The vintage Blackhawk Thread

[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

I recently came across this early lock on set, not sure of year but guessing 1930ish

Very nice. What's the socket collar thing in the lower right?

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[Oldtuleguy]

Looks like 1 1/8 deep socket.

 

[r_olson_06]

Looks like 1 1/8 deep socket.

Below the universal joint.

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[Oldtuleguy]

That's a 31/32 socket.

 

[r_olson_06]

That's a 31/32 socket.

Thanks I see it now. The socket next to the drag link was playing vision games with me. That is a very nice set. I have one partial that I have been working on slowly trying to complete.

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[Oldtuleguy]

They are scarce. I was fortunate to find this one. Found a nice points file and a number of lock washers in there as well!

 

[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

I recently came across this early lock on set, not sure of year but guessing 1930ish

Here is my set I have been working on.


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[Oldtuleguy]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Nice. Still have some decal. That little half speeder is awesome. I have the husky version and have used it a couple times.

 

[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Nice. Still have some decal. That little half speeder is awesome. I have the husky version and have used it a couple times.

Never knew husky made a version of that crank speeder. Very nice one day I will hopefully have a complete set but the QD stuff is very hard to come by.

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[twertsy]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Never knew husky made a version of that crank speeder. Very nice one day I will hopefully have a complete set but the QD stuff is very hard to come by.

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Man would I love to see those side-by-side.........

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[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Man would I love to see those side-by-side.........

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I can grab some major dimensions on mine. I know the handles are different.

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[twertsy]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

I can grab some major dimensions on mine. I know the handles are different.

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If possible, major dimensions, circ of head and pic of retaining ball would be awesome.

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[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

If possible, major dimensions, circ of head and pic of retaining ball would be awesome.

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On it.

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[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

If possible, major dimensions, circ of head and pic of retaining ball would be awesome.

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Here are the dimensions.


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[twertsy]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Here are the dimensions.


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Nice, thanks!

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[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Nice, thanks!

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Sorry for the upside down picture. My phone is not cooperating lately with that for some reason.

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[twertsy]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Sorry for the upside down picture. My phone is not cooperating lately with that for some reason.

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Yeah, I think the new tapatalk doesn't like portrait.....

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[r_olson_06]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

Yeah, I think the new tapatalk doesn't like portrait.....

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Thanks for heads up. I will try landscape next time see if that solves it.

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[Oldtuleguy]

I will post some more pics of speeder later. I think blackhawk licensed it from husky or maybe visa versa. Came in this early husky set, ca.1924?

 

[r_olson_06]

I will post some more pics of speeder later. I think blackhawk licensed it from husky or maybe visa versa. Came in this early husky set, ca.1924?

Mine has a patent on the crank and a date of 1926.

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[twertsy]

I will post some more pics of speeder later. I think blackhawk licensed it from husky or maybe visa versa. Came in this early husky set, ca.1924?

That is a Damn cool set! Interesting that it's hex drive......throws a wrinkle into a theory of mine a bit...

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[Oldtuleguy]

This one is the same as the one in the 1924 husky ad.

 

[twertsy]

Mine has a patent on the crank and a date of 1926.

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Should be the patent for the handle right?

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[Oldtuleguy]

It does have a 1/2 square drive adapter in the set

 

[r_olson_06]

Should be the patent for the handle right?

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It is on the handle no Pat number just a date of Feb 23 1926.

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[r_olson_06]

That is a Damn cool set! Interesting that it's hex drive......throws a wrinkle into a theory of mine a bit...

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This one is the same as the one in the 1924 husky ad.

Isn't that 9/16 hex? Same as the husky no 1 ratchet?

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[Oldtuleguy]

I have not measured it, but should be. Here is a comparative pic of husky ratchet from set with a snap on no. 7.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Re: 1930ish? Lock on set

...the QD stuff is very hard to come by.

Indeed. And, unlike other Mfgrs, I hardly ever see Blackhawk Q.D. era stuff in onesy-twosies at flea markets. A few D- series socket here and there. And much older Indian head logo sockets here and there. I never see an orphan Q.D. era handle or extension. I have had a 32-CD set and an 18-A set, and both of them I found complete. I have always thought of that as a testament to its quality. The former owners kept them forever and only when they died did they pass on to someone else more or less intact.

BTW, they dropped the crank handle sometime after 1926 and before 1930, around the same time they added double-hex sockets. It wasn't in any of the "D" (double-hex) era sets.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Ok, checked it is 9/16 drive, says pat pending on head.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I believe blackhawk did patent that crimped on handle design...

 

[Private Lugnutz]

If you mean the pressed steel rotating grip, definitely. EDIT: To be more technically precise, assigned to American Grinder. Patent 1,574,136. Filed in 1922 and found on tools long before it was granted.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yes. The one box I have with that handle has a pat number on the handle.

 

[r_olson_06]

I will post some more pics of speeder later. I think blackhawk licensed it from husky or maybe visa versa. Came in this early husky set, ca.1924?

What do the sides of them husky sockets look like?

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[Oldtuleguy]

Here is a pic I took of one with a snap on socket. Also has husky hex ujoint above snap on ujoint

 

[r_olson_06]

Here is a pic I took of one with a snap on socket

My bad missed that.

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[Oldtuleguy]

That's ok I am told I miss stuff all the time (mostly by old lady!)

 

[Private Lugnutz]

r_olson_06: Roy - You need to clear some PM space. Trying to reply to your last PM to me but I can't.

 

[B17E1943]

I would grab that jack in an instant. It would go so well with my floorjack collection

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[twertsy]

Saw this on eBay and made an offer. Didn't realize they made one with wood handles! I can only assume the Patent Pending refers to the lock-on feature.

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[d42jeep]

I would guess that those Lutz style handles were an add on. They were added to a huge variety of tools.
-Don