Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
jakemac
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Here a Burb, there a Burb, everywhere a Burb, Burb. Ol’ man Strouty has a Burb, ee-eye, ee-eye, Ohhh ! [emoji54]
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Made it down to Massachusetts, trailer lights worked, no brakes though. One tire was weird, must have broken belts or something. Any speed between 25 and 40 and it would hop up and down so bad the burb would shake. Figured out the only way to stop it was to go faster or stop really quickly. The trailer doesn’t look very big, I didn’t even think it was that big, at least not until I hooked it up to the burb, then it felt and looked big. GVWR on the tag says a touch over 17k, I can’t imagine the trailer weighing more than 2000 pounds, so somewhere around 7.5 ton carrying capacity. That seems like a lot for single axle, single tire. Next step is to hook up the hydraulics and see if that all works, I am betting it will all work fine.
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I wanted to make it into a trailer to haul forklifts with, but it isn’t as wide as I think I would need. I may be able to modify things, who knows, but I really want a kneeling trailer or whatever they are called.
On a funny note, the trailer hubs stick way out, probably 8”, so it looks like one of those Roman gladiator chariots with the side spikes on the wheels, I bet I could have opened a car up like a can opener would.
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I wanted to make it into a trailer to haul forklifts with, but it isn’t as wide as I think I would need. I may be able to modify things, who knows, but I really want a kneeling trailer or whatever they are called.
On a funny note, the trailer hubs stick way out, probably 8”, so it looks like one of those Roman gladiator chariots with the side spikes on the wheels, I bet I could have opened a car up like a can opener would.
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Can’t figure out the reel trailer, tag says 17,200 GVW, tires are 6600 each, trailer model is a TCR 14, making me think it is good for 14,000 capacity, making the trailer weigh about 3k pounds empty, I guess I could see that, but still, very weird, maybe they could be figuring the extra weight gets transferred to the tongue and onto the rear axle of the truck?
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PelicanPines
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Are you going to use it as a reel trailer... for now or is it destined for a future project thing?
I would deck it and mount a boom. But that's me.
Back read... I don't see it working for a forklift but hey... you have the skills to do it right.
I would deck it and mount a boom. But that's me.
Back read... I don't see it working for a forklift but hey... you have the skills to do it right.
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I need it now, but the reason I want it is that it has no axle or any crossmembers blocking the middle and it has a really high weight capacity. Forklift’s are some of the toughest things to transport, they are usually very heavy and sit low to the ground, this would allow me to move a decent sized one with ease. For now it is a reel trailer and will be used that way, I am hopeful that I can find a dual axle version as it would be more stable.
It should say “go no slower than 40 MPH”
On the way home, a bat hit my radio antenna on the truck, it was alive, but I am pretty sure it was on its way out. I set it in a tree so if it survived it wasn’t on the ground getting attack by anything. Felt bad for the fuzzy little guy.
On the way home, a bat hit my radio antenna on the truck, it was alive, but I am pretty sure it was on its way out. I set it in a tree so if it survived it wasn’t on the ground getting attack by anything. Felt bad for the fuzzy little guy.
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1Garageman
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Bat MOBILE!
LOL (really did!)
Today I am taking delivery of my original burb, no title yet, but he agreed to a larger deposit so I could take charge of it. I would rather it not being driven anymore by him, since I am technically the new owner. I will be able to start the assessment process, should be fun.
Today I am taking delivery of my original burb, no title yet, but he agreed to a larger deposit so I could take charge of it. I would rather it not being driven anymore by him, since I am technically the new owner. I will be able to start the assessment process, should be fun.
So you have:
1) Black Suburban that's your DD?
2) Maroon Suburban
3) Black 2 door Tahoe
4) Suburban frame/body from VA
5) Your original Suburban
What's the end goal? Two fully functional ones or 3? One for daily driving, one for towing, one for if the other ones aren't working?
1) Black Suburban that's your DD?
2) Maroon Suburban
3) Black 2 door Tahoe
4) Suburban frame/body from VA
5) Your original Suburban
What's the end goal? Two fully functional ones or 3? One for daily driving, one for towing, one for if the other ones aren't working?
clmeredith
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Dude, put the checkbook down
Strouty, just came across this today, thought you may find it interesting for your stuff: https://airtow.com/models/rt10-10/ -- tandem axle flatbed trailer, bed stays horizontal, hydraulic raise/lower. No need for ramps or tilt bed. May be too short for ya, but still something to think about?
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Down here all the forklifts get moved by flatbed tow trucks. Not that I am suggesting a new vehicle for your fleet but, you could have picked up the Burb and towed the trailer home one shot.
Clark has a heavy duty flatbed in there fleet.
Any progress on fire truck?
Clark has a heavy duty flatbed in there fleet.
Any progress on fire truck?
Bob Heine
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Zanyad, I just spent way too much time on that site. They have gooseneck models, utility models with sides, enclosed models and a lot more. There's a 16-foot flatbed model with 10K capacity and a 14-foot with 12K capacity. I think you found Strouty's trailer source!
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86turbodsl
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Machinery movers love those things.Strouty, just came across this today, thought you may find it interesting for your stuff: https://airtow.com/models/rt10-10/ -- tandem axle flatbed trailer, bed stays horizontal, hydraulic raise/lower. No need for ramps or tilt bed. May be too short for ya, but still something to think about?
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There is also another suburban that is the interior donor and then the remains (frame and drivetrain) from another suburban, so 7 total.
Plan is to have one “perfect” burb, seasonal use only. Then have a daily driver/work suburban (my original one), then I think I would like to build a nice Yukon. The maroon burb can be sold as soon as my original one is fixed up a bit. I figure I will sell it either this winter or this spring. Other truck parts are just that, parts. I need to set up space to start stockpiling them for future access. I anticipate building more of these over the years, more pristine ones to sell at a premium price point.
Zanyad, that is essentially what I want to use the reel trailer for, except it should be able to handle a lot more weight. I am sure that link is going to lead me down a rabbit hole though.
Pi, no confirmation of specs yet, but if the trans is an Allison 4060 PR, then it is probably going to get brought home. The P would mean PTO and the R would mean retarder (think engine brake). Engine is 430 horse with 1400 ft pounds of torque, should be a nice combination, just a **** ugly truck.
Pi, no confirmation of specs yet, but if the trans is an Allison 4060 PR, then it is probably going to get brought home. The P would mean PTO and the R would mean retarder (think engine brake). Engine is 430 horse with 1400 ft pounds of torque, should be a nice combination, just a **** ugly truck.
1Garageman
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Don't you also still have the firetruck?
Yes, but after a lot of research, the firetruck is going to become parts, Maine is a real horror show when it comes to fire trucks. Of course I am looking at buying another one, this time from Iowa. I think I jumped the gun when I bought the first one, luckily I can use the engine, axles, wheels, and tires. The rest is not as great, probably will use the transmission in the ford F700 crew cab project. In the end, I will break even had I actually bought the parts outright, I may even make a bit extra selling trinkets and scrapping the remaining parts.
This second fire truck has a much larger more powerful engine, bigger automatic transmission, already has a PTO, the rear axles have lockers and they steer. I have already spoken to the fleet manager at the FD that owned the truck as well as the purchasing agent, the only reason the truck was taken out of service had to do with the aerial ladder, there is a twin to the truck still in service, but due to the repair costs, they bought a new truck. It is a much heavier truck, better suited for a crane, I will not be using the fire truck cab at all, this is just for parts as well.
This second fire truck has a much larger more powerful engine, bigger automatic transmission, already has a PTO, the rear axles have lockers and they steer. I have already spoken to the fleet manager at the FD that owned the truck as well as the purchasing agent, the only reason the truck was taken out of service had to do with the aerial ladder, there is a twin to the truck still in service, but due to the repair costs, they bought a new truck. It is a much heavier truck, better suited for a crane, I will not be using the fire truck cab at all, this is just for parts as well.
1Garageman
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^^^ That is a huge awesome firetruck! So then do you have any pics of the crane that will eventually be going on it?
It is just a knuckle boom that would go behind the cab (to be determined later), I am still figuring out things, kind of overwhelming trying to understand what will work with what.
The above truck (aerial) has a fully functioning PTO already, that saves me about $3000 in parts, then the rear steers to compliment the front or you can make it crab (diagonal sideways type motion). Having the locking rears also means I would probably not ever need to make the truck all wheel drive, but I am not taking away that option. It all really comes down to price and time available. This truck has lots of reusable parts and lots of scrap parts if I can't find a buyer. I don't know how much it weighs as it sits, but I would have to guess somewhere around 50k pounds, when I get done it would weigh more like 25k, that will help motivate the truck a bit quicker as well as increase fuel economy. I expect when I have it all loaded with the trailer, it wouldn't weigh more than 50k. Here is a video showing the rear steer in action, probably the best one I have seen.
The above truck (aerial) has a fully functioning PTO already, that saves me about $3000 in parts, then the rear steers to compliment the front or you can make it crab (diagonal sideways type motion). Having the locking rears also means I would probably not ever need to make the truck all wheel drive, but I am not taking away that option. It all really comes down to price and time available. This truck has lots of reusable parts and lots of scrap parts if I can't find a buyer. I don't know how much it weighs as it sits, but I would have to guess somewhere around 50k pounds, when I get done it would weigh more like 25k, that will help motivate the truck a bit quicker as well as increase fuel economy. I expect when I have it all loaded with the trailer, it wouldn't weigh more than 50k. Here is a video showing the rear steer in action, probably the best one I have seen.
So the bigger truck is looking like the clear winner, the company selling it is a dealer, so I can get a temporary plate to get it home, they will allow me to give a deposit and then I can pick it up later in September. Now all we have to do is agree on the final price.
1Garageman
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That is one awesome buy! I wonder if you could even sell some of the parts off of it that you won't be using?
I think that it would take a while, but yes I think the parts that are leftover could be of some good value. I am going to take some truck measurements today, just need to understand how long my wheelbase will be without the advantage of the fire truck cab.
After lunch I have to climb one of our towers to get some specific measurements for a project we are going to be doing. That should be “fun” as I haven’t climbed in a while. At least it is only a couple hundred feet rather than the full 450’.
After lunch I have to climb one of our towers to get some specific measurements for a project we are going to be doing. That should be “fun” as I haven’t climbed in a while. At least it is only a couple hundred feet rather than the full 450’.
My Brother had to reschedule for our tower time, so Monday morning, give me a chance to get back in shape before I climb...... 
I am getting really excited about the fire truck, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of it.
As far as the suburbans, I have decided to take one of the ones I had been using daily (the one that the exhaust fell off and needs glow plugs badly), it has all the parts to make my original "OG-MC" (get it?) burb complete and then some. That will allow me to get the maroon one sold quicker, making space and some cash, two things that are nice to have.
I have been doing a bit of research on what needs to happen to swap the 5.9 cummins in Buck out with the 8.3 cummins in the current fire truck, looks fairly straight forward. Once I get that done, the fire truck can get scrapped out completely (well, we will see what I can really part with).
I am getting really excited about the fire truck, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of it.
As far as the suburbans, I have decided to take one of the ones I had been using daily (the one that the exhaust fell off and needs glow plugs badly), it has all the parts to make my original "OG-MC" (get it?) burb complete and then some. That will allow me to get the maroon one sold quicker, making space and some cash, two things that are nice to have.
I have been doing a bit of research on what needs to happen to swap the 5.9 cummins in Buck out with the 8.3 cummins in the current fire truck, looks fairly straight forward. Once I get that done, the fire truck can get scrapped out completely (well, we will see what I can really part with).
My buddy stopped by with his Prius, apparently it has been throwing codes and messing with the drivability of the car. The codes all revolve around the battery pack, he has done some research and it seems straightforward, so we dug into it. Pulled the battery pack out, removed the cover and the main connections, the pack is made up of lots of small packs, kind of less intimidating once you see inside it. After a check of all the cells, every one of them was 8.10 or 8.11 volts except one that only had 6.82 volts. Found a local guy (on ebay) with used packs, so hopefully we can pick one up rather than waiting for shipping. I will be curious to see what they read for voltage on Sunday when I am back at the shop, can't check tomorrow, have to attend a wedding.
Anyways, looking things over, taking measurements, thinking about my record with trucks, I am convinced that I need to swap the motor in Buck from the fire truck before I buy another fire truck. I feel that if I can manage that in a timely fashion, then I can move forward with the next fire truck, if I can't, well then I don't deserve to buy another one. I don't think either truck will get sold for a while, so I am not concerned about that issue. I think this is a good plan, seems like a legitimate way for me to keep myself in check.
Anyways, looking things over, taking measurements, thinking about my record with trucks, I am convinced that I need to swap the motor in Buck from the fire truck before I buy another fire truck. I feel that if I can manage that in a timely fashion, then I can move forward with the next fire truck, if I can't, well then I don't deserve to buy another one. I don't think either truck will get sold for a while, so I am not concerned about that issue. I think this is a good plan, seems like a legitimate way for me to keep myself in check.
dwysywd
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Bad news... it was clove! Sorry strouty
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xtremek
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I think you have a good plan on the firetruck.
Still researching the other two fire trucks, looks like the salesman was misinformed about the one that was in an accident, he originally told me that the truck was on its side, I did some research and the truck got hit in the rear corner, hard, then was side swiped a bit in the aftermath. That makes me less worried about the engine.
The second larger truck has a few discrepancies, they say engine is 470 HP, it looks like the 12.7 never had that much power offered. The ad says that it has all aluminum wheels, but they are just steel wheels with expensive simulators. It also has the headlight removed for some reason.
The second larger truck has a few discrepancies, they say engine is 470 HP, it looks like the 12.7 never had that much power offered. The ad says that it has all aluminum wheels, but they are just steel wheels with expensive simulators. It also has the headlight removed for some reason.
OccupantRJ
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This is what I use to move Machinery that I buy or sell. A 5500 lb capacity unit rents for around $55 around here.
racer-john
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Excuse me, Strouty, but what is "Buck".
Today is beautiful, except I am stuck waiting to go to a wedding. The things we do for other people, not even a relative, but GF's coworker. My GF also made the cake and cupcakes, this past week has been a horror show as our kitchen is not big enough to do what she has been able to do. At least by tomorrow it will be all over, the kitchen will be back to normal, the house won't be as hot, and my GF might even be a little less psycho.