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kent_323is

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What did you set the mixture needles to? A good starting point is 1 to 1.5 turns out. The mechanical fuel pump is on the engine?
An easier way to troubleshoot is to hook up a 3-5psi electric pulse pump. That usually gives enough pressure to make sure the needle & seat don't stick inside the float bowl.
They can be very frustrating when it doesn't work, hopefully a break and then come back to it will help. Good luck!
 
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Strouty

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I did set that at 1 turn out, there is another jet that I thought wasn’t a jet and it appears that one was supposed to be adjusted as well, I had it turned all the way in, at least that is what I remember. I will take a look at some of the other carbs and see where it was set, it is behind a plug, so it doesn’t get adjusted as easily as the one on the exterior.
 
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In my “spare time” I have been ripping Blu Ray and UHD 4K movies to digital files, just found out I should have done backups of the disc instead, then I could do more with the files later. I will probably go back through the favorites and do that, but I wish I had dedicated more time to learning about the software first. I used to do this with DVDs and would make an ISO file, so it was just like having the disc, only digital. I should have know. That there was something similar for Blu Ray and the UHD 4K discs. I was trying not to waste too much time, but apparently I wasted more time.

I am going to get into the carb again, just trying to finish up some office work before I smell like old gasoline again. It looks like we get a rain break around 4 this afternoon, so maybe, just maybe, I can get the dang forklift inside so I can drain the fuel tank and get it functional for the auction.
 
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Strouty

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Maybe a giant taco, but those are only in October.

I had to do laundry this morning and I actually had a movie I wanted to watch, I didn't expect it to be three hours long, but it was. I got my laundry done, washed some dishes, folded my laundry, and scanned some emails. I am not immune to being lazy...
 
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Strouty

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Same exact result after adjusting the other hidden screw, tried it in multiple locations, full flood, puddle in the intake. I am not wasting anymore time, regroup next week. I think it has to do with combining the two carburetors.
 
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Strouty

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The float is not leaking, I didn't try and put it in hot water to see if there are any leaks, but it has been in fuel enough that if it was taking it in, I would know it by now. The needle and seat are fine, swapped a second set just to be sure. I think that this is just an issue I created trying to combine the two styles of carburetors. I have found a lot more info online, so now I have to go through things and try to compare things. I do feel like if I get the right combination it will be fine, but at this point I am stuck. The industrial carbs seem to have quite a bit of differences, but I did confirm that the jet sizes are the same, so it isn't some crazy mismatch.
 
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Strouty

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If the float is bad it will have gas in it, right? if so then I do not have any gas in the float. If there is another point of failure, let me know. I removed the float when I changed the needle and seat, definitely nothing in it and the the intake was flooded with standing gas visible.
 

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What type of seat is with the needle? I.e. neoprene/rubber or brass?

Is the needle steel/brass or have a rubber tip on it?

Candidly, I would just put a valve on the fuel line and just slightly open the valve so you can get it to run without flooding....

These situations are frustrating..... been there done that....
 

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Also if the float tab that the needle sits on is not adjusted right it may not put enough pressure on the needle to close off the seat ( fuel flow)
As @kent_323is commented excessive fuel in the intake is a good indicator of a poor needle and seat mating
or excessive fuel pressure over coming the needle and seat

 
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Strouty

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The needle has a "rubber" tip, not sure what it is made of, but it is new (tried different ones). Float was adjusted to specs, even if not perfect, it would have to be off more than a little bit to make it flood like this.

I think one of the jets is wide open, the carb has incredible vacuum, so it would pull fuel like you were dumping it down the barrel. I am going to build up one based on the automotive specs and parts so I don't have a frakencarb as a variable.
 

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The ony jet problem I can imagine being severe enough to cause this would be the complete lack of one. Have you looked at the gas level in the bowl with the carb top off? Can you make sure the flow stops and the float goes to a reasonable level as you shove the needle closed?
 
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Strouty

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I think everyone is neglecting the fact that there are three different carbs I had to combine into one and I think there is something that didn't interchange properly. The industrial carb had ports plugged off that the automotive style had spring loaded vacuum ports in.

When I split the top half, I got fuel through the needle when the float dropped and when I manually closed it, the fuel stopped. The bowl was almost empty the first time, but full the second time I split it. I think that one of the ports is different and the vacuum is just sucking fuel the entire time it tries to run.
 
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Strouty

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i have to take the carb apart again and kind of look over the paths that the fuel takes and what the difference was between the industrial style and automotive style. I did find another exploded parts diagram for a forklift that shows some of the. spring loaded vacuum ports being used, so I may just have to build up one with all the parts from the automotive style and try that.
 
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Strouty

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I just figured that the industrial engines had the differences to kind of act like a governor. I really don’t know enough about carbs to surmise and I didn’t stay at a holiday inn express last night, double fuct.

Hauled a trailer for my buddy this morning, now I am getting the ramp truck to help him move some tool boxes and stuff. The trailer was a 1967, had original paint on the axle and underside, minimal rust, brakes worked, one light worked, had to change a tire and the other three made it the entire way. It was a bit sketchy, but he followed me close so no one got in between us, passed a couple of cops, but nothing eventful. I actually had to slow down a couple times after realizing I was doing 65, hauled well for being off the road since 1975.

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That thing looks like a freaking beast. On the carb front, the one thing I'd is the float not working right. In that, I mean it's either fuel logged, or the needle and seat aren't playing well together. If someone butchered a jet, maybe. But Frankencarb might be your whole issue.
 
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I have been office bound, ***** because it has been nice out. Going to try and get out for tomorrow, have a bunch of catching up to do.

Also think I have all my parts for the multi bay disc machine incoming, hopefully I will see it all this week so I can test out my theory. A couple of sellers on eBay (actually think it is the same seller, different name) advertised as located in the US instead of China, so I paid double the price to get them sooner and today I get what appears to be info for international tracking. If this is the case, I am definitely leaving some appropriate feedback. Luckily I found the same cables on Amazon, not sure how I couldn't find them Saturday when I ordered most of my parts, but I have some coming from them as well. I just hope it works, I have essentially stopped doing any more ripping of my media disks except 4K UHD ones, because it just too cumbersome to have two drives in one room and two drives in another room, this should allow me to have 7 drives in one place only using one cable. It will make the TV series DVD collections a lot easier to deal with. Some of the sets have over 30 discs.
 

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I fell into an office day today being consumed with wifi connection issues between a hexacopter and a controller with no video link. Ugh. Reached out for online assistance and still awaiting a reply from a guru. Went outside, hit the garage and fired up my JD140H3 and regraded my driveway for a spring tune up. Wife approves! Day not totally lost to office pain. Back to the Mac later for a sign design to try out a new pantograph to drive the pen and ultimately the router.
 

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Remember the salvage yard in Rolls Mo that I gave you the # for, we have got rebuild carbs from them
for the old Duece and Half and 5 ton's. Havent been around there for 20+ yrs but still there.
 
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Strouty

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Trying to get the summer tires installed on the F-350, they are on a pallet in the Quonset hut. Perfect, I have a forklift, except…..

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Passive aggressive to the extreme. They could have put them right at the front. I am pretty sure they placed the man lift with a forklift, I can’t even Austin Powers my way out of this.
 
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Strouty

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Tires are great, I had to think back, but it was the rear u-joint that was the vibration I was thinking of.

I spent some time messing with my barcode scanner, got that semi figured out, then found a really decent looking program to handle the movies. I have a 15 day trial, after that it is a flat $23, every other “program” I found was a stupid rental/subscription and you weren’t able to export the info you entered. I can’t stand having to rent this type of program. I am super excited (or nervous) to find out if my multi drive ripping machine is going to work, my last parts are supposed to arrive tomorrow. I will be assembling and testing things ASAP, my fingers and toes are crossed that it will work.
 

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Tires are great, I had to think back, but it was the rear u-joint that was the vibration I was thinking of.

I spent some time messing with my barcode scanner, got that semi figured out, then found a really decent looking program to handle the movies. I have a 15 day trial, after that it is a flat $23, every other “program” I found was a stupid rental/subscription and you weren’t able to export the info you entered. I can’t stand having to rent this type of program. I am super excited (or nervous) to find out if my multi drive ripping machine is going to work, my last parts are supposed to arrive tomorrow. I will be assembling and testing things ASAP, my fingers and toes are crossed that it will work.
Good on the tires. Wow on the scanner et. al. I'm impressed that you can put all that together.
 
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Strouty

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Yes it was, I didn't go.

Yesterday had some surprises for me, my Apple Watch started acting up, it was like someone was pushing the buttons without me doing anything, a bit creepy. I tried to turn it off, but the ghost fought me, I gave up, searched google and found that it was a known bug and the watch needed to be updated. No big deal, I tried to update it last night, Apple tells me I have to update my phone first, I hate that, but I do like my watch, so I update. An hour later and the phone is updated, except the touchscreen is no longer a touchscreen, can't access the phone. Back to google, also a known issue, just need to do a forced restart, nope, nothing works. Then it is clear I have to do a complete wipe and fresh install, except the phone won't even show up on my computer when plugged in. So I got less than what I would like for sleep, now I have to go to Apple, luckily they had early appointments available, but both products being essentially bricked in one day is crazy. This is probably my first and worst experience in 20 years of Apple, reminds me of trying to install a new printer on Windows 98...
 
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Strouty

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We are back in business, they did a full wipe of the phone and the watch, and most of my settings were backed up, so only a few adjustments and things to do.

I am headed to the Salvage Garage to get the dump trailer, need it to finally clean up the house yard, all that rain made it a soggy mess and it is just starting to really dry up.
 
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Strouty

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Woohoo!!!

Quick test and my idea has worked, I only have six drives in there right now, but it will do seven, all of them recognized and ripping DVDs as we speak, I don’t see any speed reduction either. Made me feel good about all my efforts, I have three of these units, so I can do this in scale, will have to order more parts and also make my final fitment details, but this is absolutely awesome! Also once I am done, I am willing to bet I can sell them for decent money too.

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Strouty

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Between the CDs, DVDs and Blu Rays, I have probably 3500 discs to deal with. This would make it a lot quicker, it takes longer to load the discs, but once it is setup, you leave and when you come back they are all done, I have been doing three or four at a time and that seems like a never ending thing.
 
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