Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage

[xtremek]

Ok, not trying to be a smart a55 (that comes naturally). Why not just yank the engine out of the marron burb, take that and the white burb to your mechanic, and be done with it. I know you have a mechanic you trust, you've mentioned him a couple of times.

 

[Strouty]

My mechanic will be coming to me to help when I do it. It is easier for him not to tie up his shop and lift. Besides, this is a project I want to do, that makes a lot of difference.

I am going to finish snow cleanup today, we got about 6 inches of light fluffy stuff, at the Hill not sure what the SG got yet. I am still thinking I would like to get some Stak Rack assembled, so I may go over there and plow, then do that.

 

[Strouty]

Just finished lunch, I am at the SG, plowing is done at all locations, still have some shoveling to do at the Hill, not sure I am going to do it today, depends on how I feel. We got about 6” or so of fluffy snow, kind of hard to tell how much, it was blowing all over the place.

 

[Strouty]

Another big storage system popped up on marketplace, I may lowball them and see if they bite. It is the filing system on rails that the cabinets close up and you open them when needed, always thought they would make a great storage setup. Based on the dimensions, it could be setup inside a Conex box. Problem is, I have to remove it and truck it back from Connecticut.

 

[Plastikosmd]

Gonna need a storage system to store storage systems

 

[Strouty]

The only way I will buy this system is if I get it really cheap. It sounds like they need it gone before the end of the month and they have reduced the price multiple times with no takers. Now they are trying to sell smaller sections individually, so it may even be I can make an offer on just what I want, not everything. My guess is taking everything solves a problem for them and I can get things for a lower price.

 

[Chrisb62]

If nothing else you could become a reseller of those systems....... in your spare time of course

 

[lilscorpion]

I can personally attest that you are correct. My visit was like Jake in Wonderland. The only thing missing was a sign outside stating that “You must be this tall to enter this ride”.

 

[lilscorpion]

Yes we are.

Well, I had everything planned, except this.

Oh ****. I’ve had that happen before.

 

[Strouty]

This system is much smaller, it is technically for files, but could be used for about anything.

 

[Strouty]

Well, there is a lot more of it than I thought, the guy listed dimensions very strangely. If he takes my offer, it will be worth the effort for sure, if not it didn't cost anything to make an offer.

There is enough of it so that I could use it in the quonset hut too, I think it would be great to setup under a mezzanine. At some point someone suggested this exact stuff, it is just really expensive to buy, it is a "spacesaver filing system". Basically the shelves can be rolled tight against each other and then you open only the one you want to access, so it essentially eliminates all the aisle space except one aisle. This picture is not the actual stuff, but it is similar. The sellers images are kind of crappy, so this is more representative.

 

[Orionrising]

now you just need to to find one of those sized to store vehicles.

 

[Strouty]

The style that I am looking at seems to be more versatile than the stuff in the pictures. I may be able to make it work with some of the list cabinets. The guy selling it asked me if I could come up on my price, but I told him I couldn’t, so we will see what he says, I suspect I will know today.

 

[mybigwarwagon]

How would you do the floor track?

 

[86turbodsl]

Well, there is a lot more of it than I thought, the guy listed dimensions very strangely. If he takes my offer, it will be worth the effort for sure, if not it didn't cost anything to make an offer.

There is enough of it so that I could use it in the quonset hut too, I think it would be great to setup under a mezzanine. At some point someone suggested this exact stuff, it is just really expensive to buy, it is a "spacesaver filing system". Basically the shelves can be rolled tight against each other and then you open only the one you want to access, so it essentially eliminates all the aisle space except one aisle. This picture is not the actual stuff, but it is similar. The sellers images are kind of crappy, so this is more representative.

Dang i need about 4-5 of those.

 

[Strouty]

I think they usually recess the track, but I am not sure that is required, looks like they usually put flooring around them. The guy accepted my offer, so looks like another whirlwind of activity with no good place to store them. Standard procedure, right???

 

[Strouty]

I may rent a box truck as I think it might be easier, going to talk to the guy soon (I hope), I can't go down there tomorrow, but I can go down there Tuesday, it would be nice to have all the tools I need without having to bring half the shop, so I want to see if he can get some pictures of the track and how they are attached to the floor. I am sure I can buy new tracks, but I bet they won't be cheap. I think he wants them out ASAP, but I know he works on the weekend, so I should be good for Saturday and Sunday.

 

[86turbodsl]

I think they usually recess the track, but I am not sure that is required, looks like they usually put flooring around them. The guy accepted my offer, so looks like another whirlwind of activity with no good place to store them. Standard procedure, right???

Standard for a few of us... lol.

 

[86turbodsl]

Have you ever considered becoming a used equipment dealer? You could basically put your interest in acquiring things to profit...

 

[rvieceli]

Strouty as I recall sometimes those end pieces are not always all metal. they may have a laminate on a high density fiberboard base within a metal framework. If so they may not take kindly to being stored out in the weather.

Ron

 

[Strouty]

I stumble when it comes to selling things.

I would love to do something like that long term, I used to buy and sell things, but there have been too many things going on in the last four years, so it has kind of stopped (the selling part).

These new racks are multi bay, so there is a row of six deep, but they are three shelves wide. Then there are a couple that are only two wide, then there is a section of fixed shelves as well. Should be a couple trips again.

I don’t think I will be using these in the way they are intended to be used, I would to modify the snot out of them and make my upper storage area at the SG be crazy useful. I would have to cut them down a bit height wise, but they are basically a bottom roller system with a shelving unit bolted to them. The company makes larger ones to use with pallet racking, pretty versatile system all around.

 

[Strouty]

Strouty as I recall sometimes those end pieces are not always all metal. they may have a laminate on a high density fiberboard base within a metal framework. If so they may not take kindly to being stored out in the weather.

Ron

Ron, I am pretty sure these are all metal, but I may be wrong, if they are any type of wood, I won't be inclined to buy them, so I need to check into that for sure.

 

[86turbodsl]

I've struggled with selling things too. I'd rather just do an online presence rather than anything in person.

 

[Strouty]

I used to use the auctions for most things, no dealing with idiots, just unload and collect the check.

As for these new shelves, it does appear there could be laminate ends, it also looks like the rails may be a chore to get out, they could be in a grout bed, I need to do a bit more research, I will call the manufacturer tomorrow and see about a normal installation, I will also have to price out the rails, they may not be removable like I want them to be.

 

[walrus]

You want storage up stairs? That would be a pain, can it hold the weight you would put up there?

 

[jack stand]

These shelves will require an accurate mapping of the contents or a hell of a lot of cranking cabinets back and forth will be happening.
BUT that's as close one could get for total utilization of floor space!
I'm going to be very busy whenever you decide to get them.

 

[jakemac]

If they’ll fit in a 20‘ container, you could put it on on the rollback and combine the pick-up with a storage solution.

 

[mybigwarwagon]

SO what will you do if you cannot get the rails out of the floor? Do they make replacements?

I remember working at the hospital and them having a whole floor of those things in one building. I hated having to go there to pull records. The first time took me forever, I was a security guard, not a secretary, but they were short staffed one night, so I had to go. I had n idea how the records were organized. Took me almost an hour to find the chart they wanted.

 

[Strouty]

The shelves, end walls, basically everything has been confirmed to be metal. The seller is the one that bought them, he bought them used from Hollywood, then had them shipped and assembled in Connecticut about 10 years ago. I am sure it was an expensive endeavor.

I agree things would need to be mapped out well, the storage space I was thinking about has mostly collectable things and my vintage video games. This shelving would allow me to add to that storage space substantially. It was built with storing engines and transmissions in mind, so it is framed with 2x12" boards, one foot on center, with two layers of 3/4" engineered subfloor like advantech.

The rails are one possible issue, they are built sturdy enough that I think they will come out even if it has to be by brute force and they still won't get destroyed. I am sure the rails are still available, but I am willing to bet they aren't cheap. So I would be trying to remove the rails so I can reuse them. The fixed shelves are all metal as well and the main components all bolt together, so it should be pretty condensable.

 

[legenddc]

What brand is it? My dad used to sell them. I can see if he knows anything about the ones you got.

The tracks are usually bolted to the floor and have to be perfectly level. Around the tracks it's laminated particleboard to make everything flush.

 

[Strouty]

The brand is “Spacesaver”

 

[legenddc]

Sorry, not the brand he sold/services. Any of those systems should be fairly stout and let you pack in a lot of stuff without the issue of losing much floor space since you only need enough room for 1 aisle unless you've got a lot and then you might want 2. Plus, they're fun to use.

 

[Strouty]

I think the best idea would be for me to build these into a conex and have it be deep storage. I know I only have 8 of the geared mechanisms, so I am sure I will need to do something different for some of it, In theory I could fit about 15 of the units into a conex. Might even be enough room to have some fixed shelves along the opposite wall. They have setups that just have a handle that you have to push or pull to open up the aisle space, but I suspect my cabinets would be pretty heavy.

On a good note, I show up at the Salvage Garage at 10 AM to wait for the delivery (10 to 6 window) and the delivery guy beat me there by about three minutes. I still plan on doing a few things at the SG, I have the heat going, don't want to waste it.

 

[rvieceli]

Oh sure, when I suggest another container, it’s too expensive. Now you’re buying a bunch of stuff and a container to put it in.

Ron

 

[zanyad]

For those watching, I researched sliding shelving a while ago, and found these available:

• NSF shelving on rails at ULINE: https://www.uline.com/BL_3945/Sliding-Storage-Shelves?keywords=Track+Shelving
• Sliding shelves on pallet racking at LevRack: https://www.levrack.com/

I'm sure there are others out there.

 

[Strouty]

Ron, I would be using one of my existing conex boxes, they are still way too expensive to justify when I have two. I really feel I should be able to get my parts storage down to two conex boxes, a 40' trailer, a 30' (I think) trailer, the steel rack (outside), and a setup of pallet racking along the back of the shop. I don't really want much more than that. This means I need to get rid of a 20' box, 24' box, 40' trailer, and the office trailer, all stuffed to the gills with treasures.

 

[Strouty]

Zanyad, those are really cool looking for sure, not really that expensive for the wire racking either. Seeing the second link, I bet these racks will move easily by hand as well, could be a game changer for a few of my storage areas that are kind of hard to deal with.

Technically there are only 8 full dolly setups, but two are 8' wide, and six are 12' wide, I suspect they will be bolt together and I will end up with a total of 22 dollies, but only 8 will have the geared drive mechanism. Hopefully it will be something that can be duplicated, I know it is a chain drive, so I suspect I can my own gear to make things work.

 

[Strouty]

I had to move a bunch of stuff so I could get the Stak Rack hoist out of the way for Guido’s exit, just got that done, now I am trying to figure out what my next step is, I think Benson (the big orange forklift) needs to get pulled outside for the rest of the week. That way I have maximum room to work on getting the Stak Rack setup. I way try and get some for an evening this week, then I could get everything moved at once. I really want to get the hoist thing vertical, that way it takes up a lot less room.

 

[Strouty]

I have to get to the dump today so I can empty the trailer, going to leave off here, but so far a great start, now I have a lot of room for setting things up.

 

[harley jim]

Looks like floor to me, wow