The Ratchet Collection Thread

[ed4banger]

I found this Craftsman BE ratchet today. It is not Long-C, but is a push-through (missing the drive plug). It is in good shape, and works smoothly.

From the lettering and the push-through design it seems to be pre-1934. Is this right?...

 

[four.cycle]

Gentlemen:
Does anyone have any idea who manufactured this unit for Dayton?



Dayton / Dayton Electric Mfg. Co., Chicago, IL 60648 / (private label brand for Grainger)

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Trick question? That's bonney stuff

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here's one

 

[four.cycle]

No.... I don't ask "trick questions". Bonney, eh? Another brand about which I know less than nothing.
It's a model I have not seen before.
Thanks!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Bonney was a supplier of dayton socket sets up to early 60s, thorsen supplied most of the later stuff. Nice ratchet!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have one bonney made 1/4" set

 

[davethorik]

Found this Crescent CS70 ratchet today. 1/2 drive.
Appears to be made by Wright, has a 1962 Wright date code.
Been looking for the Wright version for a while, guess I will take Crescent
Edit: Stone patent ratchet, filed by Wright Tool in 1950, granted 1955.

 

[JjKk40]

Here's s Wright version I just picked up. It must have been someone's go-to 1/2" drive for a few decades as it is fairly worn and broken in....

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here is a pat pending n70 with crescent and wards speedmaster

 

[Gear Wolf]

I found this Craftsman BE ratchet today. It is not Long-C, but is a push-through (missing the drive plug). It is in good shape, and works smoothly.

From the lettering and the push-through design it seems to be pre-1934. Is this right?

I'd agree with Ed's assessment. I don't have my notes in front of me, but that range seems to be on point going from memory. Unfortunately, I made errors back in the day, when it came to the dates of specific families of tools. Hopefully, I can get the train back on the rails again eventually.

Your ratchet existed in a really wonky period of Craftsman ratchets, where certain pieces either fall off the map or have almost phantom like reappearances after being taken out of the catalog for a year/season and are reinserted again.

Some have suspected that Sear Catalog illustrators became confused about what exactly was being offered/available the years just before WW2 and during. Honestly, I'm in that camp to a degree. Interestingly, there are pieces that literally show up one time, in one specific distribution region, and they DO exist. Ugh...

Perhaps, had the War not be a part of the equation, there could have been pockets of items that could have been still available due to the logistics of the region. Things moved quite a bit slower back in those times; however, people were still "generally" aware of their inventory management.

I'm not really sure what in the heck was going on, but I guess that is what makes this fun! ^_^

 

[Gear Wolf]

Some more old Craftsman, an early 3/8 Vanadium. couple C-97s and an AJ Fors circle-H ratchet.

Ed is that the Fors you got off eBay? I could have sworn yours was more shiny than that.

 

[ed4banger]

Ed is that the Fors you got off eBay? I could have sworn yours was more shiny than that.

....

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

my current (not finished) collection of classic HAZET (Germany) ratchets:

from left to right:
a) 1925-30 - Hazet 240-59 - hex drive predecesssor of the 916
b) 1933-51 - Hazet 916 - first 916 1/2" square drive ratchet
c) 1952-65 - Hazet 916 - little "a" version "Hazet"
d) 1965-69 - HAZET 916 - same now with "HAZET"
e) ~1969 - HAZET 916 S
f) ~1972 - HAZET 916 S
g) 1976-84 - HAZET 916 SP
h) 1985 - HAZET 916 SP
i) 1985-2000 - HAZET 916
j) 1992-2000 - HAZET 916 N
k) ~2000 - HAZET 916 S (T)
l) ~2000 - HAZET 916 ST

regards,

 

[bonneyman]

Hello everyone,

my current (not finished) collection of classic HAZET (Germany) ratchets:

from left to right:
a) 1925-30 - Hazet 240-59 - hex drive predecesssor of the 916
b) 1933-51 - Hazet 916 - first 916 1/2" square drive ratchet
c) 1952-65 - Hazet 916 - little "a" version "Hazet"
d) 1965-69 - HAZET 916 - same now with "HAZET"
e) ~1969 - HAZET 916 S
f) ~1972 - HAZET 916 S
g) 1976-84 - HAZET 916 SP
h) 1985 - HAZET 916 SP
i) 1985-2000 - HAZET 916
j) 1992-2000 - HAZET 916 N
k) ~2000 - HAZET 916 S (T)
l) ~2000 - HAZET 916 ST

regards,

HAZET made some sweet looking stuff. Thanks for posting!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I would collect some, but once I expand to foreign brands I will definately run out of space. Nice ratchets!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

My bubble ratchet returned safely from its trip to visit gearwolf. If gw needs to use one of your tools for his research please do not hesitate. It was returned promptly and in good condition!

 

[r_olson_06]

My bubble ratchet returned safely from its trip to visit gearwolf. If gw needs to use one of your tools for his research please do not hesitate. It was returned promptly and in good condition!

Amazing ratchet sir. Those things are super rare!

Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I'm incredibly jealous of that ratchet OTG! +1 on tool loans to GW. I don't think he had mine for more than a week before it boomeranged back to me.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks guys it is an interesting ratchet. Anxious to see the video!

 

[Username already in use]

Brought home my first Palm-Grip ratchet this weekend. I can't wait to put it to use.

 

[RagTopTA]

Picked up a bent handled/flex head 3/8 drive JC Penny rat along with a double drive BOG mfg rat at the flea.

 

[d42jeep]

Wow. Another dual drive Bog made ratchet. Cool. Here are a couple of 1/4” drive and a 3/8” drive Challenger ratchets and my Chrome X Quality dual drive ratchet.
-Don

 

[outofbounds]

Turned up this Walden 4051 3/8 Drive Bullet Handle from Facebook in Lansing, MI while having to run up there (1 hour from home) on personal business.

 

[four.cycle]

"...and my Chrome X Quality dual drive ratchet..."

wait.... what???
what's the patent number on that unit?

 

[d42jeep]

Sorry, BK. The ratchet is in the Bay Area and I can’t make out the number in the pictures. I’ll put it on my to do list.
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That's the pepperdine patent, 1888885. I have those ratchets in several brands, hinsdale, bog, western giant, plomb... it does not relate to the dual drive in that version.

 

[four.cycle]

I can probably figure it out when I have time and patience. Not a big deal.
I wasn't even aware there was such a thing as a "chrome-x" ratchet.
I have an almost complete set of "Chrome-X" 1/2" drive 12-point SAE sockets, but no drive accessories, and all of the "Chrome-X" sets I've ever seen on Ebay (all of which were 1/2" drive, as I recall) had either a 3202 or 3202R (Indestro) ratchet in the kit, or (for the most part) were missing all of the drive accessories.

Very interesting find!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

A vi-chrome 1/4" ratchet. Seems to be a cousin of this bonney.

 

[Rick B.]

My little grouping Craftsman, Snap-On, SK and Fleet including the 1930's era 1/4 drive Craftsman Circle H ratchet which came with an extension from the same time period.

 

[outofbounds]

A vi-chrome 1/4" ratchet. Seems to be a cousin of this bonney.

Interesting find there! I thought that Vi-Chrome was a sideline brand of Herbrand.......I wonder if they hand anything to do with the Bonnet ratchet as well. Executing the raised, polished "Bonney Bubble" would be a big ask in contract production though. Maybe it's the other way around and Bonney made ratchets for Herbrand, and by extension, Vi-Chrome?

 

[four.cycle]

Vi-Chrome was a sideline brand of Herbrand

The "Vi-Chrome" moniker was indeed under the Herbrand bonnet. Not a clue as to any association with Bonney.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

They were both part of triangle Corp after I think 68, but this looks older

 

[twertsy]

Correct, made under Trianglr by Bonney.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have a dayton version as well with same mechanism in a pre zip code box, but selector is different.

 

[twertsy]

Yep, when Bonney production was moved to Ohio, prior to SC.

 

[Isaiah6113]

Hello all,

Wasn’t quite sure where to post these, but this thread seemed like a good bet.

My wife and I went out of town, and striving to be vigilant I happened to find these Craftsman Butterfly/Flying =V= Ratchets etc. near where we were staying.

The 1/2 drive set is missing the 13/16 & 3/4 sockets. The ratchet and breaker bar are in great shape. There’s a 6-in extension and two deep sockets, 3/4 and 13/16. Both ratchets have oilers.

The 3/8 set is missing the 1/2 socket. There’s a -G- 3” extension and a New Britain #4 Phillips, a Snap-On 7/16, and a =V= 13/16 spark plug socket.

The rest is a mix of Mastercraft and some metric that read only CR-Moly Steel. And a Husky USA 5/8 spark plug socket. There is also a weirdo Mastercraft socket light.

Thanks for looking.

Matthew
(Happily handed over $30)

 

[bbbarracuda]

I won a random flat of tools at a local auction recently and this 1/2" drive plug for a ratchet was in it. Any idea who the maker was? Only markings are Made in USA
Thanks

 

[humber2]

Post 1547 has me close to identifying my unmarked ratchet but I need a little push to reach the winning post. TIA

 

[3baygarage]

That’s an odd one. While it has somewhat of a Williams look it, I’m pretty sure it isn’t US made. Old Belzer has some oldies of a similar nature. I’ve even seen old Bahco that resembled Williams. I can’t say for certain because I’m no expert in the many different old European brands, but I’m leaning towards something from over there.