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Looking over the controls and wiring and it looks like the only thing that I really need to change would be the motor controller and the heating element. Then I can set it up to run off a small VFD and use regular 240 volt single phase power instead of the current 480 volt 3 phase setup. Most everything except the motor and heating element are single phase and rated for 125 volts. The motor can be reconnected to 230 volt 3 phase, so that isn’t an issue. I think it will make a great parts washer for the majority of things I have to clean.

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Ordered a VFD, found a heating element, but want to talk to a couple places before ordering. I think I am going to take out all the electronics, I can't read some of the tags to see what they are without removing them anyways. By doing this, I can replace what needs to be replaced and I can also pressure was the entire unit. Will pull the motor as well so I can take measurements and see what is actually unique about the shaft, it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to swap out the motor if needed, so I may end up making the entire thing single phase, the VFD was so cheap that I figured having it on hand wasn't the worst thing if I don't use it for this project.

Plan for today is to stay at the Hill and try to get a few things actually done. I am going to setup both of the ultrasonic tanks and clean carb parts, while that is going on, I can work on cleaning up the bigger bay so I can get Perk inside. It is time for an inspection sticker and I have a few things that need to get done before it goes for the inspection. Should be an interesting mix today.
 
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As always everything is taking longer than expected. I am picking away at things one at a time. I cleared off enough space to setup both ultrasonic cleaners at once, then cleaned up the sink area, I am slowly working on the individual messes scattered about. I can't keep creating more little messes trying to get some random "urgent" project done. It is going to take me some time to make it happen, going to try and get the main bay usable by this weekend. Unfortunately there is no way to avoid "multitasking", I start to clean up and things either need a home or ten things have ten separate homes that they have to go to, one task turns into twenty. The one thing I will say is that the space I cleared wasn't by just moving the stuff to the top of another pile, so I didn't contribute to the mess even more, I made things better.
 

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Takes a different mindset to do that, but you seem to have that now. Keep your eye on that light, you know the one
at the end of that tunnel.
 

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Just remember that if the light at the end of the tunnel starts alternating left and right, it’s the ditch lights of a locomotive so it’s time to make evasive maneuvers now!
 
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No playing chicken with the train for me!

Apparently when I did my research on the CD duplicators I didn’t do enough, this case is full of IDE drives, I can either adapt the power cables over to the newer style or swap the power supply out. Definitely wasn’t expecting that and I have another one coming that could make two PITA units. Glad I didn’t pay much for them, but still ***** that I didn’t do enough research, usually I do too much. ;)

There is a ten bay unit that is somewhat local, might be the better way for me to go, I know that one has the proper cabling.

Nasty old cables….
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No playing chicken with the train for me!

Apparently when I did my research on the CD duplicators I didn’t do enough, this case is full of IDE drives, I can either adapt the power cables over to the newer style or swap the power supply out. Definitely wasn’t expecting that and I have another one coming that could make two PITA units. Glad I didn’t pay much for them, but still ***** that I didn’t do enough research, usually I do too much. ;)

There is a ten bay unit that is somewhat local, might be the better way for me to go, I know that one has the proper cabling.

Nasty old cables….
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I may have missed it in the stream, but why are you buying CD duplicators? This tech is so old i barely use it anymore. Except when i'm ripping of course.
 
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I am making a multi bay Blu Ray (technically every format) ripping machine. I have tested it with six drives at once, should handle seven. I have thousands of discs that I want to archive, storage drives are so much cheaper these days, I can actually keep high quality versions.
 

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Are you setting it up to do 7 at once or 7 one at a time?

I remember the days of ripping discs. I wish I had the full versions still, not the encoded versions. I used to store up the disc rips and then run the encoding program for a week straight on my work computer when I would go on vacation.
 

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Hope you have a lot of storage with 14 going at once. Your biggest issue might be your fingers hurting from opening all the cases. :lol: Between you and Blake I might have to go pick up some more physical movies again.
 
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I already bought them all...

I currently have 32 Terabytes on a raid 5 NAS, going to expand that to 65 soon. The next hurdle is the redundancy for that, I am thinking about just finding an older server rack unit and setting it up at the Salvage Garage, could be used for backup and security cameras. I think I read somewhere that they just came out with 24 TB hard drives. I am running 18s, I remember when I upgraded to SATA drives from IDE, got he big 500 GB ones too! I bet some of you remember when you upgraded from paper tapes...
 

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I already bought them all...

I currently have 32 Terabytes on a raid 5 NAS, going to expand that to 65 soon. The next hurdle is the redundancy for that, I am thinking about just finding an older server rack unit and setting it up at the Salvage Garage, could be used for backup and security cameras. I think I read somewhere that they just came out with 24 TB hard drives. I am running 18s, I remember when I upgraded to SATA drives from IDE, got he big 500 GB ones too! I bet some of you remember when you upgraded from paper tapes...
Ok that's not going to work. I'm going to have to one up you.. 😉
 

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I already bought them all...

I currently have 32 Terabytes on a raid 5 NAS, going to expand that to 65 soon. The next hurdle is the redundancy for that, I am thinking about just finding an older server rack unit and setting it up at the Salvage Garage, could be used for backup and security cameras. I think I read somewhere that they just came out with 24 TB hard drives. I am running 18s, I remember when I upgraded to SATA drives from IDE, got he big 500 GB ones too! I bet some of you remember when you upgraded from paper tapes...
remember, raid is not backup. it's just high availability. best to have a 2nd box that's your backup that runs once a night or whatever you need to feel safe about. And for the record, i'm just jealous about your Tb level... ;) I have a lot of open spaces in those SC836s.
 
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I agree that I need some sort of redundancy, but raid 5 is definitely better than nothing, I could lose a drive and still recover from it. No matter how I slice it duplicating 65 TBs is going to be fun and a bit costly, luckily I “need” it for my business. I have been playing with encoding the ripped videos and I can get pretty damn good quality with about 10% of the original file size, but using software encoding it takes about 24 hours to do it. I have read that dedicated hardware encoding would be more like two hours, but I am not ready to go there yet. I have been essentially doing one to one backups of all the discs, some of the UHD 4K movies are almost 100 GB. I have to make up some sort of criteria and then a plan for orders of operations, otherwise things will be too hard to keep track of. The barcode scanner and the software I have found will at least make cataloging the media a lot easier. One thing I am trying to do is keep two versions of the media, so if it is available on 4K, I would also keep the Blu Ray version, if only on Blu Ray, then I would also keep the DVD version. The thing that can really mess things up is when they offer some special features that are worth keeping, it can get complicated fast. Originally I was only going to keep the highest quality, but I don’t know if that makes sense, I have a good sized Dropbox account, so I was thinking that if I just used that for DVD iso files (full copy of the disc), then used my NAS and other local sources for the higher quality stuff. The main goal is to create a plex server for as much of the media as possible and get rid of a good amount of the physical discs, saving only the movies that I would watch on a more regular basis. Originally I thought that list wouldn’t be that big, but it is expanding the more I sit and think about what movies get watched more often. I have also been watching old movies again as the 4K versions can be pretty nice upgrades, especially if I jump from DVD or an older encode designed to be on an old iPod video or some other tiny screen device. It is definitely not something for everyone, but I enjoy tinkering with this stuff, I also enjoy movies and TV, but hate commercials, been getting pissed at the streaming services dumping movies and shows too, my plan is to not renew any of them (except YouTube) this fall, we will map out what shows we are interested in and only pay for one service at a time. Also going back to the antenna, it is far better picture than what we currently get through most of the streaming services anyways.
 
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I helped pull the engine out of one of my Brother’s bucket trucks tonight, he is going to get another engine tomorrow, trying to get it back together before Dad gets home, the truck is in Dad’s shop and he is coming home in five days. Fun stuff!

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Tomorrow morning I am going to look at a couple Clark Ranger 4x4 forklifts, probably won’t end up with them, but who knows, the owner is 86 and says he probably won’t get around to fixing them. :)
 

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I agree that I need some sort of redundancy, but raid 5 is definitely better than nothing, I could lose a drive and still recover from it. No matter how I slice it duplicating 65 TBs is going to be fun and a bit costly, luckily I “need” it for my business. I have been playing with encoding the ripped videos and I can get pretty damn good quality with about 10% of the original file size, but using software encoding it takes about 24 hours to do it. I have read that dedicated hardware encoding would be more like two hours, but I am not ready to go there yet. I have been essentially doing one to one backups of all the discs, some of the UHD 4K movies are almost 100 GB. I have to make up some sort of criteria and then a plan for orders of operations, otherwise things will be too hard to keep track of. The barcode scanner and the software I have found will at least make cataloging the media a lot easier. One thing I am trying to do is keep two versions of the media, so if it is available on 4K, I would also keep the Blu Ray version, if only on Blu Ray, then I would also keep the DVD version. The thing that can really mess things up is when they offer some special features that are worth keeping, it can get complicated fast. Originally I was only going to keep the highest quality, but I don’t know if that makes sense, I have a good sized Dropbox account, so I was thinking that if I just used that for DVD iso files (full copy of the disc), then used my NAS and other local sources for the higher quality stuff. The main goal is to create a plex server for as much of the media as possible and get rid of a good amount of the physical discs, saving only the movies that I would watch on a more regular basis. Originally I thought that list wouldn’t be that big, but it is expanding the more I sit and think about what movies get watched more often. I have also been watching old movies again as the 4K versions can be pretty nice upgrades, especially if I jump from DVD or an older encode designed to be on an old iPod video or some other tiny screen device. It is definitely not something for everyone, but I enjoy tinkering with this stuff, I also enjoy movies and TV, but hate commercials, been getting pissed at the streaming services dumping movies and shows too, my plan is to not renew any of them (except YouTube) this fall, we will map out what shows we are interested in and only pay for one service at a time. Also going back to the antenna, it is far better picture than what we currently get through most of the streaming services anyways.
Don't do what i did. Ignore backups. I have raid volumes too, scrubbed nightly. I still lost 3 years of emails because i had no backups in a different node. I don't typically backup special features because they can live on the disc in the storage shelf. If i need it that bad, i'll go get the disk.
I'm doing the same thing as you, media storage on NAS, for quick and easy retrieval.
The tough thing with the backup is needing to buy 2X the drives. It is what it is.
Are you on r/Datahoarder?

Hope you get it all sorted.
 
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I haven’t been on that group, but have read some posts from it. Will check it out at some point. Plan is to get rid of a lot of my discs, no way do I want to try and store all of them in physical form. I find with the special features that I will never go to the physical media and think that I want to watch it, but when it is digitized, I will take the lazy route. It is only time and money, right?
 
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I know this is a long shot, but does anyone remember my fancy barcode scanner that I had? I can't seem to figure out where I put it, I am sure it is somewhere, thought I might try and see if I can make it work. Was thinking it might be better for what I am doing, could also be worse, but I wanted to try. So if you remember where I put it, speak up...
 

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That backfired, I found a bunch of stuff that I wasn't looking for, now I have more stuff to go through. :(

I am almost thinking that I brought the barcode scanner to the Hill, I am sure it will turn up at some point, or it will never turn up and I will always wonder where it went off to.
Don't forget c. You buy another one and then immediately find the original. Repeat until you have 5 of them. That's the track I'm on...
 

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I am almost thinking that I brought the barcode scanner to the Hill, I am sure it will turn up at some point, or it will never turn up and I will always wonder where it went off to.
I am well familiar with that. I'm still looking for my borescope that went awol a couple of years ago.
 
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I had already bought a new one, so I am one step ahead of the game.

This one was a lot more advanced, more of a stand alone computer (probably windows CE or like), but the new one is dead nuts simple and so far works well. I may end up buying another one to keep at the Salvage Garage, I am going to setup a bit more advanced storage system along the way. I feel that tripping over everything is not the way to go, but just labeling a tote isn't either, I need to have an easy way to label and show contents. The good thing is that my phone can double as the scanner, it just isn't as fast, but will work fine. Basically going to create inventory barcodes and some QR codes for bins. I have been watching how some of the medium sized eBay sellers are doing it and I think it would work for my random stuff too.
 

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If you want us to track your gak, we’re going to need lots more shop and grounds imagery, plus meta data to catalog, if we’re going to be of much help. /sarc.
 
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I am not sure that anyone would really want to help with that anyways, it would make most people angry...

I just placed a $300 order on Aliexpress, first time order, paid with PayPal, guess I will see how it goes. I found the exact adapters that I needed for my multi bay rippers, will make things much cleaner, I ordered enough to do everything and a couple spares. I figured I have so much going on right now, waiting for shipments from China isn't going to hurt too bad. It will give me a chance to get myself caught up with the sorting and cataloging. The sellers were reputable and the shipments were being handled by ali express rather than a third party, at least that was what it said when I was looking at the parts. It would have cost me several hundred more to buy something that worked, but not as cleanly. I will still have the stuff I already purchased as backups and for other projects. Fingers crossed the stuff arrives.
 

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I have ordered stuff on Alibaba, basically the same company as Ali express, and both shipments worked just fine for me. It usually takes a few weeks, sometimes longer. Clearing customs out of China does take some time.
I actually supervise people in China, and was just over there 2 weeks ago. They do have a holiday coming up in May 1-5, which will delay everything going through customs.

Any progress on the shop/hill cleanup to keep your dad from blowing a head gasket?
 
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Some of the stuff I “found” today was my more important VHS tapes and some old Law and Order Emmy consideration DVD sets, I don’t even think they hand out discs anymore for that stuff. The VHS tapes are worth a bundle, not sure I even want to sell them though. I have one that was never technically released to the public, it was for the skate shops to play on a TV to advertise Powell Peralta. I can’t even find any previously sold ones, definitely curious about that one’s value. Not including that promo tape I have the first 14 VHS tapes, not even sure if they released the rest on VHS or not. I know I have another 40 or 50 VHS tapes that I need to go through, most are very collectible and the best part is most of those are not ones I even care about, so they can be sold. I am planning on recording them to DVD first, that way I can at least keep a copy for nostalgic purposes.
 
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Good info Kent, as for Dad, he blew a head gasket yesterday when I told him I was only moving forward with things if we sat down with my Brother and Stepmother as well. He should be back next week, so far almost everyday this month has either had some sort of storm issues or tower issue or leasing/site meeting. Today I had to spend 2/3 of it at a tower site working with a crew to fix a damaged antenna before it fell and damaged more antennas. I still have a list of things that need to be done, but Thursday I have a meeting with a local municipality about putting equipment on one of our towers and the possibility of building a new tower with them on town property at the other end of town. Then Fridaybi have the meeting with the insurance company so we can figure things out for future issues, apparently when Dad started the original policy they specifically excluded docks, piers, wharfs, and floats. So we get to eat about $10k worth of damage to the docks. Probably won’t even replace them at this point, but it still *****. I am sure there will be another issue or three before Dad gets back. :(
 

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I have ordered stuff on Alibaba, basically the same company as Ali express, and both shipments worked just fine for me. It usually takes a few weeks, sometimes longer. Clearing customs out of China does take some time.
I actually supervise people in China, and was just over there 2 weeks ago. They do have a holiday coming up in May 1-5, which will delay everything going through customs.

Any progress on the shop/hill cleanup to keep your dad from blowing a head gasket?
Good to know. It explains why there is a huge hole in my china delivery dates.
 
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