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Still rolling.... Concrete guys dug foundation yesterday and are working on the rebar now.... Just found out that I needed a termite pretreatment before they can put down the vapor barrier. Yes, need a termite pretreatment even for a metal building. So that's a surprise $1k added tonthe project. Luckily I found someone wo can do it this afternoon, so it won't hold up progress. I didn't get the OK to call for an inspection until too late to get on the schedule for Thursday. Was hoping to pour concrete on Friday, looks like we have to wait for Sunday.
 

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Passed foundation inspection today. The crew has another couple hours to finish up the rebar. They thought they were done yesterday at lunch, but they forgot i was getting #4 rebar 18" on center each way... "Oh, thought we were just doing fiber".

Good thing I double checked the anchor bolt placement too. There was 1 odball one that was off by 2".
 

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107 yards done. Long day, but good to have made major progress on the build.
 

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I had a Variance hearing with the County board this weeks. The Variance was to have the setback reduced from 40 to 20' on the side yard to make it easy to back trailers into the building. I had 3 neighbors show up... While the meeting was strictly about weather or not to grant the 20' variance, the neighbors somehow thought they were going to keep me from building my shop... I wish I recorded it so that I had a record of all the complaints about what "might happen" if I build a shop.

"No one needs a 4,000 sq ft shop"
"He might start storing dump trucks on the property"
"He could be running a race team out of there."
"It could bring increased traffic to the neighborhood"
"We all paid for the road 50 years ago when we moved in, we don't need someone to come in and tear it up with heavy equipment"
"Previous owners had beer and drug parties on the property"

It went on and on. No one had a good reason why the setback variance shouldn't be allowed, so it passed.

Though I didn't have to, I addressed the neighbors concerns that my intent was for personal use. They will be pissed when they hear my Corvette, but they really should have went together an bought the property before I did if they were so concerned about what might happen.


So, with the variance passed, I have the green light to continue with the planned configuration of the building. I'm about a week away from ordering, just have to hammer out the final details.

I have someone coming to take down the current 30x40 building this weekend. Then I will remove the old slab, and begin the dirt work for the new building... hopefully that is done by the end of the month and maybe the concrete will be done in October/ early Nov.

Nice neighbors. Bet they forget that when they need a brake job.
 
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Nice neighbors. Bet they forget that when they need a brake job.

Funny you brought that up. One of those neighbors actually walked over today and apologized... Said he had me figured all wrong and was happy with what I have done so far to clean the place up. (It will be the nicest property in the neighborhood when I am done with it, but that's not really saying much)) I won't hold a grudge, and understand how people who've lived there for 25+ years may be afraid of change.
 
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I had a Variance hearing with the County board this weeks. The Variance was to have the setback reduced from 40 to 20' on the side yard to make it easy to back trailers into the building. I had 3 neighbors show up... While the meeting was strictly about weather or not to grant the 20' variance, the neighbors somehow thought they were going to keep me from building my shop... I wish I recorded it so that I had a record of all the complaints about what "might happen" if I build a shop.

"No one needs a 4,000 sq ft shop"
"He might start storing dump trucks on the property"
"He could be running a race team out of there."
"It could bring increased traffic to the neighborhood"
"We all paid for the road 50 years ago when we moved in, we don't need someone to come in and tear it up with heavy equipment"
"Previous owners had beer and drug parties on the property"

It went on and on. No one had a good reason why the setback variance shouldn't be allowed, so it passed.

Though I didn't have to, I addressed the neighbors concerns that my intent was for personal use. They will be pissed when they hear my Corvette, but they really should have went together an bought the property before I did if they were so concerned about what might happen.


So, with the variance passed, I have the green light to continue with the planned configuration of the building. I'm about a week away from ordering, just have to hammer out the final details.

I have someone coming to take down the current 30x40 building this weekend. Then I will remove the old slab, and begin the dirt work for the new building... hopefully that is done by the end of the month and maybe the concrete will be done in October/ early Nov.

It's all about "Change"! Neighbors probably don't know you or how your project will look in the end. Over time you will be able to prove all their accusations were wrong, but they will forget by then anyway. Good Luck with your project.
 

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Looking good! Pour day is scary and relief at the same time, means things are permanent, but it's finally real.

Hopefully my neighbors will be as receptive as yours have turned out to be... A couple of them aren't liking the piles of dirt in my yard and the bright green portapotty... Only a couple of more months, hopefully.
 
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Just got som pics from my truck driver. New shop is on the way!
 

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Building was delivered. Took 3 hours to unload. After heavy rains, i destroyed.my parking lot with the fork lift. I decided to start working on the grading to get all the water to flow better around the shop. 3 more weeks for concrete to cure before erection.
 

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Big update... Skeleton is up. Rented a 39' telehandler and a 19' scissor lift, along with purchasing another 20' scissor lift. I feel like it was the perfect combo of equipment to get the job done. Rounded up a crew of buddies to help out. Other than some anchor bolts being set wider than the template, everything went up pretty smoothly.

Next step is to finish up the cable bracing, install base channel, then frame up 8 windows, and 8 doors.
 

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Re: The Power Plant (50 x 80 x 18 steel shop)

Hell of a weekend, I don't think I've worked that hard in a while, still sore! What a ton of fun it was though.
 
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Still making progress. A bit discouraging after how big the results of the first 3 days of the build... Now little things that take all day don't seem to make a big difference. But my pile of building parts keeps getting smaller. I have all 4 garage and all 4 man door frames installed, as well as the 2 office window frames. This week I should finish up with the 6 high window frames, and the base channel. Then after installing the man doors and windows, I'll trim out the openings and be ready for sheet metal in a week or so.
 

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Well it looks like I haven't been keeping up with this post. Here's some updates. I put base channel around the perimeter, This allow both an exterior and interior mounting for the walls panels. Most basic buildings would just have a base angle for the exterior, then a separate angle would be installed later for the interior walls to mount to if you chose to do that.

Installed windows and doors. I used a local vinyl window company to make custom windows to my dimensions. Double pane, insulated, low e windows. Half price of anything at Lowes.

The doors were purchased with the building through Olympia. They are Plyco brand insulated thermally broken doors. (20 series iirc) I'm pretty happy with the quality.20210521_193229.jpg

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Somehow I don't have any pictures of the trim getting installed. Guess I was just too busy getting it done. It was fairly easy, but just a lot of work. I broke down and got a Milwuakee fuel rivet gun after hand popping 50 rivets the first day.

So for the building process, I wanted to do as much as possible by myself, to both save some money and also to get the experience. Well, that all went great, but I just didn't know how long all that would take. So my biggest flaw in the build was waiting until I was done to try to find a crew to help me out. This was the beginning of summer and as it turns out everyone was busy for several months. I found 1 crew that wanted to do it, but they were a few hours away and wanted me to spring for hotel rooms.

I decided to wait it out after contact 1 crew that was local. They had good communication, and they also had experience with the energy saver insulation system that I was using. They sent a bunch of pics of their work and it looked great.

So I took a few months off the building in the summer to work on one of my car projects, my Procharged 98 Corvette. I needed to finish my covid upgrades, which included clutch, torque tube rebuild, rear end rebuild, Dual Oil coolers, wide front fenders, big brakes, full suspension with drop spindles, coil overs, bump steer kits, sway bars, etc, etc. I finished it just in time to take it on a planned cruise to the Back of the Dragon with a bunch of buddies a few weeks ago.
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The building frame is looking very nice. That base channel idea is a good one. Nice Corvette too, I'm sure it will be very happy in that new shop once it's complete.
 
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So my crew finally became available and it was time to start skinning the building. A crew of 5 guys and the plan was to skin the building, install all the insulation, and finish off all the exterior trim and gutters. From the point where I left off with all the openings trimmed, they figured it would take them 7 days of work to get the rest done.


We got the roof on just before the rain started, so had the rest of the day to start the interior insulation install. These pics are up to day 5 that the crew has been here. 2 days left to finish the exterior.. Half an end wall, the all corner trim, roof trim, gutters. Then finish off the rest of the interior insulation.

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Catching up on some video footage. Boxing foundation and plumbing intro:


The more detailed DIY plumbing episode:
 
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Garage doors are mostly complete. Clopay 3720 from Home Depot. 2" thick, R18.4. Big doors are 14'2"w x 14t. Small door is 9'2"w x 8't.

Doors took 6 months to get order fulfilled. Luckily, I order the early and they were in a warehouse waiting for me when I needed them. Clopay from Home Depot was the best option that I could find for a DIY install. Dealers for other brands wanted to do the install themselves. I needed to save some money. Doors were right around $11k "out the door" :)

Instructions said to use 2 track hangers per track. In my typical overkill fashion, I ended up doing 3, all made out of 2" 12ga punched angle iron. (Fastenal has for $30 10ft )

This was my first time installing a garage door at all, and I was able to do it all solo. The big door panels were 70# a piece, but more awkward due to their length. It took a long time to install these. First issue was my scissor lift motor crapped out on me. The wrong replacement motor was sent to me, so That ended up being a week delay, and a $300 repair. I ended up buying new 6v golf cart batteries for the lift as well, so another $400. (I knew it was coming, it came with 2 big 12v car batteries.)

My biggest issue was I didn't have a spot to mount the spring retainers. I should have looked at the door instructions to know where to put them, before the insulation and vinyl liner were in place. I had to cut the liner and go back and install some c Channel so I had something to mount the springs to. I did 2 per door. I'm not sure what a paid installer would have done, but i probably would have ended up having to live with some exposed scrap wood if I wasn't around to stop him.

If you've never had the joy of winding a 6" garage door spring, you don't know what you are missing out on. Going off of what I learned on YouTube, I was able to avoid injury. Everyone references the "horror stories" when garage door springs are mentioned, but it wasn't that big of a deal with the right winding bars.

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You can see i the above pics, there is some light in the garage. I'm using 240w led ufo highbays from Amazon.
Brand: JOMITOP
240W High Bay LED Lighting Dimmable 36000 Lumens DLC Listed 900W HPS or MH Bulbs Equivalent 5000K Bright White Industrial Highbay Light, Warehouse Light Fixtures, AC 90-277v

They were $110 each, about $40 cheaper than the equivalent well advertised "hyperlite" brand.

These had a regular 120v wall plug and a separate 0-10v dimmer. Made it easy to wire temporarily with extension cords. I can cut the plugs off later to hardwire if I choose.

They are pretty impressive. I did the 240w version since the reference charts said to use them above 18'. I bought 9 lights. There will be 3 in each of the open bays. The 4th bay will have a loft I'll do something else there.

I mounted the middle lights with some of my leftover 2" 12ga punched angle. I just spanned the middle purlins and hung the light in the middle. The other lights were mounted with a piece of uni-strut, with 3/8" eye bolt, and a quick link.

Only the middle 4 are temporarily hooked up. Its easily enough light to finish the building. With a single light i could read a book at the opposite end of the building.

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You don't fully grasp the size/scale of this garage build until you are in it. This thing is HUGE. It's the garage to really envy.
 
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