Finallygotit
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OK, I got a pretty good chuckle out of that statement.
Nice job!
Carry on.....
Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT The **** Shack
- Thread starter bdbecker
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Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
OK, I got a pretty good chuckle out of that statement.
Nice job!
Carry on.....
oldironfarmer
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Great job on the shelving! Love seeing surplus pieces put to good use.
Thanks Adam, and welcome to GJ! My brother and his wife actually spent all last summer in your neck of the woods working at the YWAM campus in Lakeside.
I really want to tear into my bike and freshen everything up but I didn't want to do it crouching on the floor. The long term plan is to try and get a good used Handy Lift, but since the timing/funds availability just hasn't lined up yet, this is the next best thing. Long term, even if I do have a lift, I figure this will be useful if I have a project bike in the works and don't want to tie up the lift for months at a time.
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Thanks Clint, your shed is looking good these days as well. Funny you mention the long stock storage because I really considered using your idea of putting a little covered add-on to the back of the garage. Unfortunately, our climate in Iowa is not as mild as what you have there in Rotorua and I worried I would just ruin whatever I stored out there. BTW... beautiful country you have there in Rotorua, although I could never get used to the sulphur (to use your native spelling) smell.
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OK, I got a pretty good chuckle out of that statement.
Nice job!
Carry on.....
That hammer is actually one of a kind. I found it with a broken handle in a trash can at work. The guys are responsible for purchasing their own hand tools, so someone must have broken it and bought a replacement instead of just getting a new handle (tried to find the owner but no one claimed it). The previous owner ground down the head to be a smaller diameter. So much like your quote about Cobras, it actually is a more precise, lightweight hammer!
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Projects like this are why I have a hard time throwing stuff away because I had the perfect solution for the problem in my "inventory". Shelves are easy to keep though - not much storage space required and pretty flexible in how they can be used (sheet metal). Now if I could just figure out how to incorporate that swingarm from a 1979 Yamaha XS650 into a project I would be set.
I picked up a wheel chock and a set of ramp brackets to finish off the motobench this morning... just in time to slip a little bit on a patch of ice on the parking lot and throw my back out. I didn't fall, but the act of catching my balance just tweaked something. Wouldn't you know, I had to wait until 20 minutes after my chiropractor closed down for the day to do this.
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I thought for a minute that I could suffer through and make a little progress today, but when unpacking the wheel chock nearly puts you in tears, it's time to call it quits. So today is all about ice packs in the easy chair, catching up on episodes of Roadkill, Dirt Every Day, and The Grand Tour, and watching Stinkerpot take laps around the house - she started walking this week and is really on the move now!
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I thought for a minute that I could suffer through and make a little progress today, but when unpacking the wheel chock nearly puts you in tears, it's time to call it quits. So today is all about ice packs in the easy chair, catching up on episodes of Roadkill, Dirt Every Day, and The Grand Tour, and watching Stinkerpot take laps around the house - she started walking this week and is really on the move now!
IH8Z28S
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Always good to see a garage go from a mess to a useful space, nice work! Not a lot of Iowa members on here, and they always seem to be a couple hours away from me! I do have a sister in Altoona and a really good friend in Runnells. The Habitat Restore on Euclid is a great place to go, I make sure we stop there whenever we're in Des Moines, bought plenty of stuff there!
I'm very familiar with the Clear Lake area - my grandparents currently have a place in Ventura, but have had a number of places around the lake over the years. My Mom's side is from the Garner/Duncan area, I would not be surprised if you know a few people from my extended family - there are a lot of us in the area.
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Heat always seems to help relax the muscles, but it's almost like the spasms come back worse as soon as I stop. That's the trouble with back issues - there's not really a generic treatment that works for everyone, it's kind of a 'whatever works best for you' type thing.
All I know is that I'm going a little crazy being stuck in this chair.
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In other news, look what my wife spotted at the comic book store in the mall yesterday.
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You may remember Watto from last summer when I fixed his legs and made a stand for him so they could raffle him off at Wife's work.
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Apparently whoever won him didn't really want to keep him around. I guess he had a $600 price tag, which makes him my most expensive project so far.
IH8Z28S
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Good chance I might know a few, originally From Forest City, been working at Winnebago for way to long!
Nothing crazy this weekend in The **** Shack, just focused on doing a little cleaning and other light tasks. I still have a little hitch in my back so I'm trying not to overdo it, but it does help to move around. Earlier in the week I got the wheel chock mounted on the motobench and had a buddy help me roll it up.
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I also got to use my fantastic new broom from Andy (oldironfarmer). It made my day earlier this week when I came home and saw it on my front step.
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Finally, I hung up another section of insulation and am ready to put some more OSB up - hopefully I can find some time for that tomorrow.
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I also got to use my fantastic new broom from Andy (oldironfarmer). It made my day earlier this week when I came home and saw it on my front step.
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Finally, I hung up another section of insulation and am ready to put some more OSB up - hopefully I can find some time for that tomorrow.
Merry Sportsball Day everyone!
I got on some QST today. Wife has been asking for some shelves for the bathroom for awhile now so I figured it was time to check that project off the list. In typical fashion, why not turn some junk into something a little more useful? So I pulled out the fab table and started cutting and welding.
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And after plenty of sparks, some hammer work, and a lot of noise, I ended up with a set of brackets. The boards shown in the pic are just there to give you an idea of what the concept is for the final product.
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I'll post a pic one the paint dries and I get it installed.
I got on some QST today. Wife has been asking for some shelves for the bathroom for awhile now so I figured it was time to check that project off the list. In typical fashion, why not turn some junk into something a little more useful? So I pulled out the fab table and started cutting and welding.
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And after plenty of sparks, some hammer work, and a lot of noise, I ended up with a set of brackets. The boards shown in the pic are just there to give you an idea of what the concept is for the final product.
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I'll post a pic one the paint dries and I get it installed.
And here's the finished product.
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I have to admit, I had a hard time painting the boards white, but stained wood would not match rest of the room. Now that its installed, white was definitely the right choice.
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I have to admit, I had a hard time painting the boards white, but stained wood would not match rest of the room. Now that its installed, white was definitely the right choice.
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chrisBTSC
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I think white was the correct choice. Looks great, good work!
Finallygotit
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Good job! That is really cool. I like the mason jars.
Grumblebum
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The shelf came up a treat. That's a good idea with the jars they can just go for a lap in the dishwasher from time to time.
Will have to show wifey that one.
GB
Will have to show wifey that one.
GB
slammedkustom
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just re-read your thread from the start. really enjoy seeing what you have done to the place. im in a similar situation where what I want and what I can afford are very different things so I kinda make it up as I go along.
its really is amazing what some people throw out and a lot of the time a bit of elbow grease and a lick of paint can turn trash into treasure. it also helps to be in the right place at the right time sometimes.
I agree that sometimes that freebie isn't much help if you don't need it right away but you get a lot of satisfaction out of making something out of free materials. space to work and lack of clutter are also important
anyway enough of me, just wanted to let you know im subscribed and enjoying both what your doing and how your doing it
its really is amazing what some people throw out and a lot of the time a bit of elbow grease and a lick of paint can turn trash into treasure. it also helps to be in the right place at the right time sometimes.
I agree that sometimes that freebie isn't much help if you don't need it right away but you get a lot of satisfaction out of making something out of free materials. space to work and lack of clutter are also important
anyway enough of me, just wanted to let you know im subscribed and enjoying both what your doing and how your doing it
oldironfarmer
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Great job on the shelf!!
As much as I like natural wood, there is something about grain showing in a nicely painted piece that is pure class. Looking good all around!
As much as I like natural wood, there is something about grain showing in a nicely painted piece that is pure class. Looking good all around!
rmalkow2
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Ditto to all above comments. The shelf came out great.
A few weeks ago, a buddy of mine shows me this wood project idea he has and asks how to cut the curved parts. I tell him "on my bandsaw" and offer to give him a hand. Mind you, I haven't touched this saw since I got it a few years ago secondhand (more about that in a minute). I had planned on pulling it out and giving it a test run before he came over, but that was the weekend I hurt my back. So, when he does show up, naturally it's a disaster. The blade won't stay on the pulleys, I can't get any of the guides to adjust right... just a total mess.
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So I dug into the saw this week trying to figure out what is going wrong. Mind you, I have almost no experience with bandsaws outside of using one a few times in shop class. The problem I had was that the blade was tracking on the back half of the top pulley and riding on the front edge of the bottom pulley. When I say front edge, I mean it was off the tire and riding on the metal lip. The top pulley was already adjusted to the max, going any further would cause it to rub against the cover, and going any less would cause the blade to fall off the lower pulley.
This is the point where I should mention the source of the bandsaw - it was a gift from my Dad and Brother! This was actually my brother's saw and when he purged his equipment (Dad and him share shop space and had a bunch of double equipment) I got the saw. Surely my family wouldn't pull a fast one on me and give me a faulty saw. So I call Dad and see what he knows about the saw. He says my brother cut a lot of boards with it and never had an issue. As we're talking, I'm looking at the saw and notice that the mating point between the top and bottom casting look like they are misaligned. A further check with a straight edge confirmed my suspicion - the pulleys, more specifically the axis of the pulleys, were not parallel with each other. My delivery guy (aka Dad) and I must have not been as gentle as we thought.
So I loosened the bolt that holds the two halves together, lined the pulleys up so they were on the same plane, and tightened it back up again. I actually had to repeat the process a few times because I was worried about making too much of and adjustment and going too far. I also replaced the tires while I was at it because one of them was torn and really took the time to setup all the guides and the thrust bearings.
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The end result was a blade that now tracks beautifully down the middle of both pulleys.
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And most importantly, a saw that cuts great without having to worry about the blade falling off.
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All and all, a very valuable experience. I started out knowing very little about my saw. I now know exactly what each screw, bolt, and knob does from top to bottom. I didn't have a manual to look at, and only went online to find tolerances for the guides and thrust bearings. I did this on purpose because I love projects like this. I've found that the best way I learn is by making lots of mistakes.
My buddy is coming over today to finish up the project on my now fully functioning bandsaw!
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So I dug into the saw this week trying to figure out what is going wrong. Mind you, I have almost no experience with bandsaws outside of using one a few times in shop class. The problem I had was that the blade was tracking on the back half of the top pulley and riding on the front edge of the bottom pulley. When I say front edge, I mean it was off the tire and riding on the metal lip. The top pulley was already adjusted to the max, going any further would cause it to rub against the cover, and going any less would cause the blade to fall off the lower pulley.
This is the point where I should mention the source of the bandsaw - it was a gift from my Dad and Brother! This was actually my brother's saw and when he purged his equipment (Dad and him share shop space and had a bunch of double equipment) I got the saw. Surely my family wouldn't pull a fast one on me and give me a faulty saw. So I call Dad and see what he knows about the saw. He says my brother cut a lot of boards with it and never had an issue. As we're talking, I'm looking at the saw and notice that the mating point between the top and bottom casting look like they are misaligned. A further check with a straight edge confirmed my suspicion - the pulleys, more specifically the axis of the pulleys, were not parallel with each other. My delivery guy (aka Dad) and I must have not been as gentle as we thought.
So I loosened the bolt that holds the two halves together, lined the pulleys up so they were on the same plane, and tightened it back up again. I actually had to repeat the process a few times because I was worried about making too much of and adjustment and going too far. I also replaced the tires while I was at it because one of them was torn and really took the time to setup all the guides and the thrust bearings.
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The end result was a blade that now tracks beautifully down the middle of both pulleys.
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And most importantly, a saw that cuts great without having to worry about the blade falling off.
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All and all, a very valuable experience. I started out knowing very little about my saw. I now know exactly what each screw, bolt, and knob does from top to bottom. I didn't have a manual to look at, and only went online to find tolerances for the guides and thrust bearings. I did this on purpose because I love projects like this. I've found that the best way I learn is by making lots of mistakes.
My buddy is coming over today to finish up the project on my now fully functioning bandsaw!
TMcCay
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Nice score on the bandsaw. Looks like it is a Delta unit. The new tires will make it a lot easier for tracking and blade life. Just don't force it to much, or it may kink or break the blade. Enjoy!!
Finallygotit
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Good job!
I love fixer-upper power tools.
I love fixer-upper power tools.
sean Buick 76
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Nice work on the bandsaw!
oldironfarmer
Well-known member
Great work on the bandsaw
Too many people just give up. I sure like your attitude.
A little reminder to people who don't know (basically what you learned)
1 Remove blade and back guides off
2 Make sure axles are parallel
3 Use a straight edge across wheels to make sure they are aligned and not bent, turn both wheels a little and check in several locations
4 Install blade and lightly tension, turning by hand as you tension
5 Once you have the blade tracking in the middle of the wheels with good tension set the thrust bearings a few thousandths off the back of the blade
6 Set the guides in close to the blade just making sure the guides don't interfere with the set of the teeth
The blade should not be touching anything except the tires when there is no cutting going on. I like to hear my thrust bearing spin down when I finish a cut, knowing the blade is not contacting it when not loaded with a cut.
Too many people just give up. I sure like your attitude.
A little reminder to people who don't know (basically what you learned)
1 Remove blade and back guides off
2 Make sure axles are parallel
3 Use a straight edge across wheels to make sure they are aligned and not bent, turn both wheels a little and check in several locations
4 Install blade and lightly tension, turning by hand as you tension
5 Once you have the blade tracking in the middle of the wheels with good tension set the thrust bearings a few thousandths off the back of the blade
6 Set the guides in close to the blade just making sure the guides don't interfere with the set of the teeth
The blade should not be touching anything except the tires when there is no cutting going on. I like to hear my thrust bearing spin down when I finish a cut, knowing the blade is not contacting it when not loaded with a cut.
JackDiddly
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Spent the morning reading through your thread with a cup of coffee (or 3). Nice work. My shop is about the same size and roughly the same condition (the building itself) although there was a new roof put on before I acquired it. My floor is probably worse in spots and I work with the same budget constraints. I have been wanting to start a thread and I just wanted to say thanks for sharing its inspiring to see!
spudley
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You reminded me of a great friend of mine who jokingly used to say "why do it right the first time when you can do it wrong many many times". Good job on what looks like a very nice saw!
Here's the project that inspired the bandsaw tuneup.
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We got it completed just in time for Valentines day (I doubt my buddy's wife is on GJ, so I feel safe posting a pic). He did pretty darn good for his first time using a bandsaw. I know he was getting a little frustrated with me when I would say "let the blade do the cutting, all you have to do is move the material around the blade" but I think he figured it out by the last piece because it turned out really nice. He also got me a six pack of New Belgium Ranger IPA as a thank you - that was completely unexpected, but very much appreciated.
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Yep, its a Delta 14" from the early 2000's. The history of it is kind of interesting. A machinist who spent his entire career working at the Waterloo, IA John Deere factory had purchased a lot of nice woodworking equipment with the thought that, once he retired, he was never mill or turn another piece of metal the rest of his life, and was going to focus solely on woodworking. Not long after he retired, he posted all of his equipment in the classifieds as a package deal for like 1/2 to 1/3 of the amount he had spent on it and my brother bought him out. He was going to buy a mill and a lathe and get back into machining!
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Me too. Unfortunately, the "fixer-upper" part of this tool was probably from my own doing when we unloaded it off the back of my Dad's truck.
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Thanks!
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Thanks Andy. Honestly, for a long time, I was one of those "give up" people. I don't know what it is, but something clicked a few years ago and I realized one day that getting mad or allowing yourself to be frustrated by a problem doesn't help you solve it. I wish I would have learned that when I was in college, I probably would have gotten a lot better grades.
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Thank you, I appreciate it. I was really hesitant to start a build thread too, but I've found that its been great motivation to keep making progress on things. Heck, at first, the only reason I would sweep my floor, clear off my bench, and put my tools away after a project was so that when I took pics for the thread, my space didn't look like a total pit in the background. Now I actually enjoy sweeping up, putting my tools away, and oiling my bench top because of the feeling I get when I walk in the door to a clean and (somewhat) organized space.
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I like that saying a lot! Some days, that is the story of my life.
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We got it completed just in time for Valentines day (I doubt my buddy's wife is on GJ, so I feel safe posting a pic). He did pretty darn good for his first time using a bandsaw. I know he was getting a little frustrated with me when I would say "let the blade do the cutting, all you have to do is move the material around the blade" but I think he figured it out by the last piece because it turned out really nice. He also got me a six pack of New Belgium Ranger IPA as a thank you - that was completely unexpected, but very much appreciated.
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Yep, its a Delta 14" from the early 2000's. The history of it is kind of interesting. A machinist who spent his entire career working at the Waterloo, IA John Deere factory had purchased a lot of nice woodworking equipment with the thought that, once he retired, he was never mill or turn another piece of metal the rest of his life, and was going to focus solely on woodworking. Not long after he retired, he posted all of his equipment in the classifieds as a package deal for like 1/2 to 1/3 of the amount he had spent on it and my brother bought him out. He was going to buy a mill and a lathe and get back into machining!
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Me too. Unfortunately, the "fixer-upper" part of this tool was probably from my own doing when we unloaded it off the back of my Dad's truck.
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Great work on the bandsaw
Too many people just give up. I sure like your attitude.
Thanks Andy. Honestly, for a long time, I was one of those "give up" people. I don't know what it is, but something clicked a few years ago and I realized one day that getting mad or allowing yourself to be frustrated by a problem doesn't help you solve it. I wish I would have learned that when I was in college, I probably would have gotten a lot better grades.
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Thank you, I appreciate it. I was really hesitant to start a build thread too, but I've found that its been great motivation to keep making progress on things. Heck, at first, the only reason I would sweep my floor, clear off my bench, and put my tools away after a project was so that when I took pics for the thread, my space didn't look like a total pit in the background. Now I actually enjoy sweeping up, putting my tools away, and oiling my bench top because of the feeling I get when I walk in the door to a clean and (somewhat) organized space.
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I like that saying a lot! Some days, that is the story of my life.
We went and visited my folks this weekend, so no progress on my garage. I did get a lot of QST with my Dad and brother and figured it would be fun to give a little tour of the shop. I think the garage is around 24x40. Over the years it's come a long way from the dirt floor that used to flood every spring.
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Dad has been working on putting together a nice little machine shop over the last few years, he now has an ENCO mill and a pair of Craftsman/Atlas lathes.
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Here's the tool chest that helped put clothes on our backs and food on the table growing up.
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And here's the view if you take a few steps from the front door of the shop.
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We (dad, brother, and I) spent most of the weekend cleaning up the shop so Dad can start digging into his CJ7 project. It's was a lot of fun.
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Dad has been working on putting together a nice little machine shop over the last few years, he now has an ENCO mill and a pair of Craftsman/Atlas lathes.
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Here's the tool chest that helped put clothes on our backs and food on the table growing up.
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And here's the view if you take a few steps from the front door of the shop.
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We (dad, brother, and I) spent most of the weekend cleaning up the shop so Dad can start digging into his CJ7 project. It's was a lot of fun.
Finallygotit
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Sweet! And on so many levels.
breeaad
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I think we are a lot alike. I also get into the analysis paralysis and tend to get frustrated with problems that I am a lot smart than. Its encouraging to read this thread and see all the progress you are making. Great job!!!
oldironfarmer
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Great to see your dad's shop, thank you!
And a smart view out front, I might add!!
And a smart view out front, I might add!!
Tore into the Sportster this week.
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I might do a separate thread on this project, essentially I'm planning on going through the bike from front to back (or in this case, back to front) and getting her all freshened up and ready for the road again. I am absolutely enjoying the motobench and being able to spread everything out on the workbench.
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I might do a separate thread on this project, essentially I'm planning on going through the bike from front to back (or in this case, back to front) and getting her all freshened up and ready for the road again. I am absolutely enjoying the motobench and being able to spread everything out on the workbench.
oldironfarmer
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You did tear into the bike!
You need to talk your dad out of one of those lathes!!
I vote to keep it on this thread, that way I can follow it. I realize there are just a limited number of threads I can keep up with. Don't know what the appropriate protocol is, however.
You need to talk your dad out of one of those lathes!!
I vote to keep it on this thread, that way I can follow it. I realize there are just a limited number of threads I can keep up with. Don't know what the appropriate protocol is, however.
dwysywd
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Sweet! That's an awesome bike. Always loved V-twins. Had a bunch Ducati
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Sweet! And on so many levels.
I love it there... it's always nice to get away from the city.
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It's always that one detail you overlook when trying to sort out seemingly simple problems! Thank you for the kind words!
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I'm sure I could get the 36" without any issue, but it really needs to be gone through because it's pretty loose. Then there is the matter of where to set it up. I'm going to kick myself for even mentioning this, but I've been reading through the local codes and doing some measuring and have learned that I can add on to the rear of my garage and still be in compliance with setbacks and square footage restrictions. The added space would be perfect for a little machine shop area.
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Thanks! A lot of people dog on Sportsters, but honestly, I really love smaller, lightweight bikes. I've ridden big twins and full dressers, and while they are very comfortable, it's just not the same.
oldironfarmer
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Don't be too hard on the lathe. A lot of good work has been done on worn lathes. Even a good lathe cuts a little less with a bigger cut (feed .030 and cut .029, feed .060 and cut .056 for example). With a worn out lathe you can't hold quite as good tolerances but you can sneak up on what you want and a couple of thousandth's is close enough shims and spacers.
Glad to see you start a machine shop!
Glad to see you start a machine shop!
1/2 Cup
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bdbecker thanks for sharing the pics of your Dads shop, a home away from home by the sounds of it..
Regards
Regards