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Shops are like engineers, they don't make anyone any money, but they're a necessary tool in order to be able keep things moving. If the tool isn't usable, something needs to change.
Speak for yourself. I make patented stuff... ;P

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I think I went a bit overkill, I sandblasted all the milk scale of the flat plate before welding, may go back and do the square tube too. I am going to paint it with cold galvanized paint, then assemble it and I think it will just sit in the pipe, it may be too free but I think it will sit well and not want to spin free unless forced.

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He moved and took it with him... but a near neighbor got sick of the plow (and kids with baseball bats) ruining his mailbox... he mounted it on a spring... was right in the middle between flaccid and rock hard... I always thought that was cool. The street side of the mailbox was covered in 1/4" plate as well. (right wall of the box if you are looking at it)
 
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The artsy one will be really rugged, not sure if I want the spring or to hang it yet, will have to play with my design. The idea in my head makes me think hanging from chain is the way to go, but that could change. I have some stainless steel springs that it could hang from, could be a better setup, I don’t want to get too carried away with that yet.

Got the bracket painted with one coat, I have some stainless steel carriage bolts to attach it, I do need to trim the bolts off, they are way too long. The one thing I don’t like about the new mailbox is the door opens 180 degrees, no stops, it is a magnetic latch, but I am not sure I like the fact that it goes all the way down, although it could be safer if it wasn’t latched, less likely to get ripped off or tweaked. I also forgot my numbers, so I will use some blue electrical tape for right now. Probably have the GF cut some out of nice reflective vinyl.

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Letter carriers like 180 degree doors...

Almost all my fasteners are stainless... living in a salt environment. Had a cheap stainless bbq at my on the ocean beach house... it rotted away in three years. Our steel shed was covered with warehouse floor paint...
 
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I forgot to bring the level, but it is close enough for me.

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You would think so, but the plow guys around here don't really care. If this gets any force more than opening or closing, it will spin sideways easy enough, so I hope that will last a couple storms.
 

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I am thinking about making a bracket that would allow for a break away situation if the plow or snow being pushed by the plow hits the box, then the box would turn 90 degrees out of the path. I do not want this complicated, I just want my mail, I eventually want to make a really overly complicated artsy post to hold a bigger mailbox, that would be someday, not this someday though.
Strouty, you could cut the pipe and add a coilover spring in the gap, fixing the height problem and giving the post some give at the same time. They are available in different diameters and stiffness.
 
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I am not sure that would do it, the snow really pushes on the mailbox, I feel it would need to either move up or way off to the side, that is why the chain mounted (hanging) mailboxes seem to hold up better. The Town where my Dad's shop is had so many problems with public works destroying mailboxes, they told people they would install new posts and boxes (chain hanging style), if you didn't use the ones they set up, you were on your own for any future damage from the snow.

I have seen some mounted on a double swing return to center hinge thing, like you would see in a restaurant kitchen, seemed decent, but I am not sure they would hold up well to the elements, willing to be they make them out of stainless if I wanted to really spend some money.
 

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I had a girlfriend in HS whose dad got tired of kids or drunks hitting his mailbox, so he designed it to be mounted a ways off the road. Then he figured out how to get it balanced so if it was hit, it would spin around on a set of greased bearings...

Not that unusual, except his front extension with the mailbox was shorter than the rear and he attached a 4lb sledge hammer head to the end of the rear. So when it swung around, it would hit the car that knocked it around. I'm sure it took out many taillights on teenager's cars.
 
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I think these days, that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. Besides, teenagers are too lazy to pick up a bat and hit mailboxes, unless it is in a video game. ;)
 

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Yeah, that was 30 years ago. And I do agree that teenagers are less likely to go out knocking over mailboxes, but they still do stupid stuff late at night around here. Not nearly as common now, but it still happens.
 
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Taking the leather loveseat that I bought a few years ago, (sat in it at least three times, moved it a dozen times) to the local charity auction. I was going to try and repurpose the leather, but it is all smaller pieces and I don't think it is worth the effort. The MIL upgraded her chairs (really seemed like a downgrade to me) and I ended up with two of her old recliners, they are the smaller type, but I could only fit one at the house, so the other one is going to be at the shop for now. Should be better than the loveseat, probably get a lot more use too.

I am thinking about taking a look at a Pexto shear, it was knocked over, so a few things broke, nothing ridiculous, but it needs tinkering. Price is pretty good for the size, but I need a shear right now like I need another hole in my head, I know that has not stopped me before, just felt like mentioning it again. I am going to set the arbor press back on the rollers I made, I will trim the threaded rods down so it doesn't take out my ankle or anything, but I think that will be the easiest way to move it for now. There is no way to just grab it with the forklift, you need to use a strap, the rollers are a much better choice.
 

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Taking the leather loveseat that I bought a few years ago, (sat in it at least three times, moved it a dozen times) to the local charity auction. I was going to try and repurpose the leather, but it is all smaller pieces and I don't think it is worth the effort. The MIL upgraded her chairs (really seemed like a downgrade to me) and I ended up with two of her old recliners, they are the smaller type, but I could only fit one at the house, so the other one is going to be at the shop for now. Should be better than the loveseat, probably get a lot more use too.

I am thinking about taking a look at a Pexto shear, it was knocked over, so a few things broke, nothing ridiculous, but it needs tinkering. Price is pretty good for the size, but I need a shear right now like I need another hole in my head, I know that has not stopped me before, just felt like mentioning it again. I am going to set the arbor press back on the rollers I made, I will trim the threaded rods down so it doesn't take out my ankle or anything, but I think that will be the easiest way to move it for now. There is no way to just grab it with the forklift, you need to use a strap, the rollers are a much better choice.

What's the size and capacity of the shear? I use a shear many times in a week, they are very handy tools if they have capacity.
 
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It is a 52" that will cut 14 gauge. It would be neat to convert it to full hydraulic, but it has a 5 HP motor right now.
 

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We took a different approach to the snow plow and mailbox problem when I was a kid. The "post" was an L shape with the long arm of the L in the ground (L upside down). The mailbox was hung with chain from the short arm of the L. This has two benefits. First It puts the post further away from the road, and therefore the snow plow blade. Second because the mailbox is hung on chain, a direct hit damages the mailbox, but not the post. Often the mailbox survived with just a dent, but if needed it was easily replaced.
 

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I would pass on that shear and wait for one rated for at least 10 or 11ga.

You would be amazed how often you want more capacity on brakes and shears. The tonnage required to work with real metal is mind boggling.
 
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That was what I was thinking as well, while 14 is decent, it would be really nice to cut 10 gauge, especially for the space it will being hogging. At least your comment reinforces my thought process!

My GF helped load the love seat, I need to go return the four bags of bottles now, then I will clean the shop up a bit more.

I need to either install a brake controller in the maroon burb or Bev, or I can fix the exhaust on the black burb. I am not sure I want to get into the exhaust as it will become a multi day plug up the shop process. I am almost positive I will need to remove the exhaust manifolds, the only good part is that when I do that, I can change the rest of the glow plugs, well, I hope that I can. Lets save the exhaust work for next month.............
 
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In a shop your size, I would want nothing wider than a 48" brake that can handle 10ga steel. Anything bigger than that and you realistically need a space almost 20' x 20' to use it properly. Remember, you need to be able to get at the backside to pick up the drops, up to half a sheet, as well as handle full sheets in the front.

Shears are real space hogs. My 10ft 10ga pexto is over 14 feet wide, and with the squaring arm on it takes up almost 14feet deep as well. Plus you need the space on all sides to handle sheets. And it is 17,000 lbs, so it takes riggers to move.

So really, unless you're planning to use it on the regular, a shear can be a burden.

However, if you cut sheet metal regularly, there is no better tool for fast, clean cuts on sheet goods. I love having a shear at my disposal.

The holy trinity of shear, brake and roller are indispensable in a metalworkers world. I would also add a power notcher if you do any box and pan work.
 
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I have a mubea iron worker that I need to figure out if it works, I also have a nice Beverly shear that needs a stand. What I really should do is whenever I feel the itch, go shopping in my own storage boxes. ;)

Growing up we always had an iron worker, I can remember that we cut a hole in the wall so we could punch holes in 20' angle irons without flipping things around. That was fun.
 
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Usually I farm out exhaust work. If it needs parts, having a budget shop do it is usually almost as cheap as buying the parts and doing it yourself. Mr. Muffler, Top Value, etc, usually charge about $20 more than you can get the parts at Autozone.
 

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I can't tell from your pics what your mailbox design is, i solved this issue at my place with a mount that sits about 8' off the road edge, with a long arm that pivots and a spring to center it to the road. It swings away occasionally with a stiff wind, but it's rare. All mailbox damage ended with that design.
 
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Unfortunately there isn't enough room to do that, I would end up with a post up a hill on someone else's property. My post is sturdy, never had issues with that, but the mailbox was getting destroyed, all I did was make it so if the mailbox gets pushed with any force, it will spin to the side. It is not my permanent solution, but I needed a place for all my fancy checks and bills to go.
 
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Had a few interruptions to cleaning, but I have the burb loaded and ready to drop off stuff for the charity auction. I also got the press up on the rollers, ordered a new mattress topper that I want to try before going through the new bed process. I also broke a 2x4 with the arbor press.

Lastly, I was dealing with the prospect of returning the lathe chuck and faceplate, I thought about making an adapter and just using the stuff I have, so I would need a spindle with the D1-4 mount to use as the adapter. I searched for one and up popped the D1-4 spindle for my lathe!!!! I am going to buy it, it would be dumb not to, I knew it was an option but would not have thought that I would be able to find one. Talk about lucking out, now I need to do a bit of research on what it will take to swap the spindle, seems like it should be straight forward, but I could be in for a bunch of surprises.
 
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Due to the rain, the volunteers left early, now my truck is full of stuff, hopefully tomorrow night I can get it gone.

I made an offer on the spindle for my lathe, went back and forth a bit, came to a deal, so it will be on its way soon. My buddy is trying to convince me to buy a 3 axis CNC, then sell my 2 Axis Bridgeport. I am not sure I can do it right now, but I think we found a near perfect unit. Details on it after I either buy it or decide it is a no go.
 

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I wrote the programming software for CNCs back in the late 80s for Black n Decker... automated their mold production. Met Andre the giant at the hotel they put me up in...

Their shop was bigger than an airplane hanger... dozens of the same machines... row after row.
 

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You could fly small airplanes in that one. Not one post... totally open space... they told me the specs for the floor too... for the weight allowances...

I have a vivid memory of shaking Andre the giants hand too... lol... I was like a mad scientist back then. The hotel maid thought I was crazy because I had green bar paper printouts taped all over my room. Wouldn't let her clean till I left...
 
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I spent some time getting more scrap prepped, feels almost like I did nothing, actually made it worse as I decided to save more of the brass than I originally planned. Some of it looks like it would be usable with the copper I saved, like brackets to hold it to the ceiling or other oddball things. Regardless I am getting rid of 75% of it and the remaining stuff is all broken down for easier storage. Tomorrow I want to get the wire out of the shop, that will gain me a ton of space and that is what I really need, right now I am tripping over things and I hate that.

Projects for this week involve cleaning up the shop, remove more scrap, finish the pedestal mount for a friend’s golf ball washer, pick up flatbed bodies, (I know that is adding to the problem, but they should make me a bit of money, we will see, may be that they are not worth the money, but I feel like I can flip them on Craigslist easy enough.
 
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Showed up to do shop work today, ended up having a buddy stop by, then went to one of our tower sites with him to check out a generator issue (he is a generator guy), had lunch, just getting back now. I need to go to the local GM dealership and pick up a new parking brake release cable for the burb, then I am headed to the office for a little while, then I have to come back to the shop to get the dump trailer with a borrowed truck that has trailer brakes so I can go tomorrow to pick up all the flat bed truck bodies.
 
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That is funny! It got tucked away a few months back, I saw it the other day, but still can't get to it. In other words, nothing has been done. :(
 
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Last night I borrowed my brother’s truck, loaded up the stuff I needed to get the flat bed bodies, needed a ratchet strap, pulled one out of a milk crate, and found the missing M12 PVC cutter! Now I do have two of them. At least I didn’t totally lose the thing. I am guessing it got put away in the dark and then I threw the straps on top of it, after that it sat inside for a few months, so I didn’t even remember putting it away. Oh well.
 
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I've never had that happen to me. ..................I suggest everyone step back from me at least 50', so you don't get hurt when the lightning strikes.
 
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I figured I was going to find it in some random place and that is pretty much where it was. The milk crate looked like it was filled with ratchet straps, so I never investigated further, I definitely saw the crate while looking, I can remember thinking that I needed to put the straps away, except the door to the conex was frozen shut, so I never moved them.

Hopefully I can get all three bodies moved today, that will be another thing off my list, that essentially adds several more to the same list..................
 
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I wish it was that easy, adding to my list is like knocking the dominos over, checking things off is like trying to set them up while in a canoe.

I did get the first body, forklift operator broke the hydraulic tank, so it turned into a mess. I went to unload them, got an email that interrupted everything, one of the customers on a tower of ours was trying to do work that they were explicitly told they could not do, had to deal with that ASAP. Then I setup the crane to unload the body, one outrigger was operational, but not usable, so that was a no go. Found the fork extensions, set them up and just got the body unloaded. Now I am about to clean up the dump trailer so I can head over for the second one body, hopefully it won't be as bad as the first one!
 
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Last night I borrowed my brother’s truck, loaded up the stuff I needed to get the flat bed bodies, needed a ratchet strap, pulled one out of a milk crate, and found the missing M12 PVC cutter! Now I do have two of them. At least I didn’t totally loose the thing. I am guessing it got put away in the dark and then I threw the straps on top of it, after that it sat inside for a few months, so I didn’t even remember putting it away. Oh well.

THIS is the story of WHY I LABEL every thing. I got tired of buying the 5th and 6th rendition of the same tool... I also make it a point of never putting anything in a random location... I have milk crates... but they are designated for tools in use... so if I'm looking for something... LOOK in one of the 23 milk crates first.
 
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