets, a set of long e-Torx wrenches, and adjustable wrenches.

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The adjustable wrenches. The KTC versions aren't as blingy as the Nepros, but they're still pretty nice. The adjustment of all of them is buttery smooth.

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And speaking of Nepros, I am even impressed with how Nepros tools are packaged. Here's a socket set:

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And inside...

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I inadvertently purchased a couple sockets that were the same as the Nepros ones I had in sets (I meant to order the deeps versions but ordered the short ones instead). But that did allow me to compare identical sockets from the Nepros line and the KTC standard line.

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The KTC sockets have a satin finish, and seem to have slightly thicker walls.

I also ordered a combo wrench in Nepros and KTC flavors for comparison...

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And finally, a comparison of deep sockets. Those KTC sockets are deeeeeep.

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Wow, no joke. That's one seriously deep socket. :D



RE: the rest of this thread, you just can't help but be seriously impressed with the stuff Japan is putting out...
 

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One other neat little thing I got was some tool-box bling.This Nepros emblem is pretty neat - much better than I thought it was going to be. It is solid aluminum and much heavier than I anticipated. It's going to go on my new Extreme Pro toolbox. Not a big deal, but fun to have.

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I also got other colored sets of rubber rings to differentiate the SAE sockets from the metric ones. I put the red rings on the SAE set (you can see them in my previous picture of all the sockets, but I can't remember why I bought a blue set. Maybe for the 3/8" ratchets?? :dunno:
 
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Jesus Christ, what a beauty, nice dining room to! One thing that cool me down that I will recieve part of my order next week. But in same time I am nervous and can"t wait!
 

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FancyLearnin Good to hear that Nepros are still shipping the Adjustable Wrench. I have a whole bunch of Nepros gear including the Adjustable Wrench which is a thing of beauty. If you do not have a set of the 6 point ring wrenches/spanners, and a set of 12 point Long ring wrenches/spanners you should really get them. They are fantastic pieces. Possibly my favorite?
 

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If you do not have a set of the 6 point ring wrenches/spanners, and a set of 12 point Long ring wrenches/spanners you should really get them. They are fantastic pieces. Possibly my favorite?

You mean these?

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I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but they sure look awesome. I like the design element of the hex shape being offset from the beam so you can just flip the wrench over and essentially cut the angle of engagement in half.
 

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You mean these?

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Yes and No. They were half of my recommendation. The other half is the Extra Long 12pt Wrenches (NTM11L06). They have come in handy more than once. With both the 6pt and 12pt wrenches I purchased additional wrenches that were not in the set. For some reason the Italian engines I play with have a lot of 15mm bolts!
 

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Got my trial order in today. Placed the order on May 6th Sunday (Their Monday). Arrived at my door May 9th. Incredible. I can't get things two states away that fast.
 

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Got my trial order in today. Placed the order on May 6th Sunday (Their Monday). Arrived at my door May 9th. Incredible. I can't get things two states away that fast.

Showus the pics:bowdown:
 

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So, my long expected order is now in my hands. To get Nepros tools in Croatia is a bit complicated job. But it worthed any cent!Package travelled across 3 continets and 10 countries to get here! Japan, Alaska, Memphis, Sweden, Norwey, Denmark, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria... Pictures really can't present real value of these pieces. The look, the feel when you take it in the hand. On first look you see that is something special, on the second closer look you see that is more tan tool!
My Nepros collection is modest in comparison to others, but I like it very much. I already did some repair with it and it is great to work with it!

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