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Buddy has lock thingies like yours... he uses a prybar to reach under to activate,deactivate... on his welding table... he pushes the prybar in... steps on it... pulls it out.

Missing the top drawer and rear ventilation... I would need a tranquilizer.
 
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It is temporary and much better than what I had before. Basically before was set anything anywhere and hope you can find it later.

I need to label things, but it is looking decent, may have to rework the drawers one more time, I would like to get the lathe tools on one side and all the mill tools on the other, but there are lots of things that cross over, so might just say good enough, at least once it is labeled.

Headed home for the night, at least I feel like I got something done. Tomorrow I have the meeting with the owner of the house behind my shop, fingers crossed that we can come to a decent agreement so I can get rolling on that project.
 

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Great idea on the river nuts. Looks like another tool I need to add to the list. Those casters are similar to the set I had on my Lista. They worked great.


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Shorty, you would have laughed at me, I couldn’t find the tool to set the rivnuts, but I had plenty of the inserts and I knew where they were. I spent a good hour looking for the tool, I had never actually used this one before, I found it in this storage trailer that I got paid to remove and I didn’t even know if it worked. Apparently it does rivets too, luckily it had some of the parts for the inserts, only 1/4 - 20 though, I ordered the die and anvil for 3/8 —16, should be here soon. They are a great tool, but not cheap, Marson makes a less expensive all manual one, but it doesn’t work nearly as well as this manual/hydraulic one. As you saw, I did finally find it, but I felt like an idiot, it was in a drawer labeled specialty tools, I put it back with the rivet tools, so at least I will look there first next time.
 

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The label maker king laughs in your general direction. In my tiny area... there are three areas.

1. RivNuts in an organizer box with a few rivnut manual tools
2. Rivets in a drawer... all labeled in individual bins (about 40 different kinds)
3. Rivet and Rivnut guns

I refuse to label a drawer "Specialty or Misc." I have tried to do that and got myself in trouble. Ask my why I have 3 sets of pin spanners... well don't ask me. I only needed ONE but could never remember they were in the "Specialty tool drawer".
 
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A buddy of mine has some 3 phase breakers, so I am picking that up this morning. Hopefully find enough to plumb my machine shop area.
 

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Shorty, you would have laughed at me, I couldn’t find the tool to set the rivnuts, but I had plenty of the inserts and I knew where they were. I spent a good hour looking for the tool, I had never actually used this one before, I found it in this storage trailer that I got paid to remove and I didn’t even know if it worked.

Whew, I had the same problem this weekend. I needed my conduit bender for 3/4" EMT... I could find my 1" bender and the 1/2" bender..... I looked every where for it a few times.... Then I finally squeezed between the forklift and the small milling machine to get to the back corner of the garage. As I was getting out of that spot, I finally saw it hanging from the Di-acro manual press brake.... Dang, I guess that was where I left it the last time I was using it.... :lol_hitti:lol_hitti
 
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Sounds like the logical place for it.

I met with the owner of the house behind my shop, looks like it is essentially a done deal, just need to finalize a few more details. There is a lot of work that needs to be done and I am overpaying for the property, but it is more of a protection for me than an investment. I do plan on living there, but probably not until next spring. At this point, I have to get the heat going and get the house cleaned out. First order of business will be to clean the yard before the snow hits. Here are a few of the pictures showing the exterior horrors, can’t wait to see what is unearthed fixing things up. I expect to spend around 100k for materials and some labor, but that doesn’t include the sweat equity.


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Buddy has lock thingies like yours... he uses a prybar to reach under to activate,deactivate... on his welding table... he pushes the prybar in... steps on it... pulls it out.

Missing the top drawer and rear ventilation... I would need a tranquilizer.

Pines, I think your issue with the missing drawer is just because no place to put labels, right?:lol_hitti
 

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Strouty, I've seen thousands of houses like that. Every time the wife sees one she says the same thing: "There's a place you can fix up" because ONE time I took her to see a fixeruper in a perfect location.
 
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This one has decent enough bones, but my shop property abuts it and the driveway to the house is on a deeded right of way across the shop property, so it truly would be a walk to work situation. Besides, I am always up for a challenge. :)
 

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Buying that house and fixing it up will have a LOT of return on investment. Not having to travel to your shop will pay you over and over for years. Good job! Looking forward to that build too.
 
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It will be an endeavor for sure.

I figure I will get back at least eight work weeks of my time back (figuring a 40 hour week). Then fuel savings, plus the ambition level should increase by being able to just walk to the shop for an hour when I am bored.

I am excited! :)
 
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I am excited! :)
Strouty, you should be!

When I started working for IBM in 1964 my commute took 4 to 6 hours every day (depending on making or missing a train connection). A move to upstate New York shortened it to an hour a day. The move to Florida turned my commute into a half hour. I broke the string by moving to Australia and having a 2-to 3-hour commute but home was next to the beach so it was worth the time. My last job involved a 4-hour plane ride the first and last day of the week but a 100-yard drive during the week. Now I have a 100-foot walk from the garage to the shop, with some days not even making the trip. Travel time really really ***** so I get why you are excited. Time in the shop is therapy!
 

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I think living there at the shop will drop your anxiety level by 90 points once you get moved in. I had 4properties spread across 90 minutes of travel, and even forgetting a screwdriver or other small item was a big deal. I sold it all and have an 80 foot walk now. Life is much better.
 
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Congrats on the place! You're renting your shop out right now aren't you? At least with the shop being closer you'll be saving a lot of time and forgetting a tool at either location won't be the end of the world.
 

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No matter how bogged down you get revamping that house, you will never regret tying that house to the shop property. The value of both goes up as soon as they are a pair.

My first house had that beveled lap siding. I thought it was going to be a nightmare, but it was easy to work with and using a good oil based primer got 20+ years out of the paint job.
 

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Being within walking distance to shop. Awesome. For cleaning up the property, shouldn’t you get a discount? lol


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My cousin has a 14 yard dump truck and my excavator will make short work of the trash, probably a good load of scrap steel too. TVs and tires will be the PITA $$$ part. No big deal in the grand scheme of things. Inside is not trashed, but the heating system is done, forced hot water and it froze at least once. I found some patches and several splits in the copper lines. With the layout of the baseboards, I don’t even know how you could have anything against a wall, some rooms had more than 10 feet of baseboard. I may investigate other heat sources.
 

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That's great, I didn't realize you'd have it by 2020. I'm sure the next two years will be rough, but being able to pull whatever equipment over to help with the house should make things easier and quicker.
 
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OSB will probably be replaced, GF wants to take the place down to the studs, so I think we will. This way I know exactly what I have and there won’t be any surprises later on. I plan on using roxul for my insulation, it give a tad bit more R value and it doesn’t get moldy or sag.

Being so close to the shop will make the job so much easier for sure!
 

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OSB will probably be replaced, GF wants to take the place down to the studs, so I think we will. This way I know exactly what I have and there won’t be any surprises later on. I plan on using roxul for my insulation, it give a tad bit more R value and it doesn’t get moldy or sag.

Being so close to the shop will make the job so much easier for sure!

Candidly, depending on the wall condition, this is a great plan. It usually cost more to try to save old wall than it does to just out up new and be done.

Unless you really love doing drywall, I see a value in hiring out key portions of the renovation. For the amount that you have to do, hiring a drywall hanger and/or a drywall finisher will be very helpful.

The endless cycles of mudding and sanding and the dust all over can wear on all involved... I know it works on my wife's nerves whenever I have a drywall sanding project... :lol_hitti

For what it's worth, try to have a room completely finished before moving any stuff into it.... While a person wants to get moved in, there is a huge value to being done and not having stuff to work around, cover up, etc..

I'm glad you will be able to get closer to the shop and have a house.
 

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OSB will probably be replaced, GF wants to take the place down to the studs, so I think we will. This way I know exactly what I have and there won’t be any surprises later on. I plan on using roxul for my insulation, it give a tad bit more R value and it doesn’t get moldy or sag.

Being so close to the shop will make the job so much easier for sure!

That will make it easy to install any extra windows you might want.
 

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Go with spray foam, & good windows/doors. That will put you in good shape for a mini split system. Pay now or pay forever.
Cut & fit rigid foam is a great 2nd choice, there are several guy's around selling recycled or seconds for about 1/2 price or less. You want at least 2" in the walls. With your shop out back, (and not to mention your tower business) this might just be your forever home and energy costs never go down.
 
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I was just talking to my brother about this, not sure I can afford the spray foam, but I will check into it for sure. I could probably afford to do two inches of foam, then 4" of roxul.

At this point I am trying to understand how I need to set up the new boiler, it currently has four zones, but I think ultimately it should have seven zones. The basement would have one, the first floor would have two (left and right side of the stairwell), the upstairs would have three (one for each bedroom), then the attic room would get one as well. Is this crazy talk?

Off to research a bit more on them.
 

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Not crazy... cept for the 2 inches of foam with 4" roxul. Consider using foam where it "fits best" and roxul everywhere else. Fits best would be places that would be a pain to stuff with roxul and/or the narrow openings. Foam them maybe.

You can also "foam" the seams where air infiltration is an issue... at the floor, at the ceiling, around door frames, windows...

If I drill a hole to pass a pipe or wire... I foam it, then tape it with metal air duct tape... forgot the official name of the stuff.
 
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