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God Jul!

Does Lars mention the sawzall method in his book?

LQTM... I wondeted if anyone was going to notice that. I think Lars would not be opposed to the sawzall method.

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she was thinking something similar when you finished stage one of the **** shack! lmao

She keeps me in check. I try to make sure I spend time with her and the kid as much as possible, which is why my projects don't come as quickly as some other builds. I figure in about 12 years the kid won't want to hang out with me all that much and I'll be able to get as garage time as I want then.

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With your shop and her room the only issue I see is who is watching the kids?

Great job on the craft room!

The dog of course! Norma Jean keeps a pretty close eye on her most of the time, although, it may be because she's always dropping Cheerios.
 

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Great to see another Iowa boy on here, I am assuming DM and East side from your posts about the restore and getting gas. Have to get together some time. Planning on starting a thread here this spring. Way to many projects in the garage right now. time being shuffled from an AMX to converting a 76 Rabbit from gas to diesel and a mach one on the rotisserie. Non necessarily in that order. Once i can get two of these cars out of the way i have some plans of my own. Most to do with storage and layout. Great thread though keep it up!
 
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bdbecker, love the timber work, it looks a treat..:thumbup:

I'm digging this thread. Great work.

Thanks guys!

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...Way to many projects in the garage right now. time being shuffled from an AMX to converting a 76 Rabbit from gas to diesel and a mach one on the rotisserie. Non necessarily in that order. Once i can get two of these cars out of the way i have some plans of my own. Most to do with storage and layout. Great thread though keep it up!

Sounds like you've got your hands full! There's a few of us Iowa/DSM guys around here.
 
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I finally found time to get some legs on the weld table. Any time I saved making the top I lost on the legs. I mis-measured one of the legs and had to cut a second one (isn't there a saying about that?), welded two of the legs together instead of to the crossbar so I cut it down and had to cut a third leg. That was right about the time I ran out of gas, but at least I thought to pick up a spool of wire when I was at the store because I ran out of that after the first weld on the new tank. But, it's got legs, it's pretty darn square, and about half of the welds are decent so it should hold together fairly well.

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Tucks nicely under the bench.

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I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I'm going to try and put a covered shelf below for the welder and my gear, or just keep it a fab table... time will tell.

And just in case anyone is wondering... yes, my workbench is for work. She got a few battle scars from this project. Luckily for me, PB Blaster and the dirty rag I use to wipe down the top make for an excellent touch-up match for the wood stain I used.

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I just caught up on your thread and like what you've done. I think you and I have the same budget. Fortunately for me, I have parents who like to garage sale and dumpster dive. I'll keep dropping in and seeing if there are any ideas I can scam from you.
 

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Read all 11 pages of the thread this afternoon. A super transformation, a great shop, and many skills of yours in making it all that way!! You have a super place. Quite impressive!

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I just caught up on your thread and like what you've done. I think you and I have the same budget. Fortunately for me, I have parents who like to garage sale and dumpster dive. I'll keep dropping in and seeing if there are any ideas I can scam from you.

One thing I've learned in the last year is that its very important to have a plan/vision when working with limited space on a limited budget. My thought process has shifted the way I think about things when scavenging for materials. I try to no longer look at something and think "Hmm, I could use that for something someday..." and bring it home (although I still fail at this sometimes). I now try to determine if I have an immediate need for it, otherwise I pass. It stinks because I've passed up on some really good stuff over the last months. At the same time, I'm not tripping over "someday" materials anymore, so it makes it easier.

Also, feel free to scam away... most of "my ideas" were borrowed/adapted from things I've seen on this site and the interwebs.

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Great job on the welding/fab table. I like that it's under bench and out of foot traffic when not in use.

Thank you! One of my main goals is flexibility with the space. My interests seem to change with the wind and I want to avoid any "permanent" fixtures or spaces. If I can't avoid a permanent fixture, then I want it to be versatile. As I may have mentioned before, I originally thought that I wanted a dedicated miter saw station with infeed and outfeed tables, but decided against it because I didn't want to dedicate that much square footage to something that might go unused. That was a big motivator in building a 16' long workbench - with minimal prep, the bench can be a miter saw table with lots of room for infeed and outfeed. It is also why I chose to put the bench inline with the man door instead of against the back wall - it makes bringing in long stock very easy.

This approach is not for everyone, but it works for me and my needs.

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To be honest, I'm not sure how i missed this one. Allways good to see what local members are up to.

You're here now! So, I've got this really heavy thing that needs to be moved, do you think you could give me a hand seeing as how you're just down the road? (joking)

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Read all 11 pages of the thread this afternoon. A super transformation, a great shop, and many skills of yours in making it all that way!! You have a super place. Quite impressive!

Best Regards
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Thank you for the kind words Herb!

On the "skills" comment... while I appreciate the compliment, I do have to disagree with you a little. Most of what I've done doesn't require an exceptional level of skill or talent, I just kind of go for it and make it up along the way. I hope that's a bit of encouragement to anyone reading this thread - with a few simple tools and a little bit of patience, you can accomplish quite a bit.
 

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One thing I've learned in the last year is that its very important to have a plan/vision when working with limited space on a limited budget. My thought process has shifted the way I think about things when scavenging for materials. I try to no longer look at something and think "Hmm, I could use that for something someday..." and bring it home (although I still fail at this sometimes). I now try to determine if I have an immediate need for it, otherwise I pass. It stinks because I've passed up on some really good stuff over the last months. At the same time, I'm not tripping over "someday" materials anymore, so it makes it easier.

Also, feel free to scam away... most of "my ideas" were borrowed/adapted from things I've seen on this site and the interwebs.

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Thank you! One of my main goals is flexibility with the space. My interests seem to change with the wind and I want to avoid any "permanent" fixtures or spaces. If I can't avoid a permanent fixture, then I want it to be versatile. As I may have mentioned before, I originally thought that I wanted a dedicated miter saw station with infeed and outfeed tables, but decided against it because I didn't want to dedicate that much square footage to something that might go unused. That was a big motivator in building a 16' long workbench - with minimal prep, the bench can be a miter saw table with lots of room for infeed and outfeed. It is also why I chose to put the bench inline with the man door instead of against the back wall - it makes bringing in long stock very easy.

This approach is not for everyone, but it works for me and my needs.

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You're here now! So, I've got this really heavy thing that needs to be moved, do you think you could give me a hand seeing as how you're just down the road? (joking)

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Thank you for the kind words Herb!

On the "skills" comment... while I appreciate the compliment, I do have to disagree with you a little. Most of what I've done doesn't require an exceptional level of skill or talent, I just kind of go for it and make it up along the way. I hope that's a bit of encouragement to anyone reading this thread - with a few simple tools and a little bit of patience, you can accomplish quite a bit.
Ha anytime man!
 

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One thing I've learned in the last year is that its very important to have a plan/vision when working with limited space on a limited budget. My thought process has shifted the way I think about things when scavenging for materials. I try to no longer look at something and think "Hmm, I could use that for something someday..." and bring it home (although I still fail at this sometimes). I now try to determine if I have an immediate need for it, otherwise I pass.

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Thank you! One of my main goals is flexibility with the space. My interests seem to change with the wind and I want to avoid any "permanent" fixtures or spaces. If I can't avoid a permanent fixture, then I want it to be versatile. As I may have mentioned before, I originally thought that I wanted a dedicated miter saw station with infeed and outfeed tables, but decided against it because I didn't want to dedicate that much square footage to something that might go unused.

This approach is not for everyone, but it works for me and my needs.

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A workshop after my own indecision... I have recently been on a 'Quest' to get as much as possible in my workshop on relevant castors. Over the years as the projects have changed so has the layout. I figure this just makes things easier in the long run.... I have a shocking bare concrete floor (with built in Infinite dust producing Capabilities) So being able to swing everything even when setup means long term I can think of a solution that best fits the budget to sort it out...

As for a plan or vision right now... I'm just following along here and other threads finding some direction hahaha. Keep up the awesome work
 
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Is that whole table made from C-channel? I like it!

Yep, drop pieces of structural channel I picked up for scrap cost, so maybe $10 in material to build the table. My Dad already asked me to get some more so he could build a table, and after seeing it, my brother now wants one too. I half considered bringing them each a pile of channel as a Christmas gift, turns out that probably would have been a hit. I love my family.

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A workshop after my own indecision...

I really like that... pretty much sums it up!

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Nothing crazy over the weekend, just did a good clean up of the shack in preparation for Tuesday night. You know it's cold when you have to warm up your beer before you drink it.

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For reasons that I have long forgotten about since college dynamics/physics/chemistry, when it's really cold, beer can be in a liquid state until the can is opened and then freeze after the fact.

Anyway, back to this upcoming Tuesday... a handful of buddies from church get together a couple times a month for beers. We've been talking about mixing things up a little and decided to do a shop night and make bags (aka ********) sets. Should be a nice change of pace. I'm bringing in the big guns - my shop teacher brother - to help keep an eye on us. Dont worry, we're also going to save the beer for after the saws are put away.
 
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Anyway, back to this upcoming Tuesday... a handful of buddies from church get together a couple times a month for beers. We've been talking about mixing things up a little and decided to do a shop night and make bags (aka ********) sets. Should be a nice change of pace. I'm bringing in the big guns - my shop teacher brother - to help keep an eye on us.



sounds like QGT (quality garage time)
i have a few friends i grew up with we meet couple times a month for the same type of get togethers. Projects, helping one another, talk about faith and family, have a few brews, etc.


Sent from my quanset hut facsimile machine
 
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My current "pile-o-lumber" in the corner of the garage has gotten me by for awhile, but it's not an ideal long term solution. I decided it was time to install something that would be a little more organized. The spot I chose was where the tall, 8' table was. This was a bad idea from the start (too tall and too shallow) but at least I got it out of my system.

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First I needed to prove to myself that the concept was going to work so I made a test piece and clamped it to the wall stud. I'd seen this design around the interwebs but didn't believe it was actually strong enough to support any real weight, but was very surprised that it held my entire bodyweight without any issue at all.

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So I drilled out three 2x4's and sistered them to the building frame. The 2x4's carry all the load in this design, the building frame just keep them in place.

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A little insulation and OSB later, I've now got three shelves for long stock that should hold at least 850lbs each. Unless I start stacking steel on them, I can't physically stack enough wood on them to overload them.

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Step two is sheet and drop storage below. I've got Monday off so hopefully I can tie up the rest of the project yet this weekend.
 
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That pic messed with my eyes. It was the first thing I saw when I opened the page and I thought it was a plywood-floored hallway. Haha, I think I need my eyes/head checked.
 
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Nice Work!

hope you have it all done how you want by the end of the day!

It'll all depend on whether or not Stinkerpot decides to take a nap this afternoon. I say this as she's taking laps around the house chasing the dogs and yelling gibberish. It's actually pretty hilarious...
 
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The kiddo ended up taking a nap which meant I got a couple more hours to finish up the cart. I made the hinge out of some handrail brackets and pipe I picked up at the ReStore for $20. The nice thing about this solution (besides being cheap and strong) is that running the pipe all the way to the floor allows the weight of the cart to be carried on the floor instead of hinging off the wall. It also allows the cart to float up and down on the pipe so the it doesn't bind on the uneven floor.

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I then added a spot for additional drop storage in the space between the cart and the wall.

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Finally, I filled it up and found a bunch of lumber I'd forgotten about.

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I'm pretty pleased with how it all came together. It's nice to be able to see what I have on hand for a change. In case anyone is wondering, I intend to paint the OSB once the temperature warms up this spring.
 

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I thought I knew your shop but I had never seen the hallway.:willy_nil

Why did you use plywood on the floor? Are you going to paint it or just leave it natural?

Aren't you afraid it will be slippery when wet?

Anyway, glad to see you've started insulating!

(wood rack looks good too)
 
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Mid-40's in January? I'll take it!

Started off the day by changing the oil in the Grands (Grand Caravan and Grand Cherokee). The van was due and the Jeep was only 200 miles away, so I figured I'd take advantage of the warm weather and knock both of them out at once.

After that, I got to work converting the tall 2'x8' workbench (that turned into a storage shelf within a few weeks of being built) into a (hopefully) more useful motorcycle workbench.

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The top is 3/4" plywood reinforced by 2x4's every 16" along its length. I plan on making storage shelves/cabinets on each of the framed out spaces on each end. I also need a wheel chock and a ramp, so for now I just threw my mini chopper on there for a visual. The open space in the middle is there so I can used my motorcycle/ATV jack to move the table around. At least that's the plan.
 
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Nice workbench for the bike. Are your steel covered work benches rusty yet from my drool.
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For whatever reason, I have a hard time cutting into a fresh sheet of plywood, especially for a project that is made of scrap/drop/repurposed materials. After sipping a half of a cup of coffee, taking about a dozen measurements, and looking at every piece of lumber in my garage at least twice, it finally dawned on me to use actual shelves for my shelves.

I had four shelves in the steel pile that were too bent to be used for the shelving unit I installed last summer, but would be perfect for this application because they would be supported around their entire perimeter and they were the perfect width. After beating a couple of them halfway close to flat, I got to work modifying them for the motobench.

The first step was cutting them down to the right length.

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Next, I notched the corners.

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Then I did a little work with the poor man's press brake.

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A little flattening with a couple of very rare precision tools.

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Finally, pre-drill holes around the outside and install with screws.

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Flip over and test.

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Right now I put my car ramps, jacks, and jack stands down there, but it'll probably end up being more for motorcycle stuff down the road.
 

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Nice work mate! The shack looks to be coming along pretty well. It's always great to build useful stuff out of offcuts & junk.

I'd like to squeeze in some long stock & sheet stuff storage somewhere too, nice to see some good ideas there.

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