The "pedestrian" garage

[MoparTrucks]

Ha no not too much info, I always find it interesting to hear about others situations. Our youngest at UNC gets his Bachelors after this semester but he has now informed us he is going on for his Masters .

After reading this thread I went back to my shop and did a reevaluation. One of my issues was that as a traditional pole barn with metal siding the interior was cold looking and "tinny" if that makes any sense. I ended up using 2x4s vertically with scrap 2x4s across the horizontal purlins as a frame and then screwed 1/2" plywood to those and trimmed it out and it really looks good. I have only done 2 sections but it definitely changed the ambiance and reduced noise and the tinny feel.

I just like the look of wood and though I dont have the patience to do what you did, I sure like the look!

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

Well TB66, since it's too windy to do any logging for firewood, you might want to get the dog into the truck, drive down to Lynnwood and check this out.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/hsh/3310119637.html

I'm always willing to help other people spend their money! lol

 

[tinbender 66]

Ha no not too much info, I always find it interesting to hear about others situations. Our youngest at UNC gets his Bachelors after this semester but he has now informed us he is going on for his Masters .

After reading this thread I went back to my shop and did a reevaluation. One of my issues was that as a traditional pole barn with metal siding the interior was cold looking and "tinny" if that makes any sense. I ended up using 2x4s vertically with scrap 2x4s across the horizontal purlins as a frame and then screwed 1/2" plywood to those and trimmed it out and it really looks good. I have only done 2 sections but it definitely changed the ambiance and reduced noise and the tinny feel.

I just like the look of wood and though I dont have the patience to do what you did, I sure like the look!

I can't remember which thread, but someone on here used plywood with battens at the joints and stained it with some sort of clear. Looked awesome!

 

[tinbender 66]

Well TB66, since it's too windy to do any logging for firewood, you might want to get the dog into the truck, drive down to Lynnwood and check this out.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/hsh/3310119637.html

I'm always willing to help other people spend their money! lol

Man oh man, that thing is awesome looking! The front almost matches Craftsman bronze! Probably not the most efficient stove but in the garage I wouldn't care that much.

Unfortunately with my wife having just lost her job "play" money is nonexistent right now.

 

[MoparTrucks]

I can't remember which thread, but someone on here used plywood with battens at the joints and stained it with some sort of clear. Looked awesome!

I will have to search for it thanks. But have you seen the price of plywood lately? Even here in the Ozarks its almost $20.00 a 4x8 sheet for the cheap stuff.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

TB66, I thought you might like it, especially since you are able to gather firewood. Sorry about your wife's job situation; trust me, I really do know how you two feel. Any hope of positions in B'ham? I can't recall the drive time there but I seem to recall a big hospital there. Former BIL was/is (?) the director for visiting nurses in the region and had something to do with the prison medical facilities. I wish her well in her job search!

 

[bcs1175]

hey tb66, sorry about your wife's lack of job. i definitely understand since i haven't had a decent job in a couple years. Showed your build and a few other inspirational builds to my dad who has had his 30'x60' shop for a decade now and never really finished the interior and by seeing some amazing shops here on jg i think we are going to get some work accomplished. Anyway I just wanted to thank you for the inspiration.

 

[tinbender 66]

hey tb66, sorry about your wife's lack of job. i definitely understand since i haven't had a decent job in a couple years. Showed your build and a few other inspirational builds to my dad who has had his 30'x60' shop for a decade now and never really finished the interior and by seeing some amazing shops here on jg i think we are going to get some work accomplished. Anyway I just wanted to thank you for the inspiration.

Thanks bcs...........If it wasn't for GJ my garage would probably just be a big box
too.

 

[tinbender 66]

We've been cutting some firewood on the neighbors property. Mostly dry already down stuff. Got about a cord so far. I had two cords of nice dry fir and alder delivered yesterday for a supplement.

In this picture you can see the leaning hemlock that's been that way for a couple of years. Hard to see in the pic but it's hung up on the back side of that big fir tree and leaning away from what you see here. I didn't feel comfortable cutting it down myself so I asked my firewood guy about it. When he delivered my wood he brought his helper with him and they took it and the fir
down for me. These two guys are both in their early 70's but they worked in the woods their whole lives.

He cut the hemlock most of the way first. Cut it in such a way that it rotated about 30° and rode the fir down perfectly.

The hemlock was starting to rot but it was solid after about the first ten feet.

The fir tree was close to three feet in diameter at the base. I paced it off and figure it was about 130' tall. Lots of firewood for next year with these two. Gonna take a little work to get it bucked up and split. I've been buying firewood from these guys for years and they would not take any money for doing this job. Nice guys and funny as hell.

Couple of parting shots:

My neighbor Ben with my wife. He's 86 years old. Sharp as a tack but getting pretty rickety physically. He's done a lot for me in the last 20 years so I do a lot for him now. His wife is awesome too.

A view up my driveway. The south property line is where that private property sign is. The house and garage are about 600' back from here. Left side is mine and the right side is Ben's.

 

[fergus]

Wow...that's a nice view TB! I wouldn't want to cut that tree down either.

 

[dave67fd]

Paul,
Sorry to have missed several of your posts along the way. Been a busy summer for me. Nice to see your keeping yourself quite busy with the tool restoration. Fantastic job on the press and saw. It's also nice to see that you have an exceptional relationship with your neighbor.

 

[Wingnut65]

Man, Paul, I am exhausted just thinking about cutting down and chopping up a 130' tall tree. I haven't really needed much firewood for my gas fireplace, so I guess I will let you have the fun.

Glad to hear your tree cutters are having fun at the work they do.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

TinBender, I know you said money is tight right now, but with all that firewood you now have, I had to do a quick CL check. Arlington address and $100.00 ...

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/hsh/3329591790.html

 

[ODIS]

Good to read that you and your wife are taking care of your aging neighbors. It is a good way to "pay it forward" and hope that the next neighbor will take care of you.

Lots of fire wood! Nice! It seems it is all very close to you. How lucky! Won't be many more days and the wood will be keeping you warm on it's 4th or 5th time..... 1) cut tree down and buck, 2) Split, 3) Haul to storage location, 4) Stack, 5) Haul into house/garage to burn. Love my wood burning stove.

Take care.

Ody.

 

[Nighttrain]

Your living the life! That's a beautiful piece of land you have there. Glad to see you have a great neighbor. I am sure he and his family enjoy having you there if they ever need someone.

 

[tinbender 66]

Wow...that's a nice view TB! I wouldn't want to cut that tree down either.

Thankks fergus, haha yeah I ain't no logger!!

Paul,
Sorry to have missed several of your posts along the way. Been a busy summer for me. Nice to see your keeping yourself quite busy with the tool restoration. Fantastic job on the press and saw. It's also nice to see that you have an exceptional relationship with your neighbor.

Hey Dave! Nice to see ya! Thanks. I feel fortunate to have neighbors that I like!

Man, Paul, I am exhausted just thinking about cutting down and chopping up a 130' tall tree. I haven't really needed much firewood for my gas fireplace, so I guess I will let you have the fun.

Glad to hear your tree cutters are having fun at the work they do.

Gee thanks Jeff! I can use the exercise. I guess.

TinBender, I know you said money is tight right now, but with all that firewood you now have, I had to do a quick CL check. Arlington address and $100.00 ...

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/hsh/3329591790.html

Thanks Omph, I just might check that one out.

Good to read that you and your wife are taking care of your aging neighbors. It is a good way to "pay it forward" and hope that the next neighbor will take care of you.

Lots of fire wood! Nice! It seems it is all very close to you. How lucky! Won't be many more days and the wood will be keeping you warm on it's 4th or 5th time..... 1) cut tree down and buck, 2) Split, 3) Haul to storage location, 4) Stack, 5) Haul into house/garage to burn. Love my wood burning stove.

Take care.

Ody.

Thanks Ody, I might need someone to take care of me after cutting those trees up! I keep telling myself that stuff like that is good for me haha.

I think I can buck it, then roll it out into that little clearing to split and load it for the short trip up to the house. That clearing is maintained as it is a designated turn around for emergency equipment. Fun. Kinda like your rocks lol.

Your living the life! That's a beautiful piece of land you have there. Glad to see you have a great neighbor. I am sure he and his family enjoy having you there if they ever need someone.

Thanks Nighttrain! They are great neighbors. I think they have me on speed dial but that's perfectly ok.

I think about you every time I stumble across the three lights I haven't made use of yet.

 

[shopnut]

You sure do grow them trees tall out the there, TB_66. I always find it interesting to see a good lumberjack fell a tree exactly where they want it. (Now if I could just learn something from them one of these years, I would be much better off )

 

[redintex]

TB66 - sorry to hear about your wife's job - sending positive thoughts your direction. I hope she finds a job soon.

Y'all are doing a great thing looking after your neighbors. A lot of people simply don't do that anymore. Definitely good karma...

redintex

 

[KF5LCH]

TB, everything is looking great. Just stopped by to say hello.

Hope you guys are doing good.

 

[tinbender 66]

You sure do grow them trees tall out the there, TB_66. I always find it interesting to see a good lumberjack fell a tree exactly where they want it. (Now if I could just learn something from them one of these years, I would be much better off )

We've got some bigguns alright. There are ancient stumps on the property that are 4' to 5' in diameter. I wish those were still trees! As for cutting the big ones down, I'll leave that to the experts!

TB66 - sorry to hear about your wife's job - sending positive thoughts your direction. I hope she finds a job soon.

Y'all are doing a great thing looking after your neighbors. A lot of people simply don't do that anymore. Definitely good karma...

redintex

Thanks for the thoughts redintex. History tells me that it'll all work out.

TB, everything is looking great. Just stopped by to say hello.

Hope you guys are doing good.

Thanks for stopping by KF5LCH! We're doing ok, thanks for asking.

 

[Red Leader]

Then..........this past Friday I sold my old Makita bench saw for $80 and picked up this for yesterday $60.

Out with the "old",


In with the "new,

Or out with the "old", in with the "ancient"

Heehee

 

[jerseywild]

Nice looking shop, looks like you picked up some good deals on craigslist. I just moved to WA for NJ this year. I am a little North of you in Lynden. Still getting used to the left coast.

 

[tinbender 66]

Nice looking shop, looks like you picked up some good deals on craigslist. I just moved to WA for NJ this year. I am a little North of you in Lynden. Still getting used to the left coast.

Thanks jerseywild, welcome to the left side! I'm only about an hour down the road. I have fond memories of NJ 'cuz that's where I spent my last three days in the Army as I processed out (Ft. Dix).

Welcome to the fray.......

 

[tinbender 66]

I'm looking for some creative advice here. The first pic I've posted before. I had the desk in there 'cuz I thought it might be cool to have a shop desk. Truth is, I never used it and it just took up space. So out it came.

That allowed me to swipe those two 4' lights and move them out into the shop. I hung them low in between the garage doors so I could have a little light when the doors are open.

That leaves me with this little space. It's 6' wide and 5' deep. About 8'8" to the bottom of the storage access door. I've thought about doing shelves on all three sides with a platform at the bottom of the "attic" door. Might make it easier to get stuff up into storage. I can't make up my mind so I'm calling upon the resident geniuses here for ideas. Let 'em fly!!

 

[tinbender 66]

This almost showed in my pic of my lights so here it is. Header art!

 

[IGO2XS]

you can't go wrong with adding shelves. maybe you could even incorporate one of those file cabinets in there to free up some wall space. I found it handy to organize all of my cordless tools and fasteners in one area. Just an idea.

 

[shopnut]

Hey TB, one of those header sets doesn't fit a '70 Chevelle, does it?

Oops - I think quite a while ago I said I would come up with some fancy scmancy lift to get you up in the attic. Sorry, I forgot .

Here's a simple idea to get the discussion started. The blue shelves on the side walls would be the full depth of the nook (5'). The angled shelves on the right would be sturdy enough to also serve as the "ladder" to reach the attic. It will be up to you to keep the "treads" clear of clutter . I could see longer items being stored on the shelves making up the ladder.

The purple shelves would just be shallow ones along the back wall. It's likely you could go higher with the shelves as long as you can still reach them with the built-in ladder. And don't forget a railing for the ladder - it must be safe too.



Nothing whiz-bang here, but you gotta start somewhere. There's many things you could do with that space.

 

[Wingnut65]

I was going to suggest it was a perfect spot for an elevator, but shopnut's stair shelves could store more stuff than an elevator could.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

Not to be a nag, but wouldn't that be the 'ideal' spot for a wood stove and stack'o'fuel?

You could even add a vent with a blower to keep the restroom nice and toasty; plus it would vent those 'noxious fumes'!

 

[turbowoodworker]

Hey Tinbender. That's the first time I noticed the DeHavilland Beaver model. Very cool, great airplane, the Harley of bush planes.

 

[tinbender 66]

you can't go wrong with adding shelves. maybe you could even incorporate one of those file cabinets in there to free up some wall space. I found it handy to organize all of my cordless tools and fasteners in one area. Just an idea.

I agree. That big lateral file has all my corded power tools in it now. I like the shelf idea because I'm about to disassemble a car and I want a dedicated space to keep all the bagged and tagged stuff. Thanks for stopping in!!

I was going to suggest it was a perfect spot for an elevator, but shopnut's stair shelves could store more stuff than an elevator could.

Oh sure, a copper elevator I suppose!!

Not to be a nag, but wouldn't that be the 'ideal' spot for a wood stove and stack'o'fuel?

You could even add a vent with a blower to keep the restroom nice and toasty; plus it would vent those 'noxious fumes'!

Not a bad idea but I'm leaning pretty far away from the wood heat idea at the moment. That could change tomorrow, so who knows?

 

[Red Leader]

Copper elevator huh? Kinda reminds me of something else kinda familiar...


Wait...wait...can't quite recall...all I remember was that it HAD to be made.



Hee hee

 

[tinbender 66]

Hey TB, one of those header sets doesn't fit a '70 Chevelle, does it?

Oops - I think quite a while ago I said I would come up with some fancy scmancy lift to get you up in the attic. Sorry, I forgot .

Here's a simple idea to get the discussion started. The blue shelves on the side walls would be the full depth of the nook (5'). The angled shelves on the right would be sturdy enough to also serve as the "ladder" to reach the attic. It will be up to you to keep the "treads" clear of clutter . I could see longer items being stored on the shelves making up the ladder.

The purple shelves would just be shallow ones along the back wall. It's likely you could go higher with the shelves as long as you can still reach them with the built-in ladder. And don't forget a railing for the ladder - it must be safe too.



Nothing whiz-bang here, but you gotta start somewhere. There's many things you could do with that space.

Thanks shopnut! That shelf/ladder concept has got me thinkin'. I've been thinking of all sorts of convoluted ways to have an integral ladder but that one never occurred to me. I guess I'm not very good at that KISS principle stuff. I'm sure what I'll do will be a variation on your ideas. Thanks for the snazzy drawing too!!

 

[tinbender 66]

Hey Tinbender. That's the first time I noticed the DeHavilland Beaver model. Very cool, great airplane, the Harley of bush planes.

I've had that Beaver for a looong time. They used to sell them at Kenmore Air Harbor. They still might.

My cousin has been flying Beavers in Alaska for about 30 years. I think he has over 25K Alaska hours. I was up in Kodiak for a job when he was flying there. I could have gone for a ride with him but I just had to go with his boss in a Beech 18. Long story, but that was the wildest airplane ride I've ever been on!! Getting off the ground in a 35mph crosswind was an adventure to say the least!

 

[MoparTrucks]

Just out of curiosity, why didnt you ever use your desk, was it because you already had an office in your shop? I just picked up a free military surplus heavy steel desk that was sitting along side the road with a "free" sign on it and am in the process of cleaning it up and painting it. Space is tight in my shop but I am thinking it will be nice to put my shop computer on and as a place to sit and study the shop manuals as I am working on a project. Just asking as I am interested in your experience as someone who has already been down that road....i.e., is the space allocation worh it?

 

[tinbender 66]

Just out of curiosity, why didnt you ever use your desk, was it because you already had an office in your shop? I just picked up a free military surplus heavy steel desk that was sitting along side the road with a "free" sign on it and am in the process of cleaning it up and painting it. Space is tight in my shop but I am thinking it will be nice to put my shop computer on and as a place to sit and study the shop manuals as I am working on a project. Just asking as I am interested in your experience as someone who has already been down that road....i.e., is the space allocation worh it?

I found that I usually just sit on my stool at the work bench if I need to "study" something. Or I just go in the office since it's warm in there. No heat in the shop yet. I didn't toss that desk, I moved it into the office. So now I have two big ole metal desks in there. It works out though. The existing one is pretty much taken up with the computer, printer etc. Now, if I want to tinker with something small or work on a model I have a nice warm place to do it and a TV to boot!

So, I guess for me the space allocation was not worth it. I'll probably be changing a few things now that I've lived with the place for a while.

 

[csp]

I say let the space evolve. You'll find a real use for it instead of making one up.

 

[Nighttrain]

kegerator would fit in there with plent of space left for a hot dog bar!

 

[Shoottx]

I found that I usually just sit on my stool at the work bench if I need to "study" something. Or I just go in the office since it's warm in there. No heat in the shop yet. I didn't toss that desk, I moved it into the office. So now I have two big ole metal desks in there. It works out though. The existing one is pretty much taken up with the computer, printer etc. Now, if I want to tinker with something small or work on a model I have a nice warm place to do it and a TV to boot!

So, I guess for me the space allocation was not worth it. I'll probably be changing a few things now that I've lived with the place for a while.

Yes sitting at the bench or desk is a much preferred activity to standing on them or ......oh never mind!

 

[tinbender 66]

I say let the space evolve. You'll find a real use for it instead of making one up.

That's some good advice right there and probably pretty close to what will happen.

kegerator would fit in there with plent of space left for a hot dog bar!

Heh heh............

Yes sitting at the bench or desk is a much preferred activity to standing on them or ......oh never mind!

I guess it's gonna take a while to live that one down.