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Yup, one bite at a time. I just wish I had better time management skills, going to have to work on that for sure. I think a lot of things are just severely under estimated on my part. Today there were a couple things that I thought were going to take way too long and they had been bugging me for literal years, took about 1 minute to fix one and half an hour to fix another one. I guess I wish I had messed with them a long time ago. Then I had some other stuff that I thought should take a couple hours, three and a half days later things were "done", but not totally and there will be some future repairs that need to be done.

I guess I am going home, I need to be at the Salvage Garage early to try and get a few things done before it rains. I am dreading dealing with all the bins full of **** that had to get moved so that I could move all the storage/shelving around. I am now at the point that it can't be avoided and if it rains, it will be a good use of the time.
 
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This morning’s bite has a lot of chewing, had to cut off part of the rack that was in the Hyster forklift so I could attach the parts that hold the fork pins in, I forgot about how bent up it was, going to have to narrow the other one if I want it on the forks for the bridge crane trip. I had to clean out some of the threaded holes with a tap, so everything took a lot longer. I am almost back to where I thought I was going to be about an hour ago.
 
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At the Salvage Garage, looks like most of the day is going to be rain free (now it is sure to rain!), I am going to finish moving stuff out of the way so I can pull out the extendable trailer and unload it. Going to try and get all the big stuff ready for the trip, then work on all the small stuff.
 
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Got everything moved out of the way, started up the yard donkey to move the trailer, big air leak, can't even get it to build enough pressure to release the parking brakes. Guess I will have to mess with that sooner than expected. Of course it is sprinkling and looks like I don't have a lot of time before the rain actually hits, so I am going to work around this and put the Muv-All somewhere out of the way and hook Perk up just to get the trailer out. I had actually figured I was going to have time to move this trailer out and get it unloaded, then put the forks on the BFF, starting to look like I might just get the trailer pulled out.

On top of that, the bridge crane guy is telling me I might have to delay a week, but he isn't sure, should know by the end of today, I am not sure I will have help for the next weekend and I don't want to ask until I know that things are changing. Talk about stressful.
 

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On top of that, the bridge crane guy is telling me I might have to delay a week, but he isn't sure, should know by the end of today, I am not sure I will have help for the next weekend and I don't want to ask until I know that things are changing. Talk about stressful.
That could work in your favor. That's another week to get where you want to be. Time to fix the air leak, move and unload trailer etc.
 

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Candidly, not sure who is helping you, but I would recommend communicating with them as soon as possible. They may have schedule that allow for changing thing with advance notice.

I can tell you, that for me, I'm better off if people let me know something has a chance of canceling or changing instead of that being dropped on me at the last moment.

At least by communicating, you will find out if you have help or not. Then you can decide if you need to push back on the crane guy or accept the schedule delay. But at least you'll have more info to plan accordingly.... rather than hoping in one hand and crapping in the other....which fills up quicker?

Regardless, good progress on the punch list. Keep at it and don't get distracted! Lol
 
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I heard back and it has to be at least the next weekend, really going to eff things up, I talked to him a few minutes ago and he said he would talk to the buyer of the building to see if we can extend things a bit. Could work in my favor and give me two weekends to remove it. Always fun!
 
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I guess I was scattered yesterday, didn’t even finish my sentence.

I am going to try and resolve things today with the bridge crane. I have a hand written agreement that spells everything out pretty clearly, both of us signed it and the specific removal dates are all on it, I haven’t changed my end of the deal. I guess we will get to see what kind of person he actually is.
 

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I guess I was scattered yesterday, didn’t even finish my sentence.

I am going to try and resolve things today with the bridge crane. I have a hand written agreement that spells everything out pretty clearly, both of us signed it and the specific removal dates are all on it, I haven’t changed my end of the deal. I guess we will get to see what kind of person he actually is.
Be careful here, there’s a chance you get him to stick to the original deal, then you may need an extra day or something.
 
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I just spoke with him and he is saying that it is the original deal or nothing, so now I have to get things figured out and make sure no one made new plans. I am still slightly worried that it is going to become a cluster fack, but I am going to push forward anyways.
 
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Now I am at the Salvage Garage removing the rub rail on the extendable trailer so I can cut out the wheel arches to clear the newer tires. The 10R 17.5 were supposed to be a direct replacement for the old tube style 15” ones, but I suspect the new rims have a bit wider offset and that is where my trouble is. Eventually I am redoing this trailer and I will widen the deck to 102” it is 96” with the rub rail right now.

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After looking at things, I decided that cutting out the side over the wheel is the best way to get it done, not going to use the torch again though, should be able to use the metal circular saw and make decent cuts.

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I cleaned up the control valves for the side shift, not sure if I am going to use the two spool valve or the one spool valve, if I can fit the two in the space it would offer the ability to do two functions. After cleaning things up, I am a bit concerned that the side shift ram is full of water, the valve absolutely was. :(

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Almost loaded for the fact finding mission, have to go alone, everyone abandoned me...

I need to get as much info on measurements and all the splice joints so I know what I am really up against with the removal next weekend. I suspect it is going to be a long night, nothing new.
 
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If my trailer was 102" wide it wouldn't be too bad looking, but the extendable trailer is only 96" wide, so it would hang over about 8" on each side. Part of the length is the bump stops and those can just be cut off, then the wheels can be unbolted, this would probably get me to within an inch or two. I am already pushing things as the Hyster is an inch or two over height too...
 
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It might be the best option, we are bringing a welder and torches, I guess I could bring some sacrificial steel to use as well. The top is only five feet wide and it is about 6' tall, so I do have some wiggle room. Thanks for the input.
 
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If my math is correct, it would need to have one side elevated a little under 4'. I am going to have to do a bit more math to see if the top part would end up either too high or sticking out too far to the side. Could be removing the bump stops and then tilting it a bit would get it much closer, I think the bump stops would shave off about 4" (total) or so.
 
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Looks like I left one of my notebooks with the bridge crane, either that or it is on the side of the road somewhere. Luckily it is more of a sentimental value than actual info that I need. The one thing that was in it was a scale drawing of the rail profile, but the measurements are in my other pad. Luckily the rail happens to be fairly common and I have some of it in stock. At least now I can figure out the best way to pick it up, only thing I am not happy about is that the pieces are about 30' long, I was hopeful that they would be 20' like everything else.
 
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So much for the same size track, can't even find one that is close to the equivalent by size. The profile of the one I have is pretty close, but the web on the one under the bridge crane is 0.19" and the one I have is 0.35". The bases are a different width and the heights are different as well. Based on the dimensions, I can probably use the rail I have as a sample for weight and picking and I won't be too far off, the web thickness alone would make the one I am getting lighter. The profile is very close, with my sample one being a bit larger.
 
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Listed out all the beams and parts for the bridge crane, still not sure on the hoist, but for now I am guessing it weighs about 1500 pounds. After figuring 500 pounds for the cradle, I come out to 7960 pounds and I know I overestimated all the steel beams. Should be good to go, even at 30" load center. The good thing is we get a practice run while over the rails, so if it doesn't seem like things are going well, we can regroup and remove the hoist first.

I need to make a spreader bar now to pick the rails, they are about 30' long, wasn't expecting that at all, thought they would be closer to 20'. I am trying to figure out if my aluminum channel iron will work, I have a 25' piece I can cut in half and then make up some rigging plates to go in between the two pieces. I up sized that for the estimation and got a weight of about 10 pounds per foot, so it isn't that heavy, just not sure if it will turn into a wet noodle when trying to lift it.
 
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I found a 12' I-Beam that already has lifting eyes welded to it, just need to make some provisions for shackles or something at the ends to catch the rails, this can also be used to lift the 20' beams that the rails sit on and I don't have to use my nice aluminum channel. I am trying to figure out the cradle now, I think it would be good to have it 8' 6" wide, so it will fit easily on the trailer, the main supports will match the fork width, then I can add some stabilizing supports out further. The plan is to have this be double duty, once the bridge is down it will become a cart to set the 20' sections on, then it can be rolled outside through the door making that part much easier. Also figuring I am going to make a set of wheels for one side of the bridge crane so it can be hauled out the same way, more like a trailer. I know I can get the pieces out by shuffling back and forth, but I also know that this will be much easier and every bit of time is going to be precious.
 

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I found a 12' I-Beam that already has lifting eyes welded to it, just need to make some provisions for shackles or something at the ends to catch the rails, this can also be used to lift the 20' beams that the rails sit on and I don't have to use my nice aluminum channel. I am trying to figure out the cradle now, I think it would be good to have it 8' 6" wide, so it will fit easily on the trailer, the main supports will match the fork width, then I can add some stabilizing supports out further. The plan is to have this be double duty, once the bridge is down it will become a cart to set the 20' sections on, then it can be rolled outside through the door making that part much easier. Also figuring I am going to make a set of wheels for one side of the bridge crane so it can be hauled out the same way, more like a trailer. I know I can get the pieces out by shuffling back and forth, but I also know that this will be much easier and every bit of time is going to be precious.
Sounds like it's all coming together. The wheels on one side of the bridge crane ought to be a serious time saver.
 
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I sure hope so.

I have been assembling my to do list and it is getting scary. I don't really have help tomorrow, but I have plenty to do anyways, I got the gang box down from the pallet rack. Need to unload that, then start loading it back up.
 
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It isn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be. The front channel is pretty much held together by a sticker, the side rail is in need of some plating and the rear cross section has a bit of a hole. Overall, it will just add some spice to the mix, right? It ***** that it has the air and electrical going through the worst spot, I am sure that will open up a can of worms too. We might have to scratch the side shift for the Hyster off the list. ;)IMG_1716.jpegIMG_1715.jpegIMG_1717.jpegIMG_1714.jpegIMG_1713.jpegIMG_1711.jpegIMG_1712.jpeg
 
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Had to move a truck out of the way to get to the steel I needed for the cradle, took longer than expected, but I have almost everything around to the front. Put the forks back on the BFF, but the main ram is now leaking on the extreme side. I am not touching it until after the bridge crane is home, just too many things to possibly sidetrack me.
 

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Hey Strouty is that the trailer you are going to load a few thousand pounds of bridge crane on? Might be cheaper to rent a flat bed than figure out how to get stuff home after it comes apart. :oops:


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It will be fine...

I definitely underestimated the cradle weight, so I am trying to cut that back a bit. Just the four channel irons I was going to use weigh 500 pounds. I would like to keep it around 750 pounds, going to have to do some weight reduction for sure.
 
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