Shorty, you would have laughed at me, I couldn’t find the tool to set the rivnuts, but I had plenty of the inserts and I knew where they were. I spent a good hour looking for the tool, I had never actually used this one before, I found it in this storage trailer that I got paid to remove and I didn’t even know if it worked. Apparently it does rivets too, luckily it had some of the parts for the inserts, only 1/4 - 20 though, I ordered the die and anvil for 3/8 —16, should be here soon. They are a great tool, but not cheap, Marson makes a less expensive all manual one, but it doesn’t work nearly as well as this manual/hydraulic one. As you saw, I did finally find it, but I felt like an idiot, it was in a drawer labeled specialty tools, I put it back with the rivet tools, so at least I will look there first next time.