Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Today I hope to get the 3500 so it runs again, still have to deal with the fenders, but if it will drive, I can get it out of the shop and use the lift again. I would like to try and get the Volvo figured out, it also needs a brake check over, for some reason it has lost the pedal after being parked for a while. I would assume there was a leak in one of the fittings I had worked on, so I need to look all that over again.
Have to adjust my plans, my help canceled on me, going to co tiny forward with trying to get things organized at the Hill. Also have to unload the sprayers and see if they work, I bought them cheap enough that I didn’t really care, the parts were worth it. I do know the one with the gas motor runs, I started it this morning and it did pump a small bit of water out of the hose. The seller seemed honest enough and like I said, the price was right. So, once again, change the plans and keep moving forward.
Thanks for the info.
Today was supposed to be nice out, I did some office work, then when I went outside, it was raining? Radar shows nothing, forecast shows 5% chance, guess they are technically correct. Just enough to be annoying, everything that was almost dry isn’t anymore. Hopefully it actually stops and dries up, I would like to unload the sprayers and test them so I know if I need to order any parts. I guess I will do some more stuff inside the shop for n hopes that the rain stops.
Today was supposed to be nice out, I did some office work, then when I went outside, it was raining? Radar shows nothing, forecast shows 5% chance, guess they are technically correct. Just enough to be annoying, everything that was almost dry isn’t anymore. Hopefully it actually stops and dries up, I would like to unload the sprayers and test them so I know if I need to order any parts. I guess I will do some more stuff inside the shop for n hopes that the rain stops.
This space is killing me, I have tried to make it usable and I just can’t get any combination of things to work. Thought I had it all figured out, but then realized that by the time I am done it will be near impossible to access the conduits and I do not want to do that. The box is 52” from edge to edge and the thing I want to put there is 48” wide. I was just going to make up a framework to support it, but it will make removing the cover a real PITA. Then I thought I would make a wall mount, nope, the wall has a flair that isn’t even remotely close to the concrete. I think at this point I am going to disassemble the shelving unit and use other shelves to widen it out so it clears the gap completely, I can then bring the shelf up enough to have full access with relative ease, I will also be able to store my adjustable stands next to it.
My main hurdles are that I am trying to keep it so I can walk around the lift post without having to contort myself and I am not a little guy, so more space is better. I thought about moving the Lista storage wall over the opening, but I would lose a lot more access and the gap between the post would be tighttttt. I am just going to do it, this will be just like last weekend, but it will be worth it in the end. If I had a touch more room I could almost bolt two of the 30” shelves together and brace them to get enough strength, but I do not think I can make that work.
The space in question:
The shelving unit I want to put there:
I am going to take a few more measurements and see if I am missing something. The funny part is that there is absolutely no reason why that pit should be 52”. It could have been 40” and had tons of room, plus it would have made my life so much easier today! The nerve.
My main hurdles are that I am trying to keep it so I can walk around the lift post without having to contort myself and I am not a little guy, so more space is better. I thought about moving the Lista storage wall over the opening, but I would lose a lot more access and the gap between the post would be tighttttt. I am just going to do it, this will be just like last weekend, but it will be worth it in the end. If I had a touch more room I could almost bolt two of the 30” shelves together and brace them to get enough strength, but I do not think I can make that work.
The space in question:
The shelving unit I want to put there:
I am going to take a few more measurements and see if I am missing something. The funny part is that there is absolutely no reason why that pit should be 52”. It could have been 40” and had tons of room, plus it would have made my life so much easier today! The nerve.
Not what I want to do, but if I have enough shelves, combing the 30” ones will work, but, yup of course, I would need to move the shallower Lista Storage wall over 3” towards the light switch. I have already tried to brute force it and it will need to be pretty much completely unloaded. I am not sure what is worse, the good thing about combining the two 30” shelves is that I will gain a foot of shelf space for storage and that is a good thing.
I got all my pieces together, one shelf will need to be fabricated more than the others, I needed 7 shelves and I only had 12 of the 30" wide ones, but I have some 36" ones that I can use to make the last one. I am going to make up one and test it for strength, I don't want to go through this entire process and find out that it won't work for the intended purpose. Most likely going to weld everything together, could bolt it, but will have to drill a bunch of holes and I won't be taking it apart, at least if I do, the shelves would stay intact. I wish I had more uprights, I could build a new setup without taking the old one apart, but I haven't found any that are over 4 feet and that is too short. I don't think I have any at the SG, but I can always assemble the shelves today and take a peek around for more uprights. The four foot wide unit is all bolted together, so it could be moved as one piece easily. I guess I could eld together some uprights. I am going to have to see how motivated I am. It is still misting outside and I would rather be doing stuff outside. Oh well.
I didn’t get sidetracked, I just started to do smaller tasks to clean things up so I wasn’t tripping over stupid projects.
I did unload both sprayers and tested them, one doesn’t have a spray nozzle, so I couldn’t test pressure, but I did get water to flow. Both reels work nicely, unfortunately the 12 volt pump is leaking and the case is rusty enough that I suspect it won’t last long anyways. I am pricing out a new one now. Also think a small pressure tank might be a good idea so the pump is t running the entire time. It just bypasses and runs continuously. I didn’t try shutting off the bypass valve, that might actually do what i want (there was a pressure switch). I will try that and report back.
I did unload both sprayers and tested them, one doesn’t have a spray nozzle, so I couldn’t test pressure, but I did get water to flow. Both reels work nicely, unfortunately the 12 volt pump is leaking and the case is rusty enough that I suspect it won’t last long anyways. I am pricing out a new one now. Also think a small pressure tank might be a good idea so the pump is t running the entire time. It just bypasses and runs continuously. I didn’t try shutting off the bypass valve, that might actually do what i want (there was a pressure switch). I will try that and report back.
The 12 volt one shuts off when you close the bypass valve, then turns back on because it leaks out of the pump.
The pump is under $200, not bad for what it does. I also need to see about spray nozzles. The new pump might have larger fittings, so I will end up having to mess with that part. The hose is not exactly the best either, but I am sure it will be fine for what I am doing.
The gas one has a Honda engine, needs a carb, muffler, air cleaner, oil change, and gas tank drained. It starts up nicely and ran decent considering you need the choke on 3/4s of the way. The hose on that one is worse, some areas have the braids exposed and it has been that way for a while.
I am not really sure what one I am going to keep, I like the idea of the 12 volt one, nice and quiet. Most likely add a second battery, or hook it up to the vehicle battery. I just need to use it and see how long it will spray before it runs the battery down. Might be perfectly capable of doing what I need it to do, might not.
The pump is under $200, not bad for what it does. I also need to see about spray nozzles. The new pump might have larger fittings, so I will end up having to mess with that part. The hose is not exactly the best either, but I am sure it will be fine for what I am doing.
The gas one has a Honda engine, needs a carb, muffler, air cleaner, oil change, and gas tank drained. It starts up nicely and ran decent considering you need the choke on 3/4s of the way. The hose on that one is worse, some areas have the braids exposed and it has been that way for a while.
I am not really sure what one I am going to keep, I like the idea of the 12 volt one, nice and quiet. Most likely add a second battery, or hook it up to the vehicle battery. I just need to use it and see how long it will spray before it runs the battery down. Might be perfectly capable of doing what I need it to do, might not.
TwoBytes
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Can you put a divider in there and pour 12" of concrete? Or make a 2 piece lid, so you can sit the shelving on top of one end?
I did think about doing some sort of divider, but there are a few things that kind of get in the way, so it becomes a cumbersome mess. I think making the shelves wider is the way to go, I did a little more looking and I think I can just put the stands on the other side of the shop, I planned on using that space for the oil drain as well. I think things are going to change with that as well. I did some measuring and I may move my toolbox around a bit. I would really like to add a section of pallet racking along the front wall, so I may do some more figuring over the next day or so.
I am glad I picked up the two sprayers, he had a third that I could have bought as well, but it was a smaller tank and he wanted a lot more money for it. Looks like I will probably have $2k into both after buying all the new parts I need, most of them I see are in that ballpark, but either don’t have the electric hose reel or have some other issues. I did find a decently priced one, but it was about a 5 hour drive one way. I think I can get everything sprayed in the next week or so, I really don’t need much to make the gas powered unit work, at least that is what I hope. I want to try them both out with the sprayer attached tomorrow and see what the differences between the two are, I would assume that the gas powered one would have more pressure, but it might not matter for this application. The 12 volt one has the 200 gallon tank and that will probably be enough to let me spray all four tower sites, but I won’t know until I test things. The gas powered one is only 100 gallon tank, I could also make a hybrid of the two and have multiple tanks, one could be for pesticides and the other for herbicides. I think that is probably overkill, but it was a thought.
I have a couple office tasks to do, then I can finish loading the scrap steel and take that in, I have more steel to load this week, better grade and I don't want to mix them. This morning was about 45 degrees and they are saying Wednesday will be in the low 90s, I am not ready for that kind of temps, not at all.
I am going to the local Honda Dealer to confirm what engine I have on the sprayer, also going to the local distributor for the Lesco sprayers and talk with them about supplies and parts. I have a feeling they will be really high priced on the parts, but the chemicals won't be as bad. I need some knowledge anyways, so even if I pay a little too much, it isn't going to be a total loss. In the future if it is cheaper to buy online, I will go that route, not like this is going to be my full time job.
I am going to the local Honda Dealer to confirm what engine I have on the sprayer, also going to the local distributor for the Lesco sprayers and talk with them about supplies and parts. I have a feeling they will be really high priced on the parts, but the chemicals won't be as bad. I need some knowledge anyways, so even if I pay a little too much, it isn't going to be a total loss. In the future if it is cheaper to buy online, I will go that route, not like this is going to be my full time job.
So far things have not gone as expected. I am just getting out to do errands, but I have all the paperwork for registering three trailers and the 3500 truck. I needed to do this and since I was going to the City Hall, it made more sense to do it all at once. The scrap steel is loaded and ready to go, office paperwork is done for today, errands will probably absorb most of the afternoon.
Honda can't tell me what part numbers I need even with the serial number off the engine, there are four or five carburetor options, a few muffler options, and a couple air filter options. I guess I am going to have to do a bit of my own research. The local place that sells the Lesco brand sprayers doesn't have a clue about anything, couldn't answer even simple questions. Then the guy with the forklifts that was interested in a swap deal is all pissed off at me, says I broke my word. I am still trying to figure out what he thinks we agreed to, I reread everything and aside from him telling me what he wants, I didn't see any indication that I "made a deal". I did the research and his units just aren't worth the upgrade cost he is asking for. Neither one of them run without tinkering and he wants $15k each. As recently as April these are selling for under $10k in running condition, some as cheap as $7k. He is adamant that he paid $30k for the pair, if he harasses me anymore I will just ask him to show the receipts, he knows the guy I bought the forklifts from and could easily confirm how much I paid. I am not saying he is lying, but if he really has $30k in them, I do feel bad, but not bad enough to give him my two units and $15k in cash. 
Allenw
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Farm Chem, Spray Parts Warehouse, Ag Spray Parts, Spray Smarter. I've used all of these places at different times for sprayer parts with no problems.
I ordered some parts for the spray rigs, none of the important parts, just quick disconnects and a couple different spray guns. I was looking over my "supplies" at the Salvage Garage and I had two hose reels from way back, they appear to be the proper hose and wider reels, I would guess they hold more hose. I am also thinking that I will be building a spray rig that will better suit my needs using components from one of the two units, still leaning towards the 12 volt one. I would have two tanks, a larger one for fresh water and a smaller one for the mixed chemicals. Had a long discussion with Jackstand yesterday about the amount of chemical I would need and I think that having 100 gallons is probably a bad idea, I could always add more water, but not having a fresh water tank or water source would mean I have to drag one with me anyways. If I set this up properly I can hold a couple hundred gallons of fresh water, then have a 35 gallon mix tank (or something like that). This would mean I would waste less chemicals and not have to worry about shelf life of the mix. That is the current theory anyways. If I do it properly, I can have two separate pumps and hose reels, one for just water and one for weed killer or other chemical. I would just use a couple deep cycle batteries wired in parallel to get the more capacity, then I can setup a charging cable to charge the batteries while on the road. I think that would give me the best of both worlds, it would not break the bank, and I can sell the gas powered one. I am still working through the thought process, so input or criticism is welcome.
I also made an executive decision on the utility body for the 3500, I started looking at a bit better ones and found an aluminum Duramag unit. It is in very good shape, but it was significantly more expensive than I originally wanted to spend. I made a deal with the seller and should be picking that up Friday night. It has roll up doors, nice for tight space access, but you lose the added work surface of the two over the wheel doors that would normally fold down flat. Not the end of the world, the boxes are shallower due to the single wheel style, but you get 49" by 97" in the bed area. It even has a rugged aluminum rack that they built, not fancy tig welds, but it will be fine. Here are a couple pictures:
I had ordered a nice molded trailer connector a while back, had to use it on the new trailer, current wiring was for a 6 pin setup and I use all 7 flat RV style plugs for this size trailer. Apparently they can use the proper colors, but they can’t make them in the proper positions.
I spent a bunch of extra time reworking things and figuring out what colors corresponded with the functions. Then the right rear lights weren’t working, I went in and cut out the cancer and then put it back together, tested it and they worked. Except a few minutes later they didn’t work, I went back in and found one of the wires was essentially disintegrated inside the jacket, I had to cut it back several times before finding a section that seemed somewhat normal. Now all the lights work and almost all the brakes work, pretty sure they will all work, there was a disconnected wire on one side, I just ran out of daylight and the mosquitoes were trying to carry me away.
I am going to run it as is for a little while and see what happens, I am not real happy with my “fix”, the wires are all black and appear to have gotten hot at some point. I will have to redo the junction box at the front and add a new battery/break away setup, also needs some reflective tape along the side. It hauls really well, but the pintle hitch is really sloppy, I have everything to rework it into a 2 5/16” ball, that will take most all the slop and noise out of it.
I spent a bunch of extra time reworking things and figuring out what colors corresponded with the functions. Then the right rear lights weren’t working, I went in and cut out the cancer and then put it back together, tested it and they worked. Except a few minutes later they didn’t work, I went back in and found one of the wires was essentially disintegrated inside the jacket, I had to cut it back several times before finding a section that seemed somewhat normal. Now all the lights work and almost all the brakes work, pretty sure they will all work, there was a disconnected wire on one side, I just ran out of daylight and the mosquitoes were trying to carry me away.
I am going to run it as is for a little while and see what happens, I am not real happy with my “fix”, the wires are all black and appear to have gotten hot at some point. I will have to redo the junction box at the front and add a new battery/break away setup, also needs some reflective tape along the side. It hauls really well, but the pintle hitch is really sloppy, I have everything to rework it into a 2 5/16” ball, that will take most all the slop and noise out of it.
I have a couple hours to kill before my meeting, then after that I have scheduled to put what is left of the docks in at the camps, supposed to be about 90, so I figured that would actually be kind of nice.
I had a conversation with my Stepmother yesterday, it was not what I would say was encouraging, basically she thinks that I am overpaid and that I need to remember that, she also agrees with Dad that I need to remove everything that is stored outside on top of the Hill and the stuff at the bottom of the Hill as well. Guess we have the ultimate answer on what is happening this year. What I thought would be an ally isn't and her attitude was that I had no right to put trucks up there and make it look like a junkyard. The only thing I told her was that I had the lease that specifically states what I can have and where I can put it. She didn't even listen to what I was saying. At this point I know what is expected and how I have to move forward to protect myself. I CAN'T burry my head in the sand any longer, I am just relieved I didn't build that custom shelving unit yet!
I had a conversation with my Stepmother yesterday, it was not what I would say was encouraging, basically she thinks that I am overpaid and that I need to remember that, she also agrees with Dad that I need to remove everything that is stored outside on top of the Hill and the stuff at the bottom of the Hill as well. Guess we have the ultimate answer on what is happening this year. What I thought would be an ally isn't and her attitude was that I had no right to put trucks up there and make it look like a junkyard. The only thing I told her was that I had the lease that specifically states what I can have and where I can put it. She didn't even listen to what I was saying. At this point I know what is expected and how I have to move forward to protect myself. I CAN'T burry my head in the sand any longer, I am just relieved I didn't build that custom shelving unit yet!
kaymccampbell
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Run, Forrest, run!I have a couple hours to kill before my meeting, then after that I have scheduled to put what is left of the docks in at the camps, supposed to be about 90, so I figured that would actually be kind of nice.
I had a conversation with my Stepmother yesterday, it was not what I would say was encouraging, basically she thinks that I am overpaid and that I need to remember that, she also agrees with Dad that I need to remove everything that is stored outside on top of the Hill and the stuff at the bottom of the Hill as well. Guess we have the ultimate answer on what is happening this year. What I thought would be an ally isn't and her attitude was that I had no right to put trucks up there and make it look like a junkyard. The only thing I told her was that I had the lease that specifically states what I can have and where I can put it. She didn't even listen to what I was saying. At this point I know what is expected and how I have to move forward to protect myself. I CAN'T burry my head in the sand any longer, I am just relieved I didn't build that custom shelving unit yet!
Yup, I am going to be scrambling, but timing is good so I will have the best chance to make a clean break. I already started working things out the last time this happened so I have a bit of a game plan. I am looking into the auctions to see when the next semi local one is. I may take some things down to Massachusetts as well. My plan is to cease doing anything at the Hill that isn't related to office work or me moving my stuff out. Not going to do anything to the house, shop, grounds, or road, not one thing until I have everything outside gone and the entire house cleaned out. I am going to need to move the Mitsu back to the Salvage Garage for some of the cleanup over there. I have to pull the rams off the Army dump at the Hill before it will be movable. The conex is going to be the most annoying thing, lots of stuff on shelves that I will have to move before I can take it over. I think that if I do some preliminary work I should be able to move it without removing the cabinets and shelves. I can probably even have things on the floor in boxes and bins. It might not be as bad as I think, could be worse...
kent_323is
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Focus on the vehicles outside first.... I think this needs to be about damage control first to buy you as much time as possible. They see it as a junkyard, so focus on that aspect first. The conex, as long as the doors are closed, is likely not a problem compared to the vehicles.
Are you willing to share some broad outside pics of current state at the hill? We all love to share our opinions, but that outside perspective might be able to focus you on the 1st vehicles to move that improve the appearance the most.
I think if you can make even a bit of progress on this front, you'll likely keep your dad from blowing up and maybe the stepmother backs off a bit too.
Regardless, good luck, and we hope to see lots of pics of vehicles being moved, knuckleboom and trailers being leveraged!
shakenfake
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How many vehicles are even at the Hill? My grandmother says that our house looks like a junkyard because I have 5 vehicles there although 3 can't be seen from the street (2 garaged and 1 in the carport) with only 2 in our 6 car driveway...
However I imagine that your situation really might look like a junkyard with what I have seen you purchase.
However I imagine that your situation really might look like a junkyard with what I have seen you purchase.
shakenfake
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I need to know what that garage looks like on the inside.
jack stand
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How many boats hanging around does it take to be a junkyard?
kaymccampbell
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At least we know you didn't get it from the ground.
My grandfather was worse, I am not saying that what I have isn’t junk, I just try to keep things a bit more orderly than Dad does. He also doesn’t like to get rid of obvious junk, I am not that way, if I am done with it, I will get rid of it. Time and help have been my biggest issues, at this point I have to make the time and hope the help sorts itself out.
jack stand
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There's a difference between junk and parts inventory. 
What's up with the 2 pole/ lineman 4x4 trucks?
What's up with the 2 pole/ lineman 4x4 trucks?
I. Finally took the scrap load from over a week ago to the yard, $59!!!
It was light iron, so I really didn’t expect much, better than paying to get rid of it.
I talked to them about equipment and other things, they said as long as I make a decent attempt to drain things, they will take them complete. They do deduct for tires, but it isn’t like I want to deal with them anyways.
Scheduled to pick up the utility body tomorrow morning, probably try and get a couple pieces of scrap over to the yard as well. I have a couple fairly heavy chunks that need to go away. Then I need to start making my plans for tearing apart things to get the pieces and parts I want off them before the carcasses go to the scrap yard.
It was light iron, so I really didn’t expect much, better than paying to get rid of it.
I talked to them about equipment and other things, they said as long as I make a decent attempt to drain things, they will take them complete. They do deduct for tires, but it isn’t like I want to deal with them anyways.
Scheduled to pick up the utility body tomorrow morning, probably try and get a couple pieces of scrap over to the yard as well. I have a couple fairly heavy chunks that need to go away. Then I need to start making my plans for tearing apart things to get the pieces and parts I want off them before the carcasses go to the scrap yard.
xtremek
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I like the way this plan sounds. Hopefully things go s*o*thly for you. Being a little cryptic because I don't want to jinx it for you.