The Ratchet Collection Thread
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3baygarage
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r_olson_06
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Ratchet.
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Most of my vintage 1/2 inch ratchets,
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Armstrong 1/2 inch, no idea of the age of this.. not sure its old enough to class as vintage?
'76 dated Par-x UR-71 Sadly had to fit a new kit in this as when i got it, the selector lever was broken off, and someone had clearly been using a cheater pipe on it and broke off two of the teeth from the gear
shame as the original gear was chrome plated, and new ones have that ugly grove ground in them (hidden on Snap-On ones by the name plate) i may braze and zinc plate it at some point so it looks better, but as the chrome is peeling etc on the handle I'm not hugely precious about it..
'76 date coded (again) Snap-On GS710 in industrial finish, some animal had been beating on the handle of this with a hammer at some point, managed to carefully file and clean up the handle and reblued it so looks like honest wear now rather than abuse
Rheidco-Metabo push through type ratchet, 60s or 70s i think, quite nice and compact, but otherwise usual fare for this type of ratchet.
The last two are Hazet 916s, the first one (sadly engraved with a previous company/owners name on the head) is a 'small a' so pre 1965, second one is later, but still pre 1989 as marked west germany
Have realized recently that the Hazets bear striking resemblance to a herbrand S-10, right down to the selector switch and faceplate screw positions. some copying going on clearly, presumably after Herbrand stopped making this type, as im not sure when hazet first offered these, but must be 50s or later.
I don't have a Herbrand S-10 to compare directly yet, but would be interesting to see if the mechanisim is a complete clone,
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From front to back:
Armstrong 1/2 inch, no idea of the age of this.. not sure its old enough to class as vintage?
'76 dated Par-x UR-71 Sadly had to fit a new kit in this as when i got it, the selector lever was broken off, and someone had clearly been using a cheater pipe on it and broke off two of the teeth from the gear
shame as the original gear was chrome plated, and new ones have that ugly grove ground in them (hidden on Snap-On ones by the name plate) i may braze and zinc plate it at some point so it looks better, but as the chrome is peeling etc on the handle I'm not hugely precious about it..'76 date coded (again) Snap-On GS710 in industrial finish, some animal had been beating on the handle of this with a hammer at some point, managed to carefully file and clean up the handle and reblued it so looks like honest wear now rather than abuse
Rheidco-Metabo push through type ratchet, 60s or 70s i think, quite nice and compact, but otherwise usual fare for this type of ratchet.
The last two are Hazet 916s, the first one (sadly engraved with a previous company/owners name on the head) is a 'small a' so pre 1965, second one is later, but still pre 1989 as marked west germany
Have realized recently that the Hazets bear striking resemblance to a herbrand S-10, right down to the selector switch and faceplate screw positions. some copying going on clearly, presumably after Herbrand stopped making this type, as im not sure when hazet first offered these, but must be 50s or later.
I don't have a Herbrand S-10 to compare directly yet, but would be interesting to see if the mechanisim is a complete clone,
davethorik
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I snipped your quote, but when I saw your pic initially I thought there were 2 Herbrand ratchets in your pic, you seem to collect vintage usa stuff so I didn't think twice. Then I read your post.
That's really interesting. I've been trying to find a Herbrand slide shifter in the wild but I live in Ohio and I have yet to see any Herbrand tools but the occasional onesy wrench. I also noticed Herbrand had a few different handle styles for their rats, they made an I beam type like your Hazets, a bullet shaped handle with 2 knurled bands, then this type (from aa) which I believe Proto copied for their XL ratchets.
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Glen Vassallo
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Hi all. I don't mean to hack this thread, but I have been looking for a repair kit for a MAC xr8-p red handle ratchet for a long time without any luck. What I really need is the selector but would buy a complete kit if necessary. Do any of you know where I can buy one from? I've contacted MAC and they don't have kits for this old ratchet anymore. If this does not belong here do not hesitate to move it. Thanks.
Glen Vassallo
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Hi twertsy. That would be great. This ratchet has been in my dad's tool box for as long as I can remember, so I would really like to fix it. Thanks.
RagTopTA
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Found a few ratchets this week end, and was very happy to find number 2 and 3 OTC ratchets with plugs! The 3/8 is the H260 newer model of the female swivel I found a few weeks ago! Really liking the OTC stuff! Also All three sizes williams super ratchets, and older williams, and 2 Thorsens.
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RagTopTA
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Thanks! I forgot the Williams 1/4 in my pic! I love these OTC! gonna be keeping an eye out for them! Happy to have a family of superratchets finally though : ) My ratchet drawer is completly full. gonna have to find a new solution for storage!
r_olson_06
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Very nice finds. Both of them OTC ratchets are hard to come by. I am kinda of regretting working this weekend instead of going to an auction. If you ever want to trade something for either one of them 3/8 rotos shoot me a PM.
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RagTopTA
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Will do! I kinda have a good line on stuff like that. Theres a guy that deals in tools at all the near by events. He has MASSIVE amounts... I tell him what I'm looking for each month I go . If he sees it he puts it back for me! Ill look for one for you next month when I go. When I buy from him I always round up by $5, or more if its a big sale. Extra few bucks here n there keeps me in good graces!
r_olson_06
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Nice. That is the same way I treat my people I buy from all the time and they hold stuff for me me. Worth the couple extra bucks here and there.
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RagTopTA
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Yup, pays off. Hes gonna be at the Decatur swap meet this Friday Ill spend some time looking through his tables again.
RagTopTA
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Found some cheap ratchets today at a swap meet... A plomb wf21 pretty beat uyp, a Walden 3/8, a WARDS 3/8 (japanese), and a PROTO wf21 never seen one of these in the wild till today.
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r_olson_06
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Thought that was a speedmaster at first. I have never seen one like that.
Here is my finds for today. Picked these up really cheap (under $1) a piece.
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Challenger
Powerkraft
Husky
SK female ratchet
Old farm ratchet?
Snap on Milwaukee
Thorsen
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Craftsman -v- with the the opening in the end of the drive.
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d42jeep
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Here is an odd partial hex drive set I picked up today. The ratchet looks kind of like an S-K hex I posted some time back but what seemed odd to me was that the sockets were metric.
-Don
-Don
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RagTopTA
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you got some good pickups... I sure love finding ratchets for a buck! the proto is neat... i looked at the raised panels with a magnifying glass but couldnt find any kinds of lettering on either side. I guess its original.. says PROTO and WF21- and a tiny US stamped bedside that
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Thought that was a speedmaster at first. I have never seen one like that.
Here is my finds for today. Picked these up really cheap (under $1) a piece.
From top
Challenger
Powerkraft
Husky
SK female ratchet
Old farm ratchet?
Snap on Milwaukee
Thorsen
Master mechanic
Craftsman -v- with the the opening in the end of the drive.
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Here's the farm ratchet: http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?id=24974
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RagTopTA
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Twertsy, you know much about that Proto ratchet I found ? Its got the WF21 and a smaller US stamped into it. Nothing I could see on the panels of the handle.
RagTopTA
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ok, thanks. I didnt have any old proto like that so I had to have it. itll fit right in my proto box I found last week : )
3baygarage
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D42- that sure looks like a Dunlap set. Thought the ratchet would be marked though.
Ragtop- you're on a roll man. That Proto is cool with the Speedmaster style handle.
R - sweet haul there. Another female SK!
Ragtop- you're on a roll man. That Proto is cool with the Speedmaster style handle.
R - sweet haul there. Another female SK!
d42jeep
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Thanks for your reply. I hope that they are Dunlap. I guess that I'll need to do some catalog research. I was just surprised to see metric Hex drive sockets.
-Don
-Don
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Private Lugnutz
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That's the second old Demuth Steel Products farm ratchet that has shown up here in the last week or so, r. Elidas found one last week. Here's a link to his GJ thread.
To my knowledge, Sears axed the Dunlap name from handtools around 1958. Surprised to hear they had the name listed as late as a 1960 catalog. But I have often seen graphics and descriptions re-used in subsequent catalogs after the product itself had changed in some way. Based on the artifacts I've seen, I believe they replaced the old Dunlap name with just "SEARS" at that time. Wouldn't surprise me if the catalog shows Dunlap while the actual 1960 tool itself was marked SEARS. I've also seen instances where the contract mfr making Sears/Craftsman/Dunlap marked tools were making the identical tool for other sales outlets but had no brand name mark, leaving any retailer to instead brand the packaging themselves.
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d42jeep
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Here is the Dunlap hex drive set from the '60 catalog. It looks like the spinner is marked Dunlap but perhaps none of the rest of the tools. There are a lot of Dunlap marked tools listed in the '60 catalog but I believe that it was the swan song for Dunlap.
http://www.blackburntools.com/artic...ives/sears/pdfs/sears-craftsman-1960-hand.pdf
-Don
http://www.blackburntools.com/artic...ives/sears/pdfs/sears-craftsman-1960-hand.pdf
-Don
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RagTopTA
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r_olson_06
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Is that the eBay one?. I was think about bidding on it but left it go.
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RagTopTA
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yes sir it is... its nice! I got it pretty cheap!
Btw if you have your eye on one let me know so I dont bid on it I have enought already.
r_olson_06
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No worries. Glad some here picked it up for sure. Still look for that 3/8 version roto.
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d42jeep
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I've picked up a few WW2 era plain finish 1/4" ratchets lately for my WW2 sets.
-Don
-Don
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Ole Slewfoot
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I found myself in a part of town I usually don't stop, so I decided to visit a pawn shop I haven't been to. I didn't need either enough to approach sticker price, but there was this cute peerless which is stuck, Seems to be aobut a 7/16 female square drive.
And a WF flavor I haven't seen before, and some Plomb/Cman things I'll detail in the show your Plomb thread. What's with the hole under the selector?
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RagTopTA
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Never knew much about dunlap tools, but I snagged this little set at an Estate sale for a dollar, and a nother simular Craftsman set at another a while back for a dollar. They from the 50-60's yall think ?
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RagTopTA
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Very cool, that Peerless roto is neat! never seen one!
Ole Slewfoot
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I was surprised it doesn't roto quite all the way over, it will go past center either way though.
I dig the red-yellow Acetate on that dunlap man.
I dig the red-yellow Acetate on that dunlap man.